PDX Games IX: Western Pre-Turkic Empire

[Bralia]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Dude, I have absolutely no god-damn clue. If there's anything that's going to stop me from playing, it's the overwhelming amount of choice and my own paralyzing indecisiveness. I've already been attracted by too many different locations.

[Ithalian Empire]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Shit, I forget Africa is a thing. Might make that my second game.

[Sildorian Empire]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

I'll probably start with either a 866 tutorial island or do a 1066 Iberian King run because I've legit never played in Iberia in CK2.

[Heloin]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Dude, I have absolutely no god-damn clue. If there's anything that's going to stop me from playing, it's the overwhelming amount of choice and my own paralyzing indecisiveness. I've already been attracted by too many different locations.

List out every single playable character in each start date on one of those make your own spinning games online then let chance choose your start for you.

[Purpelia]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

I'll wait about 6 months or so to ensure it isn't another IR release. Than I'll watch some letsplays until I get hyped for one start or another. Also, find a mod that removes gravelking and all its related evils. Or make one.

[Sildorian Empire]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

I'll wait about 6 months or so to ensure it isn't another IR release. Than I'll watch some letsplays until I get hyped for one start or another. Also, find a mod that removes gravelking and all its related evils. Or make one.

Just play EU4 jfc, Crusader Kings isn't supposed to be a map painting game.

[Purpelia]

I'll wait about 6 months or so to ensure it isn't another IR release. Than I'll watch some letsplays until I get hyped for one start or another. Also, find a mod that removes gravelking and all its related evils. Or make one.

Just play EU4 jfc, Crusader Kings isn't supposed to be a map painting game.

EU4 is boring though. Kind of like Victoria. It has no character.

[Twicetagram and JYPe]

I wanna play as one of the smaller French region nations(Provence, Orleanais, Augberne idk) and make it like a power. Any tips?

[Heloin]

I wanna play as one of the smaller French region nations(Provence, Orleanais, Augberne idk) and make it like a power. Any tips?

Spend all your time building up, getting ready for your spotlight on the world stage then die in a fire when France butchers you just for fun.

[Sildorian Empire]

I wanna play as one of the smaller French region nations(Provence, Orleanais, Augberne idk) and make it like a power. Any tips?

You pretty much can't unless France gets absolutely fucked in early game.

[Purpelia]

Honestly I'd be able to tolerate graveking if these changes were made.
1. Allow me to set one title, one level bellow the main title (so duchy if I am a king or kingdom if I am an emperor) as the royal region that ALWAYS gets inherited by the primary heir. The rest can get split up.
2. Prevent heirs with lesser titles from breaking off. Having two sons each get a kingdom and go their separate ways is acceptable. It even almost makes sense. But unless that is the case there is just no excuse for having random duchies break off from your main kingdom.
3. Allow me to bypass the splitting by giving out reasonable sized titles to all my sons. So if I have a kingdom with 4 duchies and 3 sons and I hand each of them a duchy each, that's reasonable and I shouldn't get even more splitting after that.
4. The main ruler should newer ever stand to have less territory than any of the other heirs individually once the splitting is done. This should be calculated by total province wealth and not count.

I honestly do not see any of these as unreasonable. And ideally I'd like to see some sort of mechanism similar to the HOI4 victory treaty screen where you get to just pick who gets what.

[Twicetagram and JYPe]

I wanna play as one of the smaller French region nations(Provence, Orleanais, Augberne idk) and make it like a power. Any tips?

You pretty much can't unless France gets absolutely fucked in early game.

Ah fk. In one of my saves France was pretty much eaten up by England as well as some other nations, so I was wondering if I could do it myself.

[The Imperial Reach]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Byzantium, probably.

[Impaled Nazarene]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Byzantium, probably.

You're going to hate it worse than Vanilla Pre-patch CK2 Byzantium

[Serrus]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Given that I can't really stick to campaigns, I'm probably going to take a look around in West Africa, That New Purple Place, try to raid the expanded West Africa as Haesteinn because they specifically said they tried to prevent that, start scouting out Haesteinn invasion targets, and see what interesting religions were added.

[Bralia]

Imperator returns from summer vacation with the release of 1.5 Menander, coming tomorrow.

[The Imperial Reach]

Byzantium, probably.

You're going to hate it worse than Vanilla Pre-patch CK2 Byzantium

I never hated Byzantium. Not until they forced that shitty, historically inaccurate elective succession system.

[Valrifell]

You're going to hate it worse than Vanilla Pre-patch CK2 Byzantium

I never hated Byzantium. Not until they forced that shitty, historically inaccurate elective succession system.

It was either that or have historically inaccurate super-stable imperial dynasties where the Makedons would rule for the whole game.

[Duvniask]

So if you end up getting CK3, where are you gona play first?

It will be the boring choice, but if i pick it up im going to Ireland, specifically Ulster.

Noob island.

That or Alfonso, the King of Leon, like they showcased with the Twitch stream.

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A later goal of mine is to start as a young Alexios Komnenos in 1066 and do a glorious Komnenian restoration run as the Byzantines. But that would probably be most interesting if they go ahead and implement special mechanics for that empire, which was very unlike the feudal system of Western Europe.

[The Imperial Reach]

I never hated Byzantium. Not until they forced that shitty, historically inaccurate elective succession system.

It was either that or have historically inaccurate super-stable imperial dynasties where the Makedons would rule for the whole game.

I'd much rather have the actual succession system the Byzantines had in the Middle Ages: wherein whoever held the title of Co-Emperor, as appointed by the Emperor, would become the next Emperor. It'd essentially be like Open Succession where you pick and choose whoever you want as heir, the difference being it'd be a title you give to someone and they wouldn't lose it until death which would make things a bit more interesting.

The Byzantines stopped using the elective system portrayed in CKII by the 700s, which is where the earliest start date is located. So having it at that period of time is anachronistic.

[Bralia]

The SEA sultanates are set to rules the seas in the next EUIV update.

[Lunas Legion]

It was either that or have historically inaccurate super-stable imperial dynasties where the Makedons would rule for the whole game.

I'd much rather have the actual succession system the Byzantines had in the Middle Ages: wherein whoever held the title of Co-Emperor, as appointed by the Emperor, would become the next Emperor. It'd essentially be like Open Succession where you pick and choose whoever you want as heir, the difference being it'd be a title you give to someone and they wouldn't lose it until death which would make things a bit more interesting.

The Byzantines stopped using the elective system portrayed in CKII by the 700s, which is where the earliest start date is located. So having it at that period of time is anachronistic.

I'd say having a grantable title of Co-Emperor would probably work, probably with a major malus to pretender opinion and a minor one to that of powerful vassals given the sheer number of usurpers that there were historically. Maybe give all the powerful vassals strong claims on the title as well.

[Valrifell]

It was either that or have historically inaccurate super-stable imperial dynasties where the Makedons would rule for the whole game.

I'd much rather have the actual succession system the Byzantines had in the Middle Ages: wherein whoever held the title of Co-Emperor, as appointed by the Emperor, would become the next Emperor. It'd essentially be like Open Succession where you pick and choose whoever you want as heir, the difference being it'd be a title you give to someone and they wouldn't lose it until death which would make things a bit more interesting.

The Byzantines stopped using the elective system portrayed in CKII by the 700s, which is where the earliest start date is located. So having it at that period of time is anachronistic.

Even if it's a non-revokable title, having heir designation for the Byzies is very unbalanced. Maybe if there's a huge opinion malus for leaving the office unfilled would help, so if you don't have any kids there's a kind of "oh fuck" that would only be rectified by some murder.

Or make it a council decision with low centralization or somethin

[Purpelia]

I'd much rather have the actual succession system the Byzantines had in the Middle Ages: wherein whoever held the title of Co-Emperor, as appointed by the Emperor, would become the next Emperor. It'd essentially be like Open Succession where you pick and choose whoever you want as heir, the difference being it'd be a title you give to someone and they wouldn't lose it until death which would make things a bit more interesting.

The Byzantines stopped using the elective system portrayed in CKII by the 700s, which is where the earliest start date is located. So having it at that period of time is anachronistic.

I'd say having a grantable title of Co-Emperor would probably work, probably with a major malus to pretender opinion and a minor one to that of powerful vassals given the sheer number of usurpers that there were historically. Maybe give all the powerful vassals strong claims on the title as well.

How would that model the fact that every couple generations a big general or provincial leader would just declare him self emperor and start a civil war?

[Valrifell]

I'd say having a grantable title of Co-Emperor would probably work, probably with a major malus to pretender opinion and a minor one to that of powerful vassals given the sheer number of usurpers that there were historically. Maybe give all the powerful vassals strong claims on the title as well.

How would that model the fact that every couple generations a big general or provincial leader would just declare him self emperor and start a civil war?

"Maybe give all the powerful vassals strong claims on the title as well"