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Postby Tethys 13 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:35 am

My box of Idoneth was supposed to arrive on the 24th, but has yet to, and when I checked out the item on the seller's page, they had put a note saying that they would be away until the 4th of January. That note was not there when I made my order.
I am not impressed, and it has but a bit of a wrench in my plans for the next few weeks.

Edit: And now I have to take that all back, as it has just arrived. Feel free to shower me with humiliation for my whining.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:35 pm

Crookfur wrote:40k is basically LOTR in space except everything is on fire, the elves really don't want to sail to west, the orcs simply don't give a fuck about anything but fighting, the dwarves disappeared in mysterious circumstances and there are a few other races who simply want to kill or eat everybody.

Ultimately its the story of mankind at a turning point, they dominate the galaxy and will either save the universe or cause its utter destruction as the ultimate doom, chaos, is largely shaped by mankind and its most powerful actors are "human".


And everyone is eventually going to be eaten by space locusts.

Who've been surprisingly inactive in the time skip, come to think of it. Have they really eaten nothing important since the rift opened?

Tethys 13 wrote:My box of Idoneth was supposed to arrive on the 24th, but has yet to, and when I checked out the item on the seller's page, they had put a note saying that they would be away until the 4th of January. That note was not there when I made my order.
I am not impressed, and it has but a bit of a wrench in my plans for the next few weeks.

Edit: And now I have to take that all back, as it has just arrived. Feel free to shower me with humiliation for my whining.


Haha, Tethys had a perfectly reasonable whinge on the internet and then the situation was amicably resolved. Everyone laugh at him! :D
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:17 am

Chan Island wrote:
Crookfur wrote:40k is basically LOTR in space except everything is on fire, the elves really don't want to sail to west, the orcs simply don't give a fuck about anything but fighting, the dwarves disappeared in mysterious circumstances and there are a few other races who simply want to kill or eat everybody.

Ultimately its the story of mankind at a turning point, they dominate the galaxy and will either save the universe or cause its utter destruction as the ultimate doom, chaos, is largely shaped by mankind and its most powerful actors are "human".


And everyone is eventually going to be eaten by space locusts.

Who've been surprisingly inactive in the time skip, come to think of it. Have they really eaten nothing important since the rift opened?


Just like Eldar will always be "a dying race" without actually dying out, the Swarm Fleets will always be "arriving in the galaxy" without actually arriving.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:02 pm

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Chan Island wrote:
And everyone is eventually going to be eaten by space locusts.

Who've been surprisingly inactive in the time skip, come to think of it. Have they really eaten nothing important since the rift opened?


Just like Eldar will always be "a dying race" without actually dying out, the Swarm Fleets will always be "arriving in the galaxy" without actually arriving.


"There are as many elves as the plot demands." - Gav Thorpe

Chan Island wrote:Haha, Tethys had a perfectly reasonable whinge on the internet and then the situation was amicably resolved. Everyone laugh at him! :D


Heh, this made me smile.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:28 pm

Tethys 13 wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:Just like Eldar will always be "a dying race" without actually dying out, the Swarm Fleets will always be "arriving in the galaxy" without actually arriving.

"There are as many elves as the plot demands." - Gav Thorpe

Seriously. Murderfuck a Chaos God into existence only once and they never let you live it down. The Eldar are not the punchline of the universe, so stop threating them as such!


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Postby Tethys 13 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:32 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:Seriously. Murderfuck a Chaos God into existence only once and they never let you live it down. The Eldar are not the punchline of the universe, so stop threating them as such!


Yeah, who says they cannot bounce back? Surely there must be some pointy-eared researcher somewhere trying to restore the reproductive capabilities of the Eldar. They cannot all just be mooning around self-pityingly or drowning in drugs.

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I finished my first Namarti Thrall for my Shadow Over Innsmouth-inspired Idoneth Deepkin. The lore idea for them is that they started worshipping a Slann (hence the star-design), which began to be altered by their worship, and started altering them in turn. Please tell me what you think, and if you have any suggestions for improvement I would greatly appreciate them!

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:24 pm

Its an interesting conversion, i dig it.


Ive started to assemble my Baneblade, going with a default loadout with the standard cannon. I thought about magnetising the thing but i dont really have a lot of experience in doing that (outside of putting some magnets on the bases of minis for some cases i modified) and dont wana risk fucking something up.
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Postby Danubian Peoples » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:50 am

Tethys 13 wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Seriously. Murderfuck a Chaos God into existence only once and they never let you live it down. The Eldar are not the punchline of the universe, so stop threating them as such!


Yeah, who says they cannot bounce back? Surely there must be some pointy-eared researcher somewhere trying to restore the reproductive capabilities of the Eldar. They cannot all just be mooning around self-pityingly or drowning in drugs.

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I finished my first Namarti Thrall for my Shadow Over Innsmouth-inspired Idoneth Deepkin. The lore idea for them is that they started worshipping a Slann (hence the star-design), which began to be altered by their worship, and started altering them in turn. Please tell me what you think, and if you have any suggestions for improvement I would greatly appreciate them!

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Nice models! Unfamiliar with the lore or whatever behind them, but I must say they look fantastic!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:43 am

Built my Baneblade. God she is a big model.


This will take a long time to paint but im looking forward to it
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:36 pm


Funny, I didn't even know that there used to be a WH40K CCG. Not that this surprises me, I used to buy packs of the Doomtrooper CCG ages ago. There also was a BattleTech CCG, come to think of it. Hell, many gaming company tried to cash in on the craze started by Magic: The Gathering. Very few actually continued to do so in the long run, though. In the end it were the anime franchises who actually managed to stay afloat besides M:tG until this very day, such as Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Not even the Star Trek and Star Wars CCG's managed to do that.


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Postby Crookfur » Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:05 pm


Nope but I do have the 2nd gen space marines combat cards set kicking around somewhere...

Yeah I think the ccgs based off existing Western scifi/fantasy largely failed as despite there being a bit of cross over between mtg and wargamming/rping enthusiasts there was a larger mutual dislike between the fan bases and both sides disliked and were on turn disliked by the anime fans. Or something like that, players were much more tribal about their chosen universes at the turn of the millennium, I remember being regarded as being a bit weird for liking both 40k and battletech. Things are obviously different now thanks to the much wider exposure to different games.

Anyway just when I though I might be getting over the desire to make a "different" IG regiment I find these: https://wargamesatlantic.com/collection ... 8987519074 and my first thought is, "I wonder what they would look like with cadian arms on them or would I just glue lasgun bits on the bakers...
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Postby Baltenstein » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:17 am

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Nope but I do have the 2nd gen space marines combat cards set kicking around somewhere...

Yeah I think the ccgs based off existing Western scifi/fantasy largely failed as despite there being a bit of cross over between mtg and wargamming/rping enthusiasts there was a larger mutual dislike between the fan bases and both sides disliked and were on turn disliked by the anime fans. Or something like that, players were much more tribal about their chosen universes at the turn of the millennium, I remember being regarded as being a bit weird for liking both 40k and battletech. Things are obviously different now thanks to the much wider exposure to different games.

Anyway just when I though I might be getting over the desire to make a "different" IG regiment I find these: https://wargamesatlantic.com/collection ... 8987519074 and my first thought is, "I wonder what they would look like with cadian arms on them or would I just glue lasgun bits on the bakers...


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If I weren't already building up a custom regiment with these, I'd definitely do Sharpe's Rifles in Space.
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Postby Tokuopolis » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:25 am

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Funny, I didn't even know that there used to be a WH40K CCG. Not that this surprises me, I used to buy packs of the Doomtrooper CCG ages ago. There also was a BattleTech CCG, come to think of it. Hell, many gaming company tried to cash in on the craze started by Magic: The Gathering. Very few actually continued to do so in the long run, though. In the end it were the anime franchises who actually managed to stay afloat besides M:tG until this very day, such as Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Not even the Star Trek and Star Wars CCG's managed to do that.


Crookfur wrote:

Nope but I do have the 2nd gen space marines combat cards set kicking around somewhere...

Yeah I think the ccgs based off existing Western scifi/fantasy largely failed as despite there being a bit of cross over between mtg and wargamming/rping enthusiasts there was a larger mutual dislike between the fan bases and both sides disliked and were on turn disliked by the anime fans. Or something like that, players were much more tribal about their chosen universes at the turn of the millennium, I remember being regarded as being a bit weird for liking both 40k and battletech. Things are obviously different now thanks to the much wider exposure to different games.


Yeah, there were 3 successive attempts at WH40K CCG. The first one was just called the CCG, the 2nd was Horus Heresy and the 3rd was Dark Millennium.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:38 am

My second Thrall, if anyone is interested - I tried glazing the skin with metallic paint at the end rather than mixing metallic paint into each layer.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:58 am

Tokuopolis wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Funny, I didn't even know that there used to be a WH40K CCG. Not that this surprises me, I used to buy packs of the Doomtrooper CCG ages ago. There also was a BattleTech CCG, come to think of it. Hell, many gaming company tried to cash in on the craze started by Magic: The Gathering. Very few actually continued to do so in the long run, though. In the end it were the anime franchises who actually managed to stay afloat besides M:tG until this very day, such as Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Not even the Star Trek and Star Wars CCG's managed to do that.


Crookfur wrote:Nope but I do have the 2nd gen space marines combat cards set kicking around somewhere...

Yeah I think the ccgs based off existing Western scifi/fantasy largely failed as despite there being a bit of cross over between mtg and wargamming/rping enthusiasts there was a larger mutual dislike between the fan bases and both sides disliked and were on turn disliked by the anime fans. Or something like that, players were much more tribal about their chosen universes at the turn of the millennium, I remember being regarded as being a bit weird for liking both 40k and battletech. Things are obviously different now thanks to the much wider exposure to different games.


Yeah, there were 3 successive attempts at WH40K CCG. The first one was just called the CCG, the 2nd was Horus Heresy and the 3rd was Dark Millennium.

And then there is the online card game Horus Heresy Legions.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:06 pm

Tethys 13 wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Seriously. Murderfuck a Chaos God into existence only once and they never let you live it down. The Eldar are not the punchline of the universe, so stop threating them as such!


Yeah, who says they cannot bounce back? Surely there must be some pointy-eared researcher somewhere trying to restore the reproductive capabilities of the Eldar. They cannot all just be mooning around self-pityingly or drowning in drugs.

Edit:

I finished my first Namarti Thrall for my Shadow Over Innsmouth-inspired Idoneth Deepkin. The lore idea for them is that they started worshipping a Slann (hence the star-design), which began to be altered by their worship, and started altering them in turn. Please tell me what you think, and if you have any suggestions for improvement I would greatly appreciate them!

Image


Your models are excellent as always. Your glazing technique idea is a curious one, and I'd love to see where you go with it and develop it.

As per the story... I dunno, maybe I just expect a high standard, but I'm not super enthused by your lore for these guys.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:08 pm

I really like the definition in the Muscles, looks good.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:42 pm

Chan Island wrote:Your models are excellent as always. Your glazing technique idea is a curious one, and I'd love to see where you go with it and develop it.

As per the story... I dunno, maybe I just expect a high standard, but I'm not super enthused by your lore for these guys.


That is likely because this was a case where I took inspiration from outside Warhammer for the visual design of an army, and then just tried to loosely justify it in-lore, rather than what I usually do which is think up an interesting lore for an army from my knowledge of the Warhammer universe and then start working out their design. That is primarily because this is the first time I have purchased models for Age of Sigmar, and I have not been following the lore of that game system at all, because I am a bitter old individual still annoyed about the discontinuation of my largest army in old Fantasy. I will put some more thought into it.

Thank you all for the compliments! I sent the images to my local store manager and they said it could do with more colour, so I am experimenting with a nebula-effect on the blades instead of the muted verdigris, but at the moment it is just looking like a mess.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:02 am

Tethys 13 wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Your models are excellent as always. Your glazing technique idea is a curious one, and I'd love to see where you go with it and develop it.

As per the story... I dunno, maybe I just expect a high standard, but I'm not super enthused by your lore for these guys.


That is likely because this was a case where I took inspiration from outside Warhammer for the visual design of an army, and then just tried to loosely justify it in-lore, rather than what I usually do which is think up an interesting lore for an army from my knowledge of the Warhammer universe and then start working out their design. That is primarily because this is the first time I have purchased models for Age of Sigmar, and I have not been following the lore of that game system at all, because I am a bitter old individual still annoyed about the discontinuation of my largest army in old Fantasy. I will put some more thought into it.

Thank you all for the compliments! I sent the images to my local store manager and they said it could do with more colour, so I am experimenting with a nebula-effect on the blades instead of the muted verdigris, but at the moment it is just looking like a mess.


Makes sense. I guess all I can say then is keep tinkering. Completely agree with you on Fantasy though.

Store manager's advice is always best taken with a pinch of salt. I got that exact advice when I asked about my night-fighter Tau. Because, you know, Tau and Gue'vesa soldiers kitted out for a battle in pitch darkness are gonna want some of those bright colours.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:17 pm

Valkyrie assembled bar the cockpit frame, gona leave it till the very end and then glue it on. Was originally going to leave the rear hatch open and paint the inside but then my brain said "fuck that" and now its sealed up.

Also assembled that limited edition sister mini Tariana Palos and she is gona be the first miniature i paint this year. Only sister of Battle i have so im going to take my time with her and do her up nice.

Was planning on black armour, Orange cloth and silver and Bronze iconography with maybe a few touches of Red or Gold.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:06 am

Idly browsing Imgur, and suddenly... surprise Ctan Shard of the Void Dragon!


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Hurdergaryp wrote:Idly browsing Imgur, and suddenly... surprise Ctan Shard of the Void Dragon!
Such a cool model.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:26 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:Idly browsing Imgur, and suddenly... surprise Ctan Shard of the Void Dragon!

Where is dragon?
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