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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:54 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I would like to get a Knight at some point in the future, mainly as a display piece but so i could also attach into a guard army for a larger battle.

Those things are the WH40K equivalent of a BattleMech, which usually means they are an absolute horror to behold for swarms of enemy infantry. Do Knights come with flamers, by the way?

Looks like a flamer to me
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:22 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Those things are the WH40K equivalent of a BattleMech, which usually means they are an absolute horror to behold for swarms of enemy infantry. Do Knights come with flamers, by the way?

Looks like a flamer to me


Unfortunately, it's not. That's a thermal canon. Heavy D6 blast weapon, according to wahapedia.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:47 am

Chan Island wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Looks like a flamer to me


Unfortunately, it's not. That's a thermal canon. Heavy D6 blast weapon, according to wahapedia.

Ahhhh i see.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:54 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I would like to get a Knight at some point in the future, mainly as a display piece but so i could also attach into a guard army for a larger battle.

Those things are the WH40K equivalent of a BattleMech, which usually means they are an absolute horror to behold for swarms of enemy infantry. Do Knights come with flamers, by the way?


Who needs a flamer when you can't get tied up in close combat and you have the ability to stomp on infantry with your feet?

The Huskar Social Union wrote:How is this for a 500 point list vs some Orks? Its a casual game so im not going all out on something ultra meta and ive only played two games before so its a way of getting used to thing still.

HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord](Plasma Pistol + Power Fist), Laurels of Command, War Lord Trait: Draconian Discipline

Troops:
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Flamer + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol and Power Axe
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Flamer + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol and Power Axe
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Grenade Launcher + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol and Power Axe

Elites:
-Astropath [Psychic Maelstrom] (Laspistol) Already comes with Smite, Astral Divination and Psychic Assault

Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Lascannon, x2 Sponson Heavy Bolters) Tace Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful, Wargear: Track Guards

Total Points: 499 according to Battle scribe. Also need to come up with a list against Marines.

edit: Oh and Regimental Doctrine is Disciplined Shooters


I'd probably drop the vox caster, power fist, and power axes. See if that gets you enough points for a heavy weapon team in one of the squads. Maybe heavy bolter, mortar or autocanon.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:02 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Those things are the WH40K equivalent of a BattleMech, which usually means they are an absolute horror to behold for swarms of enemy infantry. Do Knights come with flamers, by the way?


Who needs a flamer when you can't get tied up in close combat and you have the ability to stomp on infantry with your feet?

The Huskar Social Union wrote:How is this for a 500 point list vs some Orks? Its a casual game so im not going all out on something ultra meta and ive only played two games before so its a way of getting used to thing still.

HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord](Plasma Pistol + Power Fist), Laurels of Command, War Lord Trait: Draconian Discipline

Troops:
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Flamer + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol and Power Axe
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Flamer + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol and Power Axe
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Grenade Launcher + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol and Power Axe

Elites:
-Astropath [Psychic Maelstrom] (Laspistol) Already comes with Smite, Astral Divination and Psychic Assault

Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Lascannon, x2 Sponson Heavy Bolters) Tace Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful, Wargear: Track Guards

Total Points: 499 according to Battle scribe. Also need to come up with a list against Marines.

edit: Oh and Regimental Doctrine is Disciplined Shooters


I'd probably drop the vox caster, power fist, and power axes. See if that gets you enough points for a heavy weapon team in one of the squads. Maybe heavy bolter, mortar or autocanon.
Cheers ill give that a go

edit: Oh made a mistake the commander has a power sword not a fist, whoopsie.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:13 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Who needs a flamer when you can't get tied up in close combat and you have the ability to stomp on infantry with your feet?



I'd probably drop the vox caster, power fist, and power axes. See if that gets you enough points for a heavy weapon team in one of the squads. Maybe heavy bolter, mortar or autocanon.
Cheers ill give that a go

edit: Oh made a mistake the commander has a power sword not a fist, whoopsie.


My take is regular guard, outside of catchan, should not be in close combat. Far better to back off and let someone else do the shooting. Points spent on close combat are points not spent on range weapons.

I keep wanting to take vox casters, but they don't buy enough for their cost. Maybe if they had unlimited range, but sadly only cadian gets that for a command point.

But that's just my take.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:43 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Cheers ill give that a go

edit: Oh made a mistake the commander has a power sword not a fist, whoopsie.


My take is regular guard, outside of catchan, should not be in close combat. Far better to back off and let someone else do the shooting. Points spent on close combat are points not spent on range weapons.

I keep wanting to take vox casters, but they don't buy enough for their cost. Maybe if they had unlimited range, but sadly only cadian gets that for a command point.

But that's just my take.

The main reason i wanted to give the sergeants better melee weapons is just as a last resort honestly in case they do end up getting charged and im not able to whittle down the attacking ork units. I dont plan on getting into melee if i can help it but it might help if one of the guardsmen can actually stand a chance of killing something, and it helps get me closer to 500 points exactly so that im not "wasting" points that could be at least put into something even if its not a priority.

Ive got another list ive been tinkering with for going up against my friends marines as i imagine i will be fighting both over the course of our gaming session tomorrow. Its largely the same minus the Astropath which i have swapped out for some heavy weapons and some wargear changes for the infantry.


HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord](Laspistol + Chainsword), Laurels of Command, War Lord Trait: Draconian Discipline

Troops:
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Plasma gun + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Plasma Pistol and chainsword
-Infantry Squad [10 man] (Plasma gun + Vox Caster) Sergeant w/ Plasma Pistol and chainsword
-Tempestus Scions [5 Man] (Hotshot Volley Gun + Plasma Gun] Tempestor w/ Plasma Pistol and Power Fist


Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Lascannon, x2 Sponson Heavy Bolters) Tace Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful, Wargear: Track Guards
-Heavy Weapons Squad [3 Autocannons]

Total Points: 498. Regimental Doctrine Vostroyan.

I picked Vostroyan simply to get some range bonuses as last time i fought the marines some of their units were able to out range me and i had to get into the open a bit before i could get most of my shots off as i was attacking. So i figure if im attacking again i wont have to advance as much and if im defending i can shoot them a bit further off. Though i might switch it to Disciplined Shooters like the list against the Orks mainly because double attacks for rapid fire weapons under 18 inches could be pretty handy vs marines too. I brought one squad of Scions with me just to have some deadlier weapons (and i might make it two plasma guns instead of a hotshot volley gun) but they wont get the regimental bonuses so i might swap them out for more guardsmen or maybe a special weapons gunner squad and might take away the vox casters to get more points too.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:45 am

Ive also thought about a potential all scions army against the marines but not sure how it would fare honestly.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:39 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ive also thought about a potential all scions army against the marines but not sure how it would fare honestly.

Scions are fun, especially if you have a Valk. I've more then once dropped two all plasma squads with a scion commander to do a turn of doom. They immediately die, but the look on your opponents face for a turn of plasma.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:45 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ive also thought about a potential all scions army against the marines but not sure how it would fare honestly.

Scions are fun, especially if you have a Valk. I've more then once dropped two all plasma squads with a scion commander to do a turn of doom. They immediately die, but the look on your opponents face for a turn of plasma.

I do have a valkyrie! But its not finished though and i dont have anything safe to transport it atm so it will be a future project and then i will incorporate it into a scions list as i have a few squads of them ive collected the last two years.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:32 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I would like to get a Knight at some point in the future, mainly as a display piece but so i could also attach into a guard army for a larger battle.

Those things are the WH40K equivalent of a BattleMech, which usually means they are an absolute horror to behold for swarms of enemy infantry. Do Knights come with flamers, by the way?

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ac ... ame_Cannon

Yup!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:39 am

Re-tailored my guard lists for today's games and took on the feedback Spirit of Hope gave me removing the Vox Casters and Sergeant melee weapons, adding in a heavy weapons team to one squad for the list against the Orks. Ill make a post either tonight or tomorrow about how the games went.

498 Points. Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon.

HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord] (Plasma Pistol + Power Fist), Laurels of Command, Warlord Trait: Draconian Discipline

TROOPS:
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Flamer), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Flamer), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Infantry Squad [8 Man +HWT] (Grenade Launcher), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol, Heavy Weapons Team (Missile Launcher)

ELITES:
-Astropath [Psychic Maelstrom] (Laspistol), Smite. Astral Divination, Psychic Assault.

Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Hull Lascannon, two Sponson Heavy Bolters), Tank Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful. Vehicle Equipment: Trackguards.


498 Points. Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon.

HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord] (Plasma Pistol + Chainsword), Laurels of Command, Warlord Trait: Draconian Discipline

TROOPS:
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Plasma Gun), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Plasma Gun), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Tempestus Scions [5 Man] (Plasma Gun + Hotshot Volley Gun), Tempestor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol

Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Hull Lascannon, two Sponson Heavy Bolters), Tank Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful. Vehicle Equipment: Auger Array.
-Heavy Weapons Squad [Three Weapon Unit] (Lascannon, Autocannon, Autocannon)
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:09 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Re-tailored my guard lists for today's games and took on the feedback Spirit of Hope gave me removing the Vox Casters and Sergeant melee weapons, adding in a heavy weapons team to one squad for the list against the Orks. Ill make a post either tonight or tomorrow about how the games went.

498 Points. Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon.

HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord] (Plasma Pistol + Power Fist), Laurels of Command, Warlord Trait: Draconian Discipline

TROOPS:
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Flamer), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Flamer), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Infantry Squad [8 Man +HWT] (Grenade Launcher), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol, Heavy Weapons Team (Missile Launcher)

ELITES:
-Astropath [Psychic Maelstrom] (Laspistol), Smite. Astral Divination, Psychic Assault.

Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Hull Lascannon, two Sponson Heavy Bolters), Tank Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful. Vehicle Equipment: Trackguards.


498 Points. Regimental Doctrine: Armageddon.

HQ:
-Company Commander [Warlord] (Plasma Pistol + Chainsword), Laurels of Command, Warlord Trait: Draconian Discipline

TROOPS:
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Plasma Gun), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Infantry Squad [10 Man] (Plasma Gun), Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol.
-Tempestus Scions [5 Man] (Plasma Gun + Hotshot Volley Gun), Tempestor with Power Fist and Plasma Pistol

Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank [Tank Ace] (Battle Cannon, Storm Bolter, Hull Lascannon, two Sponson Heavy Bolters), Tank Ace Ability: Slow and Purposeful. Vehicle Equipment: Auger Array.
-Heavy Weapons Squad [Three Weapon Unit] (Lascannon, Autocannon, Autocannon)
My mate only played his orks and i Lost both games lmao but doesnt matter had fun. Unexpectedly he brought out Ghazkull in our first game. Yeah i thought that was a bit much for a 500 point game and he was devastating but hey i almost killed him, knocked him down to three wounds. Highlight of the first match was my Company Commander killing three storm boyz by himself with his power fist, that was neat. Highlight of the second match was my heavy weapons team killing an entire Ork Boy squad in one volley right after they disembarked from their battle wagon.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:00 am

Warhammer Day Sunday Previews:

KHANNNNNNNNNNN! KHANNNNNNNNN! Ahem, Khan finally has his primarch model. Rejoice.

Shadow Throne Battle box featuring Genestealer Cults and Adeptus Custodes with two new models, an Adeptus Custodes Blade Champion and a GSC Reductus Saboteur (Another leak confirmed) and new codexes for both armies.

Age of Sigmar: New Maggotkin of Nurgle Codex and a new Nurgle Sorcerer

A spin off game of Bloodbowl called Dungeonbowl is back with a new edition

Warcry gets a new box set called Red Harvest with two chaos war bands (The Spider Men and Marauders ive linked before) with scenery, books etc

And a new Warhammer Underworlds warband for Harrowdeep called Blackpowders Buccaneers which is an Ogre Pirate and Gnoblar/critter crew
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Postby Herador » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:52 am

Oh shit, they made a David Bowie model.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:29 am

Printing a new leman russ proxy fuck yeah lets goooo- and the KV-2 style turret stopped printing properly after five hours

Fuck.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:08 am

So no plastic Thunderhawk?

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:18 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Warhammer Day Sunday Previews:

KHANNNNNNNNNNN! KHANNNNNNNNN! Ahem, Khan finally has his primarch model. Rejoice.

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY RUIN JAGHATAI??? IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF THE PLINKETT: WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FACE???
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The Huskar Social Union wrote:
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About freaking time.
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Ameriganastan wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
KHANNNNNNNNNNN! KHANNNNNNNNN! Ahem, Khan finally has his primarch model. Rejoice.

About freaking time.

They fucked up the face, not much to be excited for.
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Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:About freaking time.

They fucked up the face, not much to be excited for.

Looks fine to me.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:41 am

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Impaled Nazarene wrote:They fucked up the face, not much to be excited for.

Looks fine to me.

Pretty much the basic human face in Warhammer, really.


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Postby Herador » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:31 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Looks fine to me.

Pretty much the basic human face in Warhammer, really.

GW has never been able to do faces.
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Had a large team game of WFB on Saturday and got to try out my general. It got a stuck in the far right flank and lost some time getting back, but it still destroyed a unit of Skeletal Horsemen, a Slaughtermaster with unit of Bulls, 2 Bonegiants and a lone leftover Tomb Chariot. Slaughtermaster and Bulls got wiped out when the fled the charge and were caught, everything else was in combat.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:08 am

Jetan wrote:Had a large team game of WFB on Saturday and got to try out my general. It got a stuck in the far right flank and lost some time getting back, but it still destroyed a unit of Skeletal Horsemen, a Slaughtermaster with unit of Bulls, 2 Bonegiants and a lone leftover Tomb Chariot. Slaughtermaster and Bulls got wiped out when the fled the charge and were caught, everything else was in combat.

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