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Europa Universalis
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Victoria
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15%
Crusader Kings
24
22%
Hearts of Iron
23
21%
Stellaris
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21%
One of those weird "published by PDX" games that nobody ever talks about here
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Impaled Nazarene
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Ex-Nation

Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:07 am

Supernatural DLC I'm calling it now. They're going to combine the DLC policies of HOI4 and EUIV for it.
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Postby Abserdia » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:09 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Supernatural DLC I'm calling it now. They're going to combine the DLC policies of HOI4 and EUIV for it.

Please no...
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:05 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Supernatural DLC I'm calling it now. They're going to combine the DLC policies of HOI4 and EUIV for it.

A medieval intelligence agency made up of lesbian witches?
Count me in!

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:27 pm

My new favorite EU4 meme.

Burgundian Succession Crisis
https://youtu.be/xfT__NTmhDU

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:46 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Supernatural DLC I'm calling it now. They're going to combine the DLC policies of HOI4 and EUIV for it.

Will the SS get their hands on the Ark of the Covenant?
Can your agents infiltrate Austrian and snatch the Spear of Destiny under Hitlers claws?
And what has become of Castle Wulfenstein?

Yea, I'd buy that DLC.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:55 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Supernatural DLC I'm calling it now. They're going to combine the DLC policies of HOI4 and EUIV for it.

Will the SS get their hands on the Ark of the Covenant?
Can your agents infiltrate Austrian and snatch the Spear of Destiny under Hitlers claws?
And what has become of Castle Wulfenstein?

Yea, I'd buy that DLC.

With the new 'Archeologist' type agent.
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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:58 pm

>no Aztecs
>no Glitterhoof
>no supernatural events
>no Deus Vult
>no Lesbarchy


"0/10. Worst game ever. Literally unplayable." - IGN
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:17 pm

This all being said if there is a single thing that I would like to see more than anything it's an alt history option in the starting menu to have Germany go down the Berlin-Moscow Axis path.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:23 pm

Stuff
So I decided to give this game a shot. Imperator that is. Also i'm messing around in Yemen because I spent a solid 15 minutes looking for something that vaguely resembled Tutorial Island. Ireland in this game is a total mess. Anyway I managed to form Yamnat as Qataba. But now I have this weird thing to ask I guess. How does one deal with this weird tribal succession thing? I have zero say over who gets to be the next Chief. Can't find any buttons. This feels like a bastardized amalgam of Imperial Elective and Merchant Elective. This is a real problem as I had messed around a Qataba before, only to be handed a string of 60 year olds who all died in quick succession, tanking my stability and game-ending me after a civil war fired. Not to mention how abysmal their stats are compared to the randomly generated cretin you're handed at game start. And then for whatever reason, my wages fee keeps going up, slowly eating away at my profits, which, unless I continue taking more land and building more cities, becomes a real problem.
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Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:26 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:Stuff
So I decided to give this game a shot. Imperator that is. Also i'm messing around in Yemen because I spent a solid 15 minutes looking for something that vaguely resembled Tutorial Island. Ireland in this game is a total mess. Anyway I managed to form Yamnat as Qataba. But now I have this weird thing to ask I guess. How does one deal with this weird tribal succession thing? I have zero say over who gets to be the next Chief. Can't find any buttons. This feels like a bastardized amalgam of Imperial Elective and Merchant Elective. This is a real problem as I had messed around a Qataba before, only to be handed a string of 60 year olds who all died in quick succession, tanking my stability and game-ending me after a civil war fired. Not to mention how abysmal their stats are compared to the randomly generated cretin you're handed at game start. And then for whatever reason, my wages fee keeps going up, slowly eating away at my profits, which, unless I continue taking more land and building more cities, becomes a real problem.

I tried the tutorial as rome, and it continues again as being another shit paradox tutorial.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:30 pm

Genivaria wrote:My new favorite EU4 meme.

Burgundian Succession Crisis
https://youtu.be/xfT__NTmhDU


I once had the game bug on me and have the Burgundian Succession event fire...

while I was playing as Burgundy. Instant game over. I was very displeased.
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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:04 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:Stuff
So I decided to give this game a shot. Imperator that is. Also i'm messing around in Yemen because I spent a solid 15 minutes looking for something that vaguely resembled Tutorial Island. Ireland in this game is a total mess. Anyway I managed to form Yamnat as Qataba. But now I have this weird thing to ask I guess. How does one deal with this weird tribal succession thing? I have zero say over who gets to be the next Chief. Can't find any buttons. This feels like a bastardized amalgam of Imperial Elective and Merchant Elective. This is a real problem as I had messed around a Qataba before, only to be handed a string of 60 year olds who all died in quick succession, tanking my stability and game-ending me after a civil war fired. Not to mention how abysmal their stats are compared to the randomly generated cretin you're handed at game start. And then for whatever reason, my wages fee keeps going up, slowly eating away at my profits, which, unless I continue taking more land and building more cities, becomes a real problem.

An update to this game: I am extremely behind in technology, mainly because of how I'm a tribe and all that. In order to stop being a tribe, I need to pray to whatever god one believes in and hope for a surprise centralization event. The odds of those events happening are apparently increased by tech levels and the like, so in other words, bleh. I need to increase the number of citizens in my country, but doing so means I need to make cities, and cities need loads of Political Influence.

TL;DR: Yours Truly is An Idiot 2, Electric Boogaloo.

I'm pretty sure this is not how you are supposed to play.

EDIT: Despite my attempts at trying to play this thing getting stymied by the almost Byzantine levels of mechanics theft the game has pulled on other PDX titles (CK2 characters, Vicky pops, I mean they even have a political power resource, straight from HOI4), plus the general shooting in the dark I have to do due to the lack of a workable tutorial, I have managed to dig something about Imperator. Music's great. Even outside the game. That is all, until I wrap my head around everything from not-so-magical corruption, 'Increase Council Power' in 40 months, and however the hell tech works.
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This nation does not reflect my IRL views on anything.
Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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Postby Bralia » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:39 pm

This is the second Wednesday in a row where I've forgotten it's Wednesday. Here's the HoI4 Dev Diary that I forgot about, again. Unique Portuguese and Spanish models are now in the game.
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:13 am

Bralia wrote:This is the second Wednesday in a row where I've forgotten it's Wednesday. Here's the HoI4 Dev Diary that I forgot about, again. Unique Portuguese and Spanish models are now in the game.

Playing a napoleon game and sad to see no focus for alliance with Nationalist Spain.

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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:14 am

Bralia wrote:This is the second Wednesday in a row where I've forgotten it's Wednesday. Here's the HoI4 Dev Diary that I forgot about, again. Unique Portuguese and Spanish models are now in the game.

If Britain or France decide to abandon Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia in their respective event chains, any guarantees they have made to those countries are revoked

Now all they need to do is stop France and or Britain from guaranteeing random nations before the Sudetenland crisis even occurs.
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:37 am

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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:26 am

Imperator Not-Rome Part I don't remember
messed around in a couple other corners, the Arabic republic south of the Selucids, the Etruscans, and another crack at trying to understand the tutorial, but I after all that, I decided to return to Qabata. Now I'd like some help with the above tooltip. In order to convert to Judaism, I need:

-200 Political Influence
-A Jewish High Priest
-50+ percent of my free pops being Jewish,

and then there's this last one. I can't understand it. I've tried sending bribes and the like to some of my less loyal characters (pushing their loyalty past the 60 mark) and nothing has happened to this requirement. Does anyone know what it means?

Oh and as for why I am asking, well I'm worried that when it comes time for me to put serious effort into playing this game, not understanding shit like this will come back to bite me.
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NS stats are not used.
This nation does not reflect my IRL views on anything.
Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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Lunas Legion
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:40 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:Imperator Not-Rome Part I don't remember
messed around in a couple other corners, the Arabic republic south of the Selucids, the Etruscans, and another crack at trying to understand the tutorial, but I after all that, I decided to return to Qabata. Now I'd like some help with the above tooltip. In order to convert to Judaism, I need:

-200 Political Influence
-A Jewish High Priest
-50+ percent of my free pops being Jewish,

and then there's this last one. I can't understand it. I've tried sending bribes and the like to some of my less loyal characters (pushing their loyalty past the 60 mark) and nothing has happened to this requirement. Does anyone know what it means?

Oh and as for why I am asking, well I'm worried that when it comes time for me to put serious effort into playing this game, not understanding shit like this will come back to bite me.


There's one character who's loyalty is below 60 who's stopping you from doing it I think.
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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:48 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:Imperator Not-Rome Part I don't remember
messed around in a couple other corners, the Arabic republic south of the Selucids, the Etruscans, and another crack at trying to understand the tutorial, but I after all that, I decided to return to Qabata. Now I'd like some help with the above tooltip. In order to convert to Judaism, I need:

-200 Political Influence
-A Jewish High Priest
-50+ percent of my free pops being Jewish,

and then there's this last one. I can't understand it. I've tried sending bribes and the like to some of my less loyal characters (pushing their loyalty past the 60 mark) and nothing has happened to this requirement. Does anyone know what it means?

Oh and as for why I am asking, well I'm worried that when it comes time for me to put serious effort into playing this game, not understanding shit like this will come back to bite me.


There's one character who's loyalty is below 60 who's stopping you from doing it I think.

Well which character is that then? It can't be any of the guys to whom I tossed some hands for a loyalty boost.
NS stats are not used.
This nation does not reflect my IRL views on anything.
Sorry for any mistakes I make with regards to history while roleplaying in historical RPs. Also I am not a qualified historian or academic. None of the make-believe I do is likely to stand up to academic scrutiny.

Valdez Islands is my puppet.

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Grenartia
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:56 am

Lib-left. Antifascist, antitankie, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist (including the imperialism of non-western countries). Christian (Unitarian Universalist). Background in physics.
Mostly a girl. She or they pronouns, please. Unrepentant transbian.
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Lunas Legion
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:02 am

Danubian Peoples wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
There's one character who's loyalty is below 60 who's stopping you from doing it I think.

Well which character is that then? It can't be any of the guys to whom I tossed some hands for a loyalty boost.


Don't know, it might be one of them since their loyalty didn't go high enough.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:07 am

....so a system of nothing but Crystalline asteroids is bad right?


Like.... i have suspicions when it said in the event "Something isnt right"
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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:....so a system of nothing but Crystalline asteroids is bad right?


Like.... i have suspicions when it said in the event "Something isnt right"


Oh.

Huskar, what, perchance, is the name of this system?
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:16 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:....so a system of nothing but Crystalline asteroids is bad right?


Like.... i have suspicions when it said in the event "Something isnt right"


Oh.

Huskar, what, perchance, is the name of this system?

Hixam.
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