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Bralia
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Postby Bralia » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:43 am

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:44 am

North German Realm wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So this guy rebels against me right, after i try to imprison him for righteous reasons. I win the war and take him prisoner. The second the war ends half his vassals become independent.


Excuse me?

That happens sometimes. Maybe he was dealing with an independence revolt? Or you accepted a white peace he offered (letting you imprison him but not his fellow revolting nobles)

Nah i definitely enforced demands, he might have been dealing with his own revolt but didnt look like it.

Ah well, all them bitches got reconquered.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:01 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
North German Realm wrote:That happens sometimes. Maybe he was dealing with an independence revolt? Or you accepted a white peace he offered (letting you imprison him but not his fellow revolting nobles)

Nah i definitely enforced demands, he might have been dealing with his own revolt but didnt look like it.

Ah well, all them bitches got reconquered.

Then idk why. It happens to me too sometimes (The next few years of reconquest are always boring, ngl)
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:21 am

Posted only 3 days ago on March 15th.
After the End: Old World.
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Bralia
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Postby Bralia » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:43 am

Archimedes, and the first paid content for I:R, Magna Graecia, will be released on the 31st. For $8.

And the updated roadmap tells of even more free content this summer. We as a community don't deserve this level of generosity, these people surely deserve more than $8 at this point.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:48 am

Bralia wrote:Archimedes, and the first paid content for I:R, Magna Graecia, will be released on the 31st. For $8.

And the updated roadmap tells of even more free content this summer. We as a community don't deserve this level of generosity, these people surely deserve more than $8 at this point.

They know that their customers are all stuck at home and have nothing else to do.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:47 am

North German Realm wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So this guy rebels against me right, after i try to imprison him for righteous reasons. I win the war and take him prisoner. The second the war ends half his vassals become independent.


Excuse me?

That happens sometimes. Maybe he was dealing with an independence revolt? Or you accepted a white peace he offered (letting you imprison him but not his fellow revolting nobles)


He may have been over vassal limit, and the game did a little miscalculation and released some vassals when the rebellion title was destroyed?
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Danubian Peoples
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:47 am

Genivaria wrote:Posted only 3 days ago on March 15th.
After the End: Old World.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 2023598805

Honestly I wish we could have After the End: Kaiserreich. Wait, actually, fuck it,

AFTER THE END: THE NEW ORDER.

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:13 am

Just what do people enjoy about KR? Serious question. I just find the heavily scripted system with forced events that only let you play the one historical path the designers want to be super annoying.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Renoa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:19 am

Purpelia wrote:Just what do people enjoy about KR? Serious question. I just find the heavily scripted system with forced events that only let you play the one historical path the designers want to be super annoying.

People say they enjoy the story and the lore. I do really like how detailed everything is, but clicking around on the different countries and reading the backstory does not make for very engaging gameplay. I find it really boring just waiting for the next event that I have no control over to pop up.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:23 am

Renoa wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Just what do people enjoy about KR? Serious question. I just find the heavily scripted system with forced events that only let you play the one historical path the designers want to be super annoying.

People say they enjoy the story and the lore. I do really like how detailed everything is, but clicking around on the different countries and reading the backstory does not make for very engaging gameplay. I find it really boring just waiting for the next event that I have no control over to pop up.

Does really take away the players ability to effect the game dunit.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:32 am

I like it because i find the world interesting and despite its railroadedness, i find the campaigns enjoyable. It makes fora good break from normal HOI4. And it has some cool starts and fun situations like the second russian civil war, the absolute clusterfuck that is the United States civil war, spreading syndicalism etc
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:40 am

A question about HOI4.
Light tanks make sense only because you can mass them to hold you over until you get mediums. Mediums are the tank to use. So what's the point of heavy tanks? They are slow and expensive and yet they don't really provide anything that mediums don't do in terms of performance for a unit of cost.

Am I missing something?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:42 am

So ive fought my way across the middle east and into Anatolia like a vicious raji snake. And i attacked the Byzantine empire for the first time, just after they bankrupted themselves in a failed war. And the second the war ended in my victory, the fucking pope declares a crusade on the Byzantines for Greece, who have like all of Catholic Europe bearing down on them.


Lol that pope is a dick
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:53 am

Purpelia wrote:A question about HOI4.
Light tanks make sense only because you can mass them to hold you over until you get mediums. Mediums are the tank to use. So what's the point of heavy tanks? They are slow and expensive and yet they don't really provide anything that mediums don't do in terms of performance for a unit of cost.

Am I missing something?


I think on paper they're meant for use against massed fortified positions.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:03 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Purpelia wrote:A question about HOI4.
Light tanks make sense only because you can mass them to hold you over until you get mediums. Mediums are the tank to use. So what's the point of heavy tanks? They are slow and expensive and yet they don't really provide anything that mediums don't do in terms of performance for a unit of cost.

Am I missing something?


I think on paper they're meant for use against massed fortified positions.

But who would ever attack those?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:13 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
I think on paper they're meant for use against massed fortified positions.

But who would ever attack those?


Sometimes you don't have a choice if the enemy has a nice big-ass pre-built fortified line.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:14 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Purpelia wrote:But who would ever attack those?


Sometimes you don't have a choice if the enemy has a nice big-ass pre-built fortified line.

Airplanes.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:32 pm

Any tips for playing in Persia? Might want to revisit 769 Esfahan, but some test games just shower me with raiders from up north. How do you deal with that? And less importantly, how did real life peoples deal with guys from unknown paganland? I mean they were a real hassle for the Romans, the Persians, the Muslims, basically everyone IIRC.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:34 pm

Spent 5000 grace for an invasion of the Abbasids for the chinese army to wait at the edge of the map and do nothing
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:36 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Spent 5000 grace for an invasion of the Abbasids for the chinese army to wait at the edge of the map and do nothing

I have never actually tried to use the Chinese Invasion mechanic because TBH, there are usually better uses for my grace. Might want to use China against the super-HRE in my Maghreb game tho.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:40 pm

Danubian Peoples wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Spent 5000 grace for an invasion of the Abbasids for the chinese army to wait at the edge of the map and do nothing

I have never actually tried to use the Chinese Invasion mechanic because TBH, there are usually better uses for my grace. Might want to use China against the super-HRE in my Maghreb game tho.

I typically use it for marriages, generals etc. But an invasion every now and then. Before its worked for me but i had this invasion launched a couple of years now and the Caliph is 57% of the way to victory because the Chinese army has not moved and not a single battle has been fought. So that was a fucking waste.


edit: OH THEY ARE MOVING, OH SHIT THEY ARE FINALLY FUCKING DOING SOMETHING.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:45 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Danubian Peoples wrote:I have never actually tried to use the Chinese Invasion mechanic because TBH, there are usually better uses for my grace. Might want to use China against the super-HRE in my Maghreb game tho.

I typically use it for marriages, generals etc. But an invasion every now and then. Before its worked for me but i had this invasion launched a couple of years now and the Caliph is 57% of the way to victory because the Chinese army has not moved and not a single battle has been fought. So that was a fucking waste.


edit: OH THEY ARE MOVING, OH SHIT THEY ARE FINALLY FUCKING DOING SOMETHING.


I use it for marriages.

This, uh, created an incest problem. Because when your entire family is married entirely to one other family, and they keep marrying that family...
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Postby Renoa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:58 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
This, uh, created an incest problem. Because when your entire family is married entirely to one other family, and they keep marrying that family...

Do you happen to be one of my vassals in my Lombard game? Around the time we got to the year 1200, those dumb bastards started refusing to marry anyone they don't share a grandparent with.

Speaking of the Lombard game, I hate being a HRE vassal in Italy, because every time the Kaiser stirs some shit with the Pope, Byzantines, or trade republics, I get 100,000 enemy troops dropped on my face and I have to smile and wave as they keep SIEGING ALL MY SHIT FUCK OFF YOU ITALIAN PRICKS I'M JUST TRYING TO VIBE OVER HERE.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:59 pm

woo


Lunas Legion wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I typically use it for marriages, generals etc. But an invasion every now and then. Before its worked for me but i had this invasion launched a couple of years now and the Caliph is 57% of the way to victory because the Chinese army has not moved and not a single battle has been fought. So that was a fucking waste.


edit: OH THEY ARE MOVING, OH SHIT THEY ARE FINALLY FUCKING DOING SOMETHING.


I use it for marriages.

This, uh, created an incest problem. Because when your entire family is married entirely to one other family, and they keep marrying that family...
Tang incest is best incest.
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