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Postby Bralia » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:12 pm

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Postby Dakran » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:04 pm


What on gods green earth am I looking at, that can't possible be a human being, can it be?

EDIT: I'm playing as the Armenian Apostolic king of... Armenia, obviously. Married into the French royal family. Sons had a claim to France. So I took it.
EDIT 2: I'm in a position where I could genuinely consider reforming the Roman Empire if I press my claims. I... I think I might.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:29 am

Dakran wrote:

What on gods green earth am I looking at, that can't possible be a human being, can it be?

EDIT: I'm playing as the Armenian Apostolic king of... Armenia, obviously. Married into the French royal family. Sons had a claim to France. So I took it.
EDIT 2: I'm in a position where I could genuinely consider reforming the Roman Empire if I press my claims. I... I think I might.
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Gods please do, those borders are horrendous.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:37 am

Valrifell wrote:
Dakran wrote:What on gods green earth am I looking at, that can't possible be a human being, can it be?

EDIT: I'm playing as the Armenian Apostolic king of... Armenia, obviously. Married into the French royal family. Sons had a claim to France. So I took it.
EDIT 2: I'm in a position where I could genuinely consider reforming the Roman Empire if I press my claims. I... I think I might.
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Gods please do, those borders are horrendous.

You think that's bad? The current borders in my playthrough are a mess. The British Isles were especially a mess, but I could actually do something about that: I just finished creating the Empire of Britannia, after wrestling control of it from about a dozen other European countries that had chopped it up amongst themselves.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:47 am


I've not got anything that bad yet, but there have been some very fugly characters ngl.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:46 am

The New California Republic wrote:

I've not got anything that bad yet, but there have been some very fugly characters ngl.


Thankfully, in the only full playthrough I've done, my main dynasty had a "give everyone a big fuckin beard" gene so I couldn't see how ugly some of them were.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:21 am


Good to see they are giving much higher penalties for high amounts of debt. I've seen some of the Islamic empires rack up debts of tens of thousands of gold during times of war, which I have thought to be sheer douchebaggery that they can get away with it with no major penalties at all.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:24 am

Valrifell wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I've not got anything that bad yet, but there have been some very fugly characters ngl.


Thankfully, in the only full playthrough I've done, my main dynasty had a "give everyone a big fuckin beard" gene so I couldn't see how ugly some of them were.

Long hair, a big beard, and a big Emperor crown all hide a multitude of sins.
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But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Bralia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:47 am

The New California Republic wrote:

Good to see they are giving much higher penalties for high amounts of debt. I've seen some of the Islamic empires rack up debts of tens of thousands of gold during times of war, which I have thought to be sheer douchebaggery that they can get away with it with no major penalties at all.

Hopefully that hurts the Pope, too, if it weren't for him hiring literally every merc company on the planet, I might have actually stood a chance against him during my Irish game.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:10 am

Bralia wrote:-snip-

Paradox wrote:- Wounded Knights are now less likely to die in battle
- Outnumbering the enemy now further increases the survivability of your knights

Yes, please. No more slaughterfests in war. :p

Paradox wrote:- The Renown gain from alive dynasty members is now capped at 2/month (100 alive members)

Yeah... this really needed a fix. The dominant strategy for renown won't be having a huge and stable realm with vassals of your dynasty everywhere. Now there's a serious incentive towards letting go of vassals. Which is actually very interesting, because it comes in the same update with...

Paradox wrote:If you have Partition and your primary title has a special election form, the heir to that title will be the primary heir for your Partition and get a share as long as they're a valid player heir, even if they otherwise wouldn't have been part of the Partition, or later in the Partition order

...this. Very much yes; this alone makes it worth starting another Scandinavian campaign; I'll be able to form Scandinavia, remain one-empire Scandinavia instead of having to seize a second empire title quickly, and not have to worry about losing my capital duchy every succession. Scandinavia, England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland and I'm already 5/10 for the Dynasty of Many Crowns. :D

Paradox wrote:- Added a descriptive text in the Dynasty View that tells how you pan it

But did they fix the issue of the Dynasty View setting my laptop on fire whenever I try to open it?

Paradox wrote:- Gave the AI dancing lessons

I wonder what this means...

The two things I had hoped for that didn't make it in concern tribal-to-feudal transitions (it should be way less brutal than it currently is, more in line with how it was like in CK2...) and de-jure drift for realms with more than one top tier title (if I hold the kingdom of X and the kingdom of Y, de-jure duchies of Y shouldn't de-jure drift into X).
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Postby Bralia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:32 am

Plzen wrote:Now there's a serious incentive towards letting go of vassals.

Over my dead fucking real life body.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:35 am

Bralia wrote:Over my dead fucking real life body.

One de-jure empire satiates my greed. :p Plzen is a ruler of modest ambitions.

Also, lucky break for me, because there's a local holiday here and I have a 5-day weekend from Wednesday to Sunday. Plenty of time to delve into a new 867 campaign...

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:19 am

Plzen wrote:
Paradox wrote:- Added a descriptive text in the Dynasty View that tells how you pan it

But did they fix the issue of the Dynasty View setting my laptop on fire whenever I try to open it?

I was hoping there would be some mention of the dynasty tree issues being fixed, such as the incredibly long load times.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:49 am

Bralia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Good to see they are giving much higher penalties for high amounts of debt. I've seen some of the Islamic empires rack up debts of tens of thousands of gold during times of war, which I have thought to be sheer douchebaggery that they can get away with it with no major penalties at all.

Hopefully that hurts the Pope, too, if it weren't for him hiring literally every merc company on the planet, I might have actually stood a chance against him during my Irish game.


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Postby Purpelia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:53 am

Reading those patch notes for CK3 I am deeply disappointed. They are already going down the route of ruining the game by plugging fun exploits.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:56 pm

Plzen wrote:
Paradox wrote:- Gave the AI dancing lessons

I wonder what this means...

I should actually read the rest of the thread before making a joke.

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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:00 pm

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Postby Dakran » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:27 pm

Unfortunately my king with all the claims died before I could claim much more, and then a catholic populist uprising stole some land from me because even though it was in *my* land, it was still technically against Byzantium as opposed to me, so I didn't notice what the war was about until it was too late.
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Postby Plzen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:40 pm

Heloin wrote:I should actually read the rest of the thread before making a joke.

Lazyness is a trait shared by many, myself included. :p

It's annoying reading the discussions about these patch notes on the Paradox forums because too many posts boil down to "I didn't read the patch notes, is X included?" Read and find out, you lazy internet folks. >_>;;

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Postby Serrus » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:48 pm

Myrensis wrote:Anyone know if there's a CK3->EU4 save converter yet?

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Postby Heloin » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:09 pm

Plzen wrote:
Heloin wrote:I should actually read the rest of the thread before making a joke.

Lazyness is a trait shared by many, myself included. :p

Like my father and his father before him.

It's annoying reading the discussions about these patch notes on the Paradox forums because too many posts boil down to "I didn't read the patch notes, is X included?" Read and find out, you lazy internet folks. >_>;;

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Postby The Hindustani State » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:52 pm

Imperator’s Vetruvius update is being touted as the "definitive free update" before they begin releasing expansions

So I guess this update will finally make Imperator what it should have been at release
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Postby The Hindustani State » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:53 pm

In other news, Johan on Twitter posted a teaser for tomorrows EU4 DD, and… it seems Steppe Hordes will be getting a rework!
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