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Postby Chan Island » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:04 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rogal Dorn Battle Tank



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I really like it personally; folks online seem to be divided but i quite like it.

Fucking finally they release images. I kinda like it, I was always going to like a Sherman In Space, but the two heavy stubbers on the front look derpy as hell. At least the Guard has a tank that looks like people can fit inside it now.


Yeah, I'm not a fan of those 2 derpy little front guns either. Otherwise, absolutely baller.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:52 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rogal Dorn Battle Tank



More pics in article.

I really like it personally; folks online seem to be divided but i quite like it.

...what’s the betting we may end up seeing the Imperial Guard Astra Militarum WALL OF GUNS get the entire Loyalist Primarch Tank Line Set in the future? More to the point, I wonder what a tank themed after, say, Sanguinius would look like?
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Postby Raskana » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:35 am

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Raskana wrote:I was just wondering.

How long would the Imperium of Man survive without the Adeptus Astartes?, and what could they do to survive without their super soldiers? :)


I mean it could be argued that the gradual shrinkage of the Imperium is explicitly due to splitting the Legions into Chapters instead and it's over-reliance on the Imperial Guard. Removing the Space Marines from the equation altogether? I don't think the Imperium would last for very long afterwards and I don't see much they could do to avert that.

The only thing I could think off was micro bolters to replace the las guns, but yeah, agreed. :)
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Postby Sordhau » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:43 am

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I mean it could be argued that the gradual shrinkage of the Imperium is explicitly due to splitting the Legions into Chapters instead and it's over-reliance on the Imperial Guard. Removing the Space Marines from the equation altogether? I don't think the Imperium would last for very long afterwards and I don't see much they could do to avert that.

The only thing I could think off was micro bolters to replace the las guns, but yeah, agreed. :)


That wouldn't really work all that well. What makes the Space Marines so effective isn't the weapons they use but their natural abilities. Faster, stronger, smarter, and more resilient than any normal human being gives them an edge over the Guards and is what makes humanity capable of standing on it's own in a galaxy where just about every other race has a natural advantage over humanity without any kind of augmentation. The Tau have the same problem but instead of fixing it with genetically engineered super-soldiers they have their powerful battlesuits/mechs instead - without which they'd be in serious trouble.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:11 am

200,000 men and their lasguns will win the day
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:44 am

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Raskana wrote:The only thing I could think off was micro bolters to replace the las guns, but yeah, agreed. :)

That wouldn't really work all that well. What makes the Space Marines so effective isn't the weapons they use but their natural abilities. Faster, stronger, smarter, and more resilient than any normal human being gives them an edge over the Guards and is what makes humanity capable of standing on it's own in a galaxy where just about every other race has a natural advantage over humanity without any kind of augmentation. The Tau have the same problem but instead of fixing it with genetically engineered super-soldiers they have their powerful battlesuits/mechs instead - without which they'd be in serious trouble.

That and various allied sentient races.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:48 am

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Sordhau wrote:That wouldn't really work all that well. What makes the Space Marines so effective isn't the weapons they use but their natural abilities. Faster, stronger, smarter, and more resilient than any normal human being gives them an edge over the Guards and is what makes humanity capable of standing on it's own in a galaxy where just about every other race has a natural advantage over humanity without any kind of augmentation. The Tau have the same problem but instead of fixing it with genetically engineered super-soldiers they have their powerful battlesuits/mechs instead - without which they'd be in serious trouble.

That and various allied sentient races.

I wish the tau would get more auxiliary race models to flesh them out more. Would be really neat.
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Postby Raskana » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:49 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:That and various allied sentient races.

I wish the tau would get more auxiliary race models to flesh them out more. Would be really neat.

I would prefer a rebel human faction, one that does not rely on space marines or chaos space marines. :)
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Postby Sordhau » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:20 am

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:I wish the tau would get more auxiliary race models to flesh them out more. Would be really neat.

I would prefer a rebel human faction, one that does not rely on space marines or chaos space marines. :)


I mean the Tau do have the Gue'vesa.
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Postby Raskana » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:28 am

Sordhau wrote:
Raskana wrote:I would prefer a rebel human faction, one that does not rely on space marines or chaos space marines. :)


I mean the Tau do have the Gue'vesa.

Yeah, but its not really the same, they are cannon fodder as far as I know.
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Postby Sutalia » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:28 am

Raskana wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I wish the tau would get more auxiliary race models to flesh them out more. Would be really neat.

I would prefer a rebel human faction, one that does not rely on space marines or chaos space marines. :)

There is the Traitor Guard for that purpose.
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Postby Raskana » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:34 am

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Raskana wrote:I would prefer a rebel human faction, one that does not rely on space marines or chaos space marines. :)

There is the Traitor Guard for that purpose.

Meh, they are being used, I mean real rebels that want to overthrow the big E. :)

But that is never happening.
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Postby Sutalia » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:04 pm

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Sutalia wrote:There is the Traitor Guard for that purpose.

Meh, they are being used, I mean real rebels that want to overthrow the big E. :)

But that is never happening.

In that case, Genestealer Cults! :lol:
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:37 pm

Raskana wrote:
Sordhau wrote:I mean the Tau do have the Gue'vesa.

Yeah, but its not really the same, they are cannon fodder as far as I know.

Ignorance can and should be remedied:

Many of the Gue'vesa can trace their origins back to the Damocles Gulf Crusade. When the first Imperial war against the T'au ground to a stalemate, the Imperial forces decided to retreat and redeploy their troops against a much more pressing threat in the Eastern Fringes of the galaxy, namely the Tyranid Hive Fleet Behemoth.

However, the withdrawal was so fast that many troops of the Astra Militarum were simply abandoned in T'au-controlled regions of space. O'Shovah, or Commander Farsight as he is known in the Imperium, gave these Humans the option of joining the T'au Empire, an offer that most accepted.

They were treated well by the T'au and were even allowed to continue worshipping the God-Emperor and maintain their faith in the Imperial Cult, though this version of the faith was purged of the fanatic and xenophobic sentiments that were commonplace in the Imperium.

As time passed, these Humans and their children turned from being reluctant converts to enthusiastic believers in the Greater Good. They now hope to spread the Greater Good and what they view as the extraordinary benefits of the T'au Empire to all of their fellow Human beings across the galaxy.


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Postby Sordhau » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:57 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Raskana wrote:Yeah, but its not really the same, they are cannon fodder as far as I know.

Ignorance can and should be remedied:

Many of the Gue'vesa can trace their origins back to the Damocles Gulf Crusade. When the first Imperial war against the T'au ground to a stalemate, the Imperial forces decided to retreat and redeploy their troops against a much more pressing threat in the Eastern Fringes of the galaxy, namely the Tyranid Hive Fleet Behemoth.

However, the withdrawal was so fast that many troops of the Astra Militarum were simply abandoned in T'au-controlled regions of space. O'Shovah, or Commander Farsight as he is known in the Imperium, gave these Humans the option of joining the T'au Empire, an offer that most accepted.

They were treated well by the T'au and were even allowed to continue worshipping the God-Emperor and maintain their faith in the Imperial Cult, though this version of the faith was purged of the fanatic and xenophobic sentiments that were commonplace in the Imperium.

As time passed, these Humans and their children turned from being reluctant converts to enthusiastic believers in the Greater Good. They now hope to spread the Greater Good and what they view as the extraordinary benefits of the T'au Empire to all of their fellow Human beings across the galaxy.


Until GW retconned the Tau so the Ethereals are actually mind-controlling everybody because people bitched that the Tau weren't grimdark enough.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:48 pm

Sutalia wrote:
Raskana wrote:Meh, they are being used, I mean real rebels that want to overthrow the big E. :)

But that is never happening.

In that case, Genestealer Cults! :lol:

Pretty sure they view The Big E as having four arms, so not sure how that’s gonna work out.
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Postby Raskana » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:54 pm

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Sutalia wrote:In that case, Genestealer Cults! :lol:

Pretty sure they view The Big E as having four arms, so not sure how that’s gonna work out.

Yeah, they are more like creepy bug hippies.

I was going for a fight the power vibe. :)

Imagine the big E as a Tyranid hybrid....
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:09 am

New Lord Solar model for the Imperial Guard

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Not fussed on the particular colour scheme here but i think with darker colours it could look really cool.

And a lot of the new Slaves to Darkness stuff for AoS is going live
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:56 am

I would love to get into the tabletop game but unfortunately the army that interests me the most (Maccabian Janissaries) has no official models and not much lore about them either.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:02 am

Sordhau wrote:I would love to get into the tabletop game but unfortunately the army that interests me the most (Maccabian Janissaries) has no official models and not much lore about them either.

I remember seeing a conversion someone made of those guys a while back, ill see if i can find it later but it would probably be an expensive kit bash

edit: found it
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:59 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Sordhau wrote:I would love to get into the tabletop game but unfortunately the army that interests me the most (Maccabian Janissaries) has no official models and not much lore about them either.

I remember seeing a conversion someone made of those guys a while back, ill see if i can find it later but it would probably be an expensive kit bash

edit: found it


Badass. I don't trust myself to do that kind of thing though lmao. I'd probably fuck it up trying to put together and paint my own miniatures.
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:07 pm

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A tank of Chunky proportions.

edit: oh and some stats and rule changes for it and the other AM tanks


Leman Russ on the right, Rogal Dorn in the middle (?), Baneblade on the left?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:11 pm

Sordhau wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:

A tank of Chunky proportions.

edit: oh and some stats and rule changes for it and the other AM tanks


Leman Russ on the right, Rogal Dorn in the middle (?), Baneblade on the left?

Yis indeed
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:48 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Leman Russ on the right, Rogal Dorn in the middle (?), Baneblade on the left?

Yis indeed

...now I’m even more curious as to when we might see the Imperial Guard get a full set of tanks named after the Loyal Primarchs, in addition to what capabilities said tanks might have.
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