PDX Games IX: Western Pre-Turkic Empire

[The Huskar Social Union]

I hate that the name "Tankograd" is a real thing. Gives me "Istanbul" vibes. Naming places just really goes to hell as humanity ages, doesn't it? Uncreative losers.

It was just a nickname for Chelyabinsk. It's not a real city, unfortunately.

Indeed. As Chelyabinsk produced something like 18000 tanks during ww2 for the Red Army and a fuck ton of ammunition. A nickname very much deserved.

[Ifreann]

Tanky McTanktown.

[Heloin]

I hate that the name "Tankograd" is a real thing. Gives me "Istanbul" vibes. Naming places just really goes to hell as humanity ages, doesn't it? Uncreative losers.

It was just a nickname for Chelyabinsk. It's not a real city, unfortunately.

Chelyabinsk isn’t real you say? That meteor must of done a lot more damage then I thought.

[Lunas Legion]

Cupbearers will finally truly take the bullet in Royal Court.

...Can I plot to poison myself, yet, so I can poison my cupbearer?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Cupbearers will finally truly take the bullet in Royal Court.

...Can I plot to poison myself, yet, so I can poison my cupbearer?

6head plays right here

[Lunas Legion]

...Can I plot to poison myself, yet, so I can poison my cupbearer?

6head plays right here

It's genius, I tell you. Obviously you drink the antidote in advance just in case they somehow screw up their job, but who'd suspect a thing?

[Renoa]

6head plays right here

It's genius, I tell you. Obviously you drink the antidote in advance just in case they somehow screw up their job, but who'd suspect a thing?

Building up an immunity to iocaine powder learning challenge confirmed.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Cupbearers will finally truly take the bullet in Royal Court.

...Can I plot to poison myself, yet, so I can poison my cupbearer?

Genius.

[HISPIDA]

I don't know what it is about CK2 that makes me have a love-hate relationship with it.

On the one hand, I absolutely abhor the base game. It's my least favorite Paradox game (that I've played); the UI is ugly, the gameplay is boring and uninteresting, the timeline is a slog, and it plays more like a glorified RPG than a GSG.

On the other hand, I can't get enough of playing fantasy mods for it. Elder Kings comes to mind first and foremost, but there's also a Fire Emblem mod (that's sadly unfinished) that I've recently installed as well as the ATLA mod. I love playing these, but hate the actual base game itself. Is anyone else like this with any other games?

[Ithalian Empire]

I don't know what it is about CK2 that makes me have a love-hate relationship with it.

On the one hand, I absolutely abhor the base game. It's my least favorite Paradox game (that I've played); the UI is ugly, the gameplay is boring and uninteresting, the timeline is a slog, and it plays more like a glorified RPG than a GSG.

On the other hand, I can't get enough of playing fantasy mods for it. Elder Kings comes to mind first and foremost, but there's also a Fire Emblem mod (that's sadly unfinished) that I've recently installed as well as the ATLA mod. I love playing these, but hate the actual base game itself. Is anyone else like this with any other games?

the UI is ugly, the gameplay is boring and uninteresting, the timeline is a slog, and it plays more like a glorified RPG

Honestly I think if Paradox advertised CK as an RPG instead of a grand strategy game things would be better, because it is just that. Its as RPG centered around on the most important time periods in Western History. The end of antiquity, the rise of Islam and Chirstanity strengthening its hold on Europe, the clash of these two faiths setting up conflicts thousands of years into the future. The rise of empires that would live on well into the modern era and whos influence can be still felt. Honestly the time line of CK2 and 3 covers some of the most interesting parts of history.

[Crysuko]

I could learn how to operate a nuclear reactor before I learn how to play CK2 or 3. Actually, said reactor is probably more intuitive and less complicated.

[HISPIDA]

I could learn how to operate a nuclear reactor before I learn how to play CK2 or 3. Actually, said reactor is probably more intuitive and less complicated.

it'd also be more fun pepega

[Bralia]

The Elder Council is making it into Victoria 2. Wonder how viable it would be for recognized nations to support that government structure.

[HISPIDA]

The Elder Council is making it into Victoria 2. Wonder how viable it would be for recognized nations to support that government structure.

Oh, cool. Reforms actually depend on popularity, it seems.

[Crysuko]

EU4: going for a united Ireland run, wish me luck. Eire go bragh.

[Bralia]

"Laws are almost always completely independent from one another. You can create a Constitutional Monarchy with hereditary succession but Universal Suffrage, or an Autocratic Presidential Republic with a strongman leader at the top of the food chain. You can have a Secret Police and still permit fully Protected Speech."

Communist utopia, but the children have to stay in the factories, let's go!

[Serrus]

The Elder Council is making it into Victoria 2. Wonder how viable it would be for recognized nations to support that government structure.

Excellent for the CK2 converters, honestly.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

"Laws are almost always completely independent from one another. You can create a Constitutional Monarchy with hereditary succession but Universal Suffrage, or an Autocratic Presidential Republic with a strongman leader at the top of the food chain. You can have a Secret Police and still permit fully Protected Speech."

Communist utopia, but the children have to stay in the factories, let's go!

The children will only learn class struggle from experience.

[The Batavia]

"Laws are almost always completely independent from one another. You can create a Constitutional Monarchy with hereditary succession but Universal Suffrage, or an Autocratic Presidential Republic with a strongman leader at the top of the food chain. You can have a Secret Police and still permit fully Protected Speech."

Communist utopia, but the children have to stay in the factories, let's go!

Damn this is actually awesome. I love these mix and match mechanics

MILITARY PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRACY HERE WE FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Huskar Social Union]

"Laws are almost always completely independent from one another. You can create a Constitutional Monarchy with hereditary succession but Universal Suffrage, or an Autocratic Presidential Republic with a strongman leader at the top of the food chain. You can have a Secret Police and still permit fully Protected Speech."

Communist utopia, but the children have to stay in the factories, let's go!

This looks awesome.

[Frisia Magna]

"Laws are almost always completely independent from one another. You can create a Constitutional Monarchy with hereditary succession but Universal Suffrage, or an Autocratic Presidential Republic with a strongman leader at the top of the food chain. You can have a Secret Police and still permit fully Protected Speech."

Communist utopia, but the children have to stay in the factories, let's go!

I like this new government/law mechanics tbh. More accurate than vic 2.

[Renoa]

I’m starting to love Stellaris because the callous cruelty you can commit affects billions of people at a time. I’ve kept a billion people living in abject poverty even when I had the resources to easily lift them out of it because I didn’t feel it was economically viable to do so and more importantly, I didn’t really feel like it.

[Herador]

I’m starting to love Stellaris because the callous cruelty you can commit affects billions of people at a time. I’ve kept a billion people living in abject poverty even when I had the resources to easily lift them out of it because I didn’t feel it was economically viable to do so and more importantly, I didn’t really feel like it.

Jeez Jeff, take a chill pill

[Renoa]

I’m starting to love Stellaris because the callous cruelty you can commit affects billions of people at a time. I’ve kept a billion people living in abject poverty even when I had the resources to easily lift them out of it because I didn’t feel it was economically viable to do so and more importantly, I didn’t really feel like it.

Jeez Jeff, take a chill pill

I’ll chill when all the xenos in the galaxy have chilled… permanently.

[Grenartia]

Jeez Jeff, take a chill pill

I’ll chill when all the xenos in the galaxy have chilled… permanently.

No, no, freezing xenos preserves them. Duh. Didn't you learn anything at space high school?