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Europa Universalis
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Victoria
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Crusader Kings
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Hearts of Iron
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:57 am

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Bralia wrote:Did not expect an ultra-long stream, I actually have to go now. Victoria 3 is actually looking super chill. I was worried about things to do on a tick by tick and day by day basis, but I think it feels kinda okay. There definitely seems to always be something to worry about economically. I do wish there were way more events, though, V3 is looking extremely barren when it comes to national happenings.

And that's weird because PDX has never released a barren unfun boring game before. Probably just a boring playthrough of it.


CK3 on release was a very barren game imho.
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Postby Imperium of Texas » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:02 pm

Should I play Texas as my First Nation in Victoria 2? I am quite Patriotic when comes to my home state but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea though since I haven’t even played the game yet.
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Postby Wallowis » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:04 pm

Imperium of Texas wrote:Should I play Texas as my First Nation in Victoria 2? I am quite Patriotic when comes to my home state, not sure if it’s a good idea though since I haven’t even played the game yet.

Imo trial and error, even if brutal, is the best way to learn. Just play a dirt poor, hard country over and over, die over and over again until you don't die.

That's definitely why I lost agains Poland as the USSR in hoi4 guys it was totally deliberate trust me
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:10 pm

Imperium of Texas wrote:Should I play Texas as my First Nation in Victoria 2? I am quite Patriotic when comes to my home state but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea though since I haven’t even played the game yet.

No. They get slapped and are at war. I suggest playing the US, ottomans, or The Empire for beginners, but I also suggest getting HBM and HFM, which add more nations and not on steam workshop.
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Postby Deblar » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:14 pm

Imperium of Texas wrote:Should I play Texas as my First Nation in Victoria 2? I am quite Patriotic when comes to my home state but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea though since I haven’t even played the game yet.

Dew it.

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Postby Imperium of Texas » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:21 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:
Imperium of Texas wrote:Should I play Texas as my First Nation in Victoria 2? I am quite Patriotic when comes to my home state but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea though since I haven’t even played the game yet.

No. They get slapped and are at war. I suggest playing the US, ottomans, or The Empire for beginners, but I also suggest getting HBM and HFM, which add more nations and not on steam workshop.

By “The Empire” are you referring to the British Empire? The French Empire? The German Empire? The Austrian Empire? The Russian Empire? The Spanish Empire? The Japanese Empire? Maybe, Portugal? Sweden? China? Italy?
There’s a lot of Empires at the time of 1836 and onward.
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:24 pm

Imperium of Texas wrote:
Free Ravensburg wrote:No. They get slapped and are at war. I suggest playing the US, ottomans, or The Empire for beginners, but I also suggest getting HBM and HFM, which add more nations and not on steam workshop.

By “The Empire” are you referring to the British Empire? The French Empire? The German Empire? The Austrian Empire? The Russian Empire? The Spanish Empire? The Japanese Empire? Maybe, Portugal? Sweden? China? Italy?
There’s a lot of Empires at the time of 1836.

Galactic.

But yeah, the British empire + German empire didn’t exist at that time
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Postby Imperium of Texas » Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:41 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:
Imperium of Texas wrote:By “The Empire” are you referring to the British Empire? The French Empire? The German Empire? The Austrian Empire? The Russian Empire? The Spanish Empire? The Japanese Empire? Maybe, Portugal? Sweden? China? Italy?
There’s a lot of Empires at the time of 1836.

Galactic.

But yeah, the British empire + German empire didn’t exist at that time

You’re Correct, the German empire didn’t exist yet, but Prussia did, and Prussia became the German Empire.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:08 pm

Imperium of Texas wrote:Should I play Texas as my First Nation in Victoria 2? I am quite Patriotic when comes to my home state but I’m not sure if it’s a good idea though since I haven’t even played the game yet.

The best nation for beginners is Portugal, the United States, and Belgium. All provide an interesting but not overwhelming look into game mechanics and allow you to get a grasp on the primary functions of the game. Play Texas after you familiarize yourself a bit with the economy to get a much more fulfilling time with what is a fun but difficult nation to play as.

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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:53 pm

Bralia wrote:Did not expect an ultra-long stream, I actually have to go now. Victoria 3 is actually looking super chill. I was worried about things to do on a tick by tick and day by day basis, but I think it feels kinda okay. There definitely seems to always be something to worry about economically. I do wish there were way more events, though, V3 is looking extremely barren when it comes to national happenings.

and also the war AI is a little... odd.

But then again one would expect Content (like events) and AI to be some of the last things to be worked on, which you only really tune up after the basic mechanical systems are more or less finalised.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:45 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Bralia wrote:Did not expect an ultra-long stream, I actually have to go now. Victoria 3 is actually looking super chill. I was worried about things to do on a tick by tick and day by day basis, but I think it feels kinda okay. There definitely seems to always be something to worry about economically. I do wish there were way more events, though, V3 is looking extremely barren when it comes to national happenings.

and also the war AI is a little... odd.

But then again one would expect Content (like events) and AI to be some of the last things to be worked on, which you only really tune up after the basic mechanical systems are more or less finalised.

I literally just finished the stream and I didn't notice any issues with war AI. The Belgian invasion of Russia was spectacularly successful.
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Postby Cacos de Ayiti » Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:47 pm

Play as Haiti and whoop some empires

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Cacos de Ayiti wrote:Play as Haiti and whoop some empires

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Postby Wallowis » Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:28 am

For the most part, I think the Vic3 stream was pretty exciting. There were a few things that disappointed me, such as the market graphs and other graphs not really being that curvy, just having big drops and rises, as well as the Belgian invasion of St. Petersburg, but other than that it seems pretty fine just needs a few improvements.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:01 am

The stream was good I think. Pretty much solidified my opinion that everything except warfare looks really good. I will def be buying the game and just hoping all the critical feedback leads to changes on that front eventually.
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Postby Wallowis » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:06 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:The stream was good I think. Pretty much solidified my opinion that everything except warfare looks really good. I will def be buying the game and just hoping all the critical feedback leads to changes on that front eventually.

I disagree. The current warfare system IS PERFECT. There is just as much "don't change warfare" critical feedback as "change warfare" critical feedback.

If they change warfare to normal via a DLC or some shit, I won't ever buy that DLC. If its through an update, I'll just rollback my update to before.
Aside from some weird AI naval invasions (which exist and are even more of a problem in hoi4, mind you), warfare is perfect.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:16 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:The stream was good I think. Pretty much solidified my opinion that everything except warfare looks really good. I will def be buying the game and just hoping all the critical feedback leads to changes on that front eventually.

I disagree. The current warfare system IS PERFECT. There is just as much "don't change warfare" critical feedback as "change warfare" critical feedback.

If they change warfare to normal via a DLC or some shit, I won't ever buy that DLC. If its through an update, I'll just rollback my update to before.
Aside from some weird AI naval invasions (which exist and are even more of a problem in hoi4, mind you), warfare is perfect.


Agree to disagree. The system is bland, uninteresting, entirely lacking in almost any sort of strategy and most importantly the AI is as dumb as ever. That’s pretty much what I thought was going to be the worst case scenario for the system.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wallowis wrote:I disagree. The current warfare system IS PERFECT. There is just as much "don't change warfare" critical feedback as "change warfare" critical feedback.

If they change warfare to normal via a DLC or some shit, I won't ever buy that DLC. If its through an update, I'll just rollback my update to before.
Aside from some weird AI naval invasions (which exist and are even more of a problem in hoi4, mind you), warfare is perfect.


Agree to disagree. The system is bland, uninteresting, entirely lacking in almost any sort of strategy and most importantly the AI is as dumb as ever. That’s pretty much what I thought was going to be the worst case scenario for the system.

but dumb AI makes me feel smart :(
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Postby Wallowis » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:34 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wallowis wrote:I disagree. The current warfare system IS PERFECT. There is just as much "don't change warfare" critical feedback as "change warfare" critical feedback.

If they change warfare to normal via a DLC or some shit, I won't ever buy that DLC. If its through an update, I'll just rollback my update to before.
Aside from some weird AI naval invasions (which exist and are even more of a problem in hoi4, mind you), warfare is perfect.


Agree to disagree. The system is bland, uninteresting, entirely lacking in almost any sort of strategy and most importantly the AI is as dumb as ever. That’s pretty much what I thought was going to be the worst case scenario for the system.

I'll agree to disagree after one more post:

From what I've seen, yes, it could be more interesting, and I think they should make it more interesting, but they shouldn't go back to the old method. Make battles more complicated, allow you to customise battalions through a sort of "production method" interface (they might already), and make the AI a bit smarter. But that's all of my feedback.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:58 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:It begins.


Id recommend playing a minor nation for a few runs to just get used to things then when you feel confident enough move onto a major like Germany or America which are probably the most new player friendly of the big powers.

I just used a random number generator and a list of nations to pick my first. It landed on 27, so I am starting as Ethiopia.

Very bold starting country choice, i like it, i like it.

I dont know if you will lol
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