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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:28 pm

New Visayan Islands wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yis indeed

...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.

Vulkan: An even bigger hellhound with even bigger flamers.
Roboute Guilliman: Some kind of Mobile command vehicle, maybe something like that huge land fortress Leviathan thing.
Sanguinius: ???
Corvus Corax: I would imagine some kind of light tank, a skirmisher or something. Or perhaps a stealth tank?
Lion El'jonson: ????
Jaghatai Khan: Hmmm, Some kind of fast-moving tank destroyer?
Ferrus Manus: ???
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:26 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.

Vulkan: An even bigger hellhound with even bigger flamers.
Roboute Guilliman: Some kind of Mobile command vehicle, maybe something like that huge land fortress Leviathan thing.
Sanguinius: ???
Corvus Corax: I would imagine some kind of light tank, a skirmisher or something. Or perhaps a stealth tank?
Lion El'jonson: ????
Jaghatai Khan: Hmmm, Some kind of fast-moving tank destroyer?
Ferrus Manus: ???


The Ferrus Manus will be some dainty tankette because nobody remembers who he is, so why remember the tankette? Either that or a civilian support vehicle.

The Lion El'Jonson is a completely normal tank. NOTHING HAPPENS IN THESE, UNDERSTOOD?!

Sorry, perfection cannot be represented in a tank. Hawkboy thus won't get a tank- but a titan.
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:35 pm

New Visayan Islands wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yis indeed

...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.


The Ferrus Manus better have a turret...
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:05 pm

Sordhau wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.


The Ferrus Manus better have a turret...


Oh hey, yet another reason why the Ferrus Manus should be a tankette, I didn't even clock that :D
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Pointy Shark » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:12 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.

Vulkan: An even bigger hellhound with even bigger flamers.
Roboute Guilliman: Some kind of Mobile command vehicle, maybe something like that huge land fortress Leviathan thing.
Sanguinius: ???
Corvus Corax: I would imagine some kind of light tank, a skirmisher or something. Or perhaps a stealth tank?
Lion El'jonson: ????
Jaghatai Khan: Hmmm, Some kind of fast-moving tank destroyer?
Ferrus Manus: ???

Sanguinius wouldn't get a tank most likely. Some sort of assault craft or new and improved drop pod seem like a more reasonable bet.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:59 pm

Here, have a nice bit of scenery, freshly found on Imgur.


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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:19 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.

Vulkan: An even bigger hellhound with even bigger flamers.
Roboute Guilliman: Some kind of Mobile command vehicle, maybe something like that huge land fortress Leviathan thing.
Sanguinius: ???
Corvus Corax: I would imagine some kind of light tank, a skirmisher or something. Or perhaps a stealth tank?
Lion El'jonson: ????
Jaghatai Khan: Hmmm, Some kind of fast-moving tank destroyer?
Ferrus Manus: ???

Sanguinius is not a tank but an IG-scale Knight or Titan.

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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:20 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:Here, have a nice bit of scenery, freshly found on Imgur.

I just realized that a GTX4090 is a great scenery piece for a Mechanicus battlefield.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:26 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:Here, have a nice bit of scenery, freshly found on Imgur.

That is soo cool
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:31 pm

Almost got my Imperial Guard armies on parade entry for my local shop ready for Sunday, few last squads of infantry to finish off with some final touches on a few of the tanks and scenery (which im doing tonight). Might even throw in a Vindicare Assassin too if i can get him finished in time.

This has been a lot of fun, i dont even care if i dont win or anything it was a new experience for me. Ive no idea what the other entries are though there could be a custodes army based on some of the comments from one of the facebook posts on it.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:57 pm

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Postby Chan Island » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:48 pm

I've just been wondering: what do catachan imperial guardsmen do when they retire? We know that *some* guard go back to their home planets to retire, but I'd imagine that would be considered a punishment by the catachan troopers.

Personally I have a mental image of a planet of whute haired former rambos, but us there anything in lore about it?
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:00 am

Chan Island wrote:I've just been wondering: what do catachan imperial guardsmen do when they retire? We know that *some* guard go back to their home planets to retire, but I'd imagine that would be considered a punishment by the catachan troopers.

Personally I have a mental image of a planet of whute haired former rambos, but us there anything in lore about it?


Guard, of any stripe, have three paths for retirement as far as I remember. Roughly in order of likelihood:

1) They are discharged on the last planet they served on.
2) The unit are given/settled on a new/semi settled world to set up on.
3) They return to their home world.

For the most part once the guard leave their home world they aren't coming back. They serve where the Empire of Man needs them, and sending them home is a waste of resources.
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Postby Pointy Shark » Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:01 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Chan Island wrote:I've just been wondering: what do catachan imperial guardsmen do when they retire? We know that *some* guard go back to their home planets to retire, but I'd imagine that would be considered a punishment by the catachan troopers.

Personally I have a mental image of a planet of whute haired former rambos, but us there anything in lore about it?


Guard, of any stripe, have three paths for retirement as far as I remember. Roughly in order of likelihood:

1) They are discharged on the last planet they served on.
2) The unit are given/settled on a new/semi settled world to set up on.
3) They return to their home world.

For the most part once the guard leave their home world they aren't coming back. They serve where the Empire of Man needs them, and sending them home is a waste of resources.

That first one is making me imagine "Thank you for defeating the foul Xenos force on this death world guardsmen. NOW GET OUT!" and they just toss the retiring troops off the ship stranding them on a death world.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:23 am

Pointy Shark wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Guard, of any stripe, have three paths for retirement as far as I remember. Roughly in order of likelihood:

1) They are discharged on the last planet they served on.
2) The unit are given/settled on a new/semi settled world to set up on.
3) They return to their home world.

For the most part once the guard leave their home world they aren't coming back. They serve where the Empire of Man needs them, and sending them home is a waste of resources.

That first one is making me imagine "Thank you for defeating the foul Xenos force on this death world guardsmen. NOW GET OUT!" and they just toss the retiring troops off the ship stranding them on a death world.

Such is the joy of being expendable cannon fodder in service to the God-Emperor.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:10 pm

Armies on Parade display is finished. Gona get it all boxed up tonight and ill take some photos in the shop tomorrow when i get it all set up.

I didnt get to finish all the units i wanted for it so im short a Tempestor Prime, a Scions squad and three Heavy Weapons teams, wasnt able to finish them due to work and time constraints etc. But in total my display will consist of:

x1 Baneblade
x2 Leman Russ Tanks
x1 Wyvern
x1 Command Squad (5 men including Company Commander)
x1 Primaris Pysker
x1 Additional Company Commander
x1 Commissar
x2 Scions Squads (5 men each)
x3 Cadian Squads (10 men each)
x2 Sentinels
x7 Various Special Weapon gunners, two added to the main command squad and the other five with plasma guns accompanying the Commissar as a bodyguard unit of sorts.

And some various bits of scenery.


I think if i enter the Armies on Parade event at my local shop next year i might go chaos and enter a deathguard army.
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Postby Sordhau » Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:48 pm

Been thinking about how when Mortarion was fighting Guilliman the Emperor took control of Guilliman's body for a second and told Mortarion he wasn't beyond redemption, much to his understandable surprise. Reading up on him it seems like if any of the traitor primarchs could still redeem themselves it'd probably be Mortarion purely because he's not: a complete psychopath (Angron), addicted to his own vanity (Fulgrim), dead (Konrad Curze), had his soul obliterated (Horus), a raving fanatic (Lorgar), or the biggest asshole in 40k (Perturabo). Rather Mortarion actually cares for his men to some extent, never really wanted to serve Chaos in the first place, only embraced Chaos and Nurgle in particular after being betrayed by one his own lieutenants, seems to still hate the Chaos gods and Nurgle in particular, and seems to be the least corrupted by Chaos out of all the traitor primarchs.

Magnus also could potentially switch sides IIRC. He's not really fond of Tzeentch and kinda got forced into Chaos by his machinations, though the Emperor admittedly didn't help in that regard.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:11 am

Narrowly lost out on winning third in the Warhammer 40k gatecory at the Armies on Parade event at my local warhammer shop and ill be honest i didnt expect to win anything as this was my very first time doing something like this but it was a lot of fun and there were some brilliantly painted armies. Unfortunately a few people who were gona take part didnt get around to coming down it seems but there was still a good number of entries.

Ill upload some of my photos of my display and the others in shop tomorrow for you folks to see, busy at the moment getting everything packed away again and prepping for work tomorrow. Definitely gona take part in next years armies on parade event and im gona also do the new year new army thing in January which i might use as a basis for what to do for the main event. Was a nice way to get out of my comfort zone for the hobby and show off some of my work in person. Staff were all lovely and quite liked my guard, especially the metal kasrkins i had and the tanks so that was nice to hear lol
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:49 am

Sordhau wrote:Been thinking about how when Mortarion was fighting Guilliman the Emperor took control of Guilliman's body for a second and told Mortarion he wasn't beyond redemption, much to his understandable surprise. Reading up on him it seems like if any of the traitor primarchs could still redeem themselves it'd probably be Mortarion purely because he's not: a complete psychopath (Angron), addicted to his own vanity (Fulgrim), dead (Konrad Curze), had his soul obliterated (Horus), a raving fanatic (Lorgar), or the biggest asshole in 40k (Perturabo). Rather Mortarion actually cares for his men to some extent, never really wanted to serve Chaos in the first place, only embraced Chaos and Nurgle in particular after being betrayed by one his own lieutenants, seems to still hate the Chaos gods and Nurgle in particular, and seems to be the least corrupted by Chaos out of all the traitor primarchs.

Magnus also could potentially switch sides IIRC. He's not really fond of Tzeentch and kinda got forced into Chaos by his machinations, though the Emperor admittedly didn't help in that regard.


I know that in one of the books, the emperor expresses complete surprise at Mortarion's fall. He either expected or saw the reasoning for the other traitor primarchs, but Death Guard just throws him off.

While some folks play around with the Dornian heresy idea, I've always found myself shifting things much less and feeling it makes for more interesting outcomes. This is one of them.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:42 am

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:21 am

Oh and we got new battleboxes for Christmas announced

Sisters of Battle, Mechanicus, Imperial Fists, Raven Guard, Deathguard, Thousand Sons, Custodes and Imperial Knights.

Oh and AOS boxes too

Daughters of Khaine, Skaven, Stormcast, Orruk Warclans, Gloomspite Gitz, Nighthaunt and Sylvaneth.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:00 pm



Fun guard army you have there, nicely done.

Never done such an event before, so can't say anything about the presentation, but it's a neat army you have there nonetheless.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:11 pm

Chan Island wrote:


Fun guard army you have there, nicely done.

Never done such an event before, so can't say anything about the presentation, but it's a neat army you have there nonetheless.

Thank you Chan :)
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:44 pm

For those who play 30K, have you seen any Siege of Terra armies that use MK7 armour?

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Postby Sordhau » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:09 pm

What's that Astartes chapter that consists entirely of ghosts that show up at random when Imperial forces are in need? Can't remember their name for the life of me.
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