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Which aspect of Victoria 3 are you enjoying the most?

Overall economic development. (Lines go up!)
13
23%
Economic specialization. (For instances where you can't have it all.)
2
4%
Economic "warfare". (Yes, yes, join my customs union, my pretties, yes, ALL of you!)
6
11%
Micro-free warfare. (Lines move forward!)
3
5%
"Small-time" nation viability (Hold the line!)
1
2%
Internal political maneuvering. (No, PB, you can't have an ethno-state, stop asking.)
1
2%
Political customization (Theocratic Canada was always a thing. And we have elections, too!)
7
13%
Playing the diplo plays game. (You really want to fight this hard over Estonia, Russia? Thank you, that's what I thought.)
2
4%
Exploiting the natives. (I'm there to help them, I swear.)
4
7%
I'm just glad this game is 10 times more functional than V2.
17
30%
 
Total votes : 56

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Postby Abserdia » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:18 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
What game?


I had EU4 in mind, but maybe vic2? Not a ww2 game, I'm tired of those.

Can't speak for EU4.
Either would work in Vic2. Russia has the immediate advantage but a player Japan can overtake Russia in the mid-late game.
China often gets placed into the American SoI, so that might end up being a problem. I think Japan is more likely to win an American war than Russia.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:55 pm

Two machine uprisings and another federation declared war. Right, time for the Neutron Sweep.


edit: another machine uprising, this time in one of my enemies, so thats good. Fuckers and their damn robots. If you are gona have them give them rights.
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Postby Serrus » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:57 pm


This makes Lithoid void dwellers even more broken. I love it.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:59 pm

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:35 pm

So all the wars are over bar one. Ive been stuck in a war now for 10 years that my ally wont end, the enemy machine empire is down to one system, none of us can get to because the empire between has closed borders. They have nothing whatsoever to fight us, have no way of attacking us, and their exhaustion is at 100%, just end the fucking war.

END THE GOD DAMN WAR I HAVE VASSALS TO MAKE, ITS CRIPPLING MY GOD DAMN ECONOMY.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:27 pm

My new hobby is attacking a neighboring Space Empire, capturing its home-world and then turning all of its population into food, thus decimating the entire population of a species in a matter of a ten or so years, then letting the other colonized planets of that species remain as a uniquely reduced Empire while I flaunt their former homeworld just across the border. Have done it to three of the other five Space Empires in my current run.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:48 pm

I'm going to try eu4 Novgorod -> Russia, with my main goal being to annex at least northern China. Wish me luck gents.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:59 pm

Cisairse wrote:I'm going to try eu4 Novgorod -> Russia, with my main goal being to annex at least northern China. Wish me luck gents.


DON'T FORGET THE STOLICHNAYA, COMRADE

I'm almost there, I plan on obtaining the Mandate if I can XD

Of course, that was after following people's advice, allying with the Mughals, and siccing them on the Ottomans.

Over 500k souls died in their war of aggression, the Ottoman Conquest of Glisyanka... Glisyanka? Gurbanguly? Some weird fucking province XD

Although I'm sweating now because the Mughals are collapsing under rebellion
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:21 pm

North German Realm wrote:My new hobby is attacking a neighboring Space Empire, capturing its home-world and then turning all of its population into food, thus decimating the entire population of a species in a matter of a ten or so years, then letting the other colonized planets of that species remain as a uniquely reduced Empire while I flaunt their former homeworld just across the border. Have done it to three of the other five Space Empires in my current run.


I always turn into Space Prussia whenever I play Stellaris.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:32 am

Wow the mission trees for those who are not Rome make warfare a pain in the ass.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:14 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Wow the mission trees for those who are not Rome make warfare a pain in the ass.

What game are we talking about here? I'm assuming Imperator since it's the only game with mission trees where Rome isn't an endgame goal. With that out of the way, here's my two cents. Hopefull I'm not talking about the wrong game.

Countries with unique mission trees are currently Rome, Carthage, Athens, Sparta, Syracruse, Italiote Greeks, West European Greeks, Black Sea Greeks, and Republican Greeks. Any other country is stuck with the generic mission trees that are either for conquering a certain region, or developing a certain region. Now, the only unique mission trees I've explored were the one for the Black Sea Greeks in my Chersonesus game, the one for the Republican Greeks to form the Hellenic League (became applicable since I was a Hellenic Republic with land in the Greece region) in the same game, and the Italiote Greeks' mission tree to form Magna Graecia in a quick game as one of the Italiote city-states. And I can agree that expansion is a bit hard. Because of what I think is the infinite well of claims that is Roman missions, the expand frighteningly fast. In games where Rome gets squahsed, whatever power that took their place (assuming it isn't Carthage, IIRC they get infinite claims too) expands noticeably slower. I'll share screenshots of Etruria in my Qataba game and Rome in my Chersonesus game to prove this.

Etruria in my Qataba game

Rome in my Chesronesus game
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:25 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Wow the mission trees for those who are not Rome make warfare a pain in the ass.

What game are we talking about here? I'm assuming Imperator since it's the only game with mission trees where Rome isn't an endgame goal. With that out of the way, here's my two cents. Hopefull I'm not talking about the wrong game.

Countries with unique mission trees are currently Rome, Carthage, Athens, Sparta, Syracruse, Italiote Greeks, West European Greeks, Black Sea Greeks, and Republican Greeks. Any other country is stuck with the generic mission trees that are either for conquering a certain region, or developing a certain region. Now, the only unique mission trees I've explored were the one for the Black Sea Greeks in my Chersonesus game, the one for the Republican Greeks to form the Hellenic League (became applicable since I was a Hellenic Republic with land in the Greece region) in the same game, and the Italiote Greeks' mission tree to form Magna Graecia in a quick game as one of the Italiote city-states. And I can agree that expansion is a bit hard. Because of what I think is the infinite well of claims that is Roman missions, the expand frighteningly fast. In games where Rome gets squahsed, whatever power that took their place (assuming it isn't Carthage, IIRC they get infinite claims too) expands noticeably slower. I'll share screenshots of Etruria in my Qataba game and Rome in my Chersonesus game to prove this.

Etruria in my Qataba game

Rome in my Chesronesus game

Carthage gets infinite claims? So its just their first tree that fucking sucks?
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:31 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:What game are we talking about here? I'm assuming Imperator since it's the only game with mission trees where Rome isn't an endgame goal. With that out of the way, here's my two cents. Hopefull I'm not talking about the wrong game.

Countries with unique mission trees are currently Rome, Carthage, Athens, Sparta, Syracruse, Italiote Greeks, West European Greeks, Black Sea Greeks, and Republican Greeks. Any other country is stuck with the generic mission trees that are either for conquering a certain region, or developing a certain region. Now, the only unique mission trees I've explored were the one for the Black Sea Greeks in my Chersonesus game, the one for the Republican Greeks to form the Hellenic League (became applicable since I was a Hellenic Republic with land in the Greece region) in the same game, and the Italiote Greeks' mission tree to form Magna Graecia in a quick game as one of the Italiote city-states. And I can agree that expansion is a bit hard. Because of what I think is the infinite well of claims that is Roman missions, the expand frighteningly fast. In games where Rome gets squahsed, whatever power that took their place (assuming it isn't Carthage, IIRC they get infinite claims too) expands noticeably slower. I'll share screenshots of Etruria in my Qataba game and Rome in my Chersonesus game to prove this.

Etruria in my Qataba game

Rome in my Chesronesus game

Carthage gets infinite claims? So its just their first tree that fucking sucks?

Well reading the Punic Wars DLC description states that Carthage has 10 unique mission trees to its name. And if those missions are anything like Rome's, then I'd assume Carthage would also get infinite claims.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:52 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Carthage gets infinite claims? So its just their first tree that fucking sucks?

Well reading the Punic Wars DLC description states that Carthage has 10 unique mission trees to its name. And if those missions are anything like Rome's, then I'd assume Carthage would also get infinite claims.

Wait, there's DLC for Imperator?
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Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."

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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:49 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:Well reading the Punic Wars DLC description states that Carthage has 10 unique mission trees to its name. And if those missions are anything like Rome's, then I'd assume Carthage would also get infinite claims.

Wait, there's DLC for Imperator?

Go check out the Steam page. DLC is listed.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:53 am

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:55 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Wait, there's DLC for Imperator?

Go check out the Steam page. DLC is listed.

You're telling me the content packs aka the shit ck2 peddles on us is actually dlc and not useless aesthetic shit?
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Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."


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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:04 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:Go check out the Steam page. DLC is listed.

You're telling me the content packs aka the shit ck2 peddles on us is actually dlc and not useless aesthetic shit?

Well you do download it, and it is content. And even if you are not looking for aesthetics like music and troop sprites, they do contain mission trees, and the Magna Graecia content pack even allows ruler deification. I however would rather these things be put in the base game, TBF. Fortunately Punic Wars is free I guess.

Also, Chesronesus game complete Pics and annecdotes inside.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:33 am

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:39 am

My ally is actually pissing me off with this war. Its been going on now for 26 fucking years and they wont end it, they are actually waiting till we get to 100 war exhaustion, and then its like 20 months for an auto peace.

Now the empire the machines rebelled against have occupied their last system, but they didnt bring an army. The last machine planet has a garrison of 0. LAND ONE CAT AND YOU TAKE THE PLANET. MOVE A SINGLE TRANSPORT AND YOU CAN END THIS.
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Postby Bralia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:27 am

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:39 am


It seems the only real way to get some admin cap upgrades is doing the same tech over and over and over again, and it gives like 15 at a time

i just kind of gave up lol

I did get it down to about 740 odds
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Postby Licana » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:48 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Bralia wrote:Huskar, you know that empire sprawl is something you can manage now, right?

It seems the only real way to get some admin cap upgrades is doing the same tech over and over and over again, and it gives like 15 at a time

i just kind of gave up lol

I did get it down to about 740 odds

bureaucrats man, bureaucrats give admin cap.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:50 am

Licana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:It seems the only real way to get some admin cap upgrades is doing the same tech over and over and over again, and it gives like 15 at a time

i just kind of gave up lol

I did get it down to about 740 odds

bureaucrats man, bureaucrats give admin cap.

Fuck i genuinely forgot about them, need to build some more of their buildings.
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