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Which aspect of Victoria 3 are you enjoying the most?

Overall economic development. (Lines go up!)
13
23%
Economic specialization. (For instances where you can't have it all.)
2
4%
Economic "warfare". (Yes, yes, join my customs union, my pretties, yes, ALL of you!)
6
11%
Micro-free warfare. (Lines move forward!)
3
5%
"Small-time" nation viability (Hold the line!)
1
2%
Internal political maneuvering. (No, PB, you can't have an ethno-state, stop asking.)
1
2%
Political customization (Theocratic Canada was always a thing. And we have elections, too!)
7
13%
Playing the diplo plays game. (You really want to fight this hard over Estonia, Russia? Thank you, that's what I thought.)
2
4%
Exploiting the natives. (I'm there to help them, I swear.)
4
7%
I'm just glad this game is 10 times more functional than V2.
17
30%
 
Total votes : 56

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:03 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im a happy boy.

But does it blend?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:15 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im a happy boy.

But does it blend?

I will make it blend.
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Postby Bralia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:04 am

So in my own Stellaris run, I discovered what happens if you challenge the Sentinels. Since its still relatively new, spoilered:

Not only was my army of almost 3000 near totally wiped, the aftermath is almost equally brutal. When you go on the attack, you really commit to being the bad guy. Naturally, I took the Militarist which gave me some token benefits for the planet. Sadly, not quite as good as having the Sentinels as allies.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:24 am

My Novgorod game has been extremely lucky so far.

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Livonian Order is my vassal.

Uzbek, Nogai, Kazan, and Crimea formed an uberalliance super early on and thrashed Muscovy every fifteen years or so, which made them easy pickings for me. Poland had a real rough time for awhile which ended up with me supporting Lithuania's independence, making them a really bloody powerful ally in East Europe. Eventually the Uzbek-Nogai-Kazan-Crimea axis broke down and went to war with each other (Kazan and Uzbek vs Nogai and Crimea); Kazan lost, which led to me almost immediately annexing half of them. At some point Uzbek got replaced with Bakhara.

by far the most difficult war so far was the Karelian War, which was between myself (and my march Livonia alongiside Lithuania) against the whole of the Kalmar Union, including some random Irish duchies that Denmark somehow has vassalized. It was brutal and bloody, but eventually our sheer manpower won and I managed to get minor concessions from the Scandinavians.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:48 am

Back when I last played EU4 or V2 this was impossible so I want to know if it changed. TLDR is it possible as an European power to ally with a native power in Africa like the Zulu and than keep them safe from Europeans whilst husbanding them into being some sort of vassal superpower of the black continent?
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:50 am

Purpelia wrote:Back when I last played EU4 or V2 this was impossible so I want to know if it changed. TLDR is it possible as an European power to ally with a native power in Africa like the Zulu and than keep them safe from Europeans whilst husbanding them into being some sort of vassal superpower of the black continent?


ez pz in eu4 if you count north Africa. Tunis is a powerhouse in the beginning and Mamluks are a GP on day 1.

Not really possible in vic2. But there's a whole subplot of DH Communist Germany that involves just that, turning Ethiopia into the "People's Republic of Africa" and growing them to include the entirety of the continent.
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Postby Bralia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:59 am

Cisairse wrote:My Novgorod game has been extremely lucky so far.

(Image)

Livonian Order is my vassal.

Uzbek, Nogai, Kazan, and Crimea formed an uberalliance super early on and thrashed Muscovy every fifteen years or so, which made them easy pickings for me. Poland had a real rough time for awhile which ended up with me supporting Lithuania's independence, making them a really bloody powerful ally in East Europe. Eventually the Uzbek-Nogai-Kazan-Crimea axis broke down and went to war with each other (Kazan and Uzbek vs Nogai and Crimea); Kazan lost, which led to me almost immediately annexing half of them. At some point Uzbek got replaced with Bakhara.

by far the most difficult war so far was the Karelian War, which was between myself (and my march Livonia alongiside Lithuania) against the whole of the Kalmar Union, including some random Irish duchies that Denmark somehow has vassalized. It was brutal and bloody, but eventually our sheer manpower won and I managed to get minor concessions from the Scandinavians.

You . . . actually survived? I gotta admit, when I saw you say you were going to play Novgorod, I entirely expected you to just insta-die. What in the world saved you in the early game? I've always known Muscovy to be extremely aggressive towards Novgorod, almost as aggressive as a human player.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:03 am

Bralia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:My Novgorod game has been extremely lucky so far.

(Image)

Livonian Order is my vassal.

Uzbek, Nogai, Kazan, and Crimea formed an uberalliance super early on and thrashed Muscovy every fifteen years or so, which made them easy pickings for me. Poland had a real rough time for awhile which ended up with me supporting Lithuania's independence, making them a really bloody powerful ally in East Europe. Eventually the Uzbek-Nogai-Kazan-Crimea axis broke down and went to war with each other (Kazan and Uzbek vs Nogai and Crimea); Kazan lost, which led to me almost immediately annexing half of them. At some point Uzbek got replaced with Bakhara.

by far the most difficult war so far was the Karelian War, which was between myself (and my march Livonia alongiside Lithuania) against the whole of the Kalmar Union, including some random Irish duchies that Denmark somehow has vassalized. It was brutal and bloody, but eventually our sheer manpower won and I managed to get minor concessions from the Scandinavians.

You . . . actually survived? I gotta admit, when I saw you say you were going to play Novgorod, I entirely expected you to just insta-die. What in the world saved you in the early game? I've always known Muscovy to be extremely aggressive towards Novgorod, almost as aggressive as a human player.


Yeah I'm baffled as well. My survival was really pure luck; I made some good alliances and strategic fort-building, but realistically the fact that Muscovy got dogpiled by basically all of its neighbors starting in the 1460s was what saved me.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:15 am

There are 9 robotic pops in my empire. Opposed to hundreds of organic pops.

Somehow they took over 8 of my planets.

Well time to get disassembling.

omg they demolished every single fucking building on all the planets. My economy is dead.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:22 am

Man, I really want to try Stellaris, EUIV, HOI4, and even Imperator but unlike CKII it looks like these games are still dishing out DLC and I don't want to buy any of them until all the DLC is out. I'd rather just buy it all at once so I don't have to worry about my save games being rendered obsolete every month.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:28 am

I was in the middle of colonising a planet that has no pops on it of any type. The machine rebellion, somehow took over this planet in the middle of colonisation (it was not being colonised by robots) and then the colonisation was cancelled and the planet became uninhabited.


Explain pls.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:31 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:Man, I really want to try Stellaris, EUIV, HOI4, and even Imperator but unlike CKII it looks like these games are still dishing out DLC and I don't want to buy any of them until all the DLC is out. I'd rather just buy it all at once so I don't have to worry about my save games being rendered obsolete every month.


...you'd rather spend $400 on a game than just buying the base game?

Besides your save games will be fine, you can freeze updates for any modern paradox game.


Alternatively, just play vic2 and DH.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:32 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:Man, I really want to try Stellaris, EUIV, HOI4, and even Imperator but unlike CKII it looks like these games are still dishing out DLC and I don't want to buy any of them until all the DLC is out. I'd rather just buy it all at once so I don't have to worry about my save games being rendered obsolete every month.

Your best bet is to wait for a steam sale then and hope the DLC gets cut enough in price. And then it will still probably cost you a good bit.

if you want to, ask about the dlc for each game on here and see what the general opinion is of them and look at the dlc details on each games wiki, might help you make a decision.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:05 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:Man, I really want to try Stellaris, EUIV, HOI4, and even Imperator but unlike CKII it looks like these games are still dishing out DLC and I don't want to buy any of them until all the DLC is out. I'd rather just buy it all at once so I don't have to worry about my save games being rendered obsolete every month.

It'll be years before these games stop updating, so if your concern is saves breaking then I'd suggest just buying the games next sale and turning off automatic updates.

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Postby Licana » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:29 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was in the middle of colonising a planet that has no pops on it of any type. The machine rebellion, somehow took over this planet in the middle of colonisation (it was not being colonised by robots) and then the colonisation was cancelled and the planet became uninhabited.


Explain pls.

stop using synths with non-citizen rights.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:17 pm

Licana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was in the middle of colonising a planet that has no pops on it of any type. The machine rebellion, somehow took over this planet in the middle of colonisation (it was not being colonised by robots) and then the colonisation was cancelled and the planet became uninhabited.


Explain pls.

stop using synths with non-citizen rights.

I had not even researched Synths so i guess some of them migrated in.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:48 pm

Doing a Space Communist run in Stellaris, probably maybe might be my first completed campaign, who knows? Anyway, I've been starting to feel as though my little corner of the galaxy is no longer adequate to house the glorious galactic communes.

The annoying part being there's only powerful empires with good relations and compatible ethics between me and the bad guys who would also be easier to merc. Oh well, Time to go kill some spiritualists, I guess.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:44 pm

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Impaled Nazarene wrote:You're telling me the content packs aka the shit ck2 peddles on us is actually dlc and not useless aesthetic shit?

Well you do download it, and it is content. And even if you are not looking for aesthetics like music and troop sprites, they do contain mission trees, and the Magna Graecia content pack even allows ruler deification. I however would rather these things be put in the base game, TBF. Fortunately Punic Wars is free I guess.

Also, Chesronesus game complete Pics and annecdotes inside.

Ok, can confirm the Punic Wars pack makes Carthage not terribly boring at the start of the game. I still need to learn how to play.
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Postby Cisairse » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:03 pm

imagine facing widespread criticism for releasing a barebones game with no content and then immediately releasing paid DLC to make the game not totally shallow

Imperator is really a disappointment
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remember, no novgorodan
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:12 pm

Cisairse wrote:(Image)

remember, no novgorodan

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lithuania did a whoopsie
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:15 pm

Cisairse wrote:imagine facing widespread criticism for releasing a barebones game with no content and then immediately releasing paid DLC to make the game not totally shallow

Imperator is really a disappointment

Well now I just feel stupid for actually liking the game. Am I? Please let me know.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:59 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Cisairse wrote:imagine facing widespread criticism for releasing a barebones game with no content and then immediately releasing paid DLC to make the game not totally shallow

Imperator is really a disappointment

Well now I just feel stupid for actually liking the game. Am I? Please let me know.

With all the patches that have gone through the game it's honestly really good now. Sure it's launch was a piece of shit but I remember the launch version of Vicky 2.

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