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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:50 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:As much as I love Khorne enjoying both berserkers and honorable warriors I really wish there were more warriors that indulged in both (aside from Kharn) and warriors that "teased" Khorne. I really like it when a mortal impresses a Chaos God and gets gifts of powers bestowed upon them to try and persuade them to swear fealty. Show me a morally-grey character (by 40k standards that is) with the favor of Khorne who while ruthless and violent is also just and cunning.


I am told that Kharn, of all people, is actually portrayed that way in his BL novels. Outside of combat, he is a jaded philosopher, refuses to harm non-combatants and has been systematically scheming against other Khorne champions to eventually unite the World Eaters legion under his banner again.

Kharn is the best exception to ever grace 40k.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:59 am

But wait there's more.

Im not a Necron person but i love this:

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:04 am

So we've got our Primaris replacement for the Attack Trike?

And with added BRRRRRRRRRRRRT too.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:15 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:But wait there's more.

Im not a Necron person but i love this:


Punches Ward in the fucking face
I JUST WANT THE NECRONS
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:25 am

I know it's not 40K, but I just wanted to share the amusing fact of Graham McNeill writing a story full of fart jokes for League Of Legends.

That just tickles me.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:21 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:But wait there's more.

Im not a Necron person but i love this:


Punches Ward in the fucking face
I JUST WANT THE NECRONS

The Cryptothralls are pretty neat.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:22 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Punches Ward in the fucking face
I JUST WANT THE NECRONS

The Cryptothralls are pretty neat.

MURDER BUCKETS

Adorable little Murder Buckets

I think all the new necron stuff looks good for the most part.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:08 pm


Skorpekh Lord might be my favorite model ever.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:05 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Skorpekh Lord might be my favorite model ever.

It is pretty sick looking. And that's coming from me, who is generally indifferent to the Necrons.
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Postby Tethys 13 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:50 pm

I am not too sure about the new damaged aesthetic of the Necrons, since part of their concept I liked was the liquid regenerating metal that could restore them from shattered to pristine, and the idea of their old 'phase-out' mechanic was that if they were too heavily damaged they would teleport out for more serious repair. That does not work at all with their new look, making me think that it is another thing about them that they have scrapped. In fact, I do not recall seeing any Reanimation Protocols within the trailer, making the Necrons just look like easily-smashed robots. They came off pretty badly in that trailer overall.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:22 am

Tethys 13 wrote:I am not too sure about the new damaged aesthetic of the Necrons, since part of their concept I liked was the liquid regenerating metal that could restore them from shattered to pristine, and the idea of their old 'phase-out' mechanic was that if they were too heavily damaged they would teleport out for more serious repair. That does not work at all with their new look, making me think that it is another thing about them that they have scrapped. In fact, I do not recall seeing any Reanimation Protocols within the trailer, making the Necrons just look like easily-smashed robots. They came off pretty badly in that trailer overall.

That would be a rather massive retcon, undoubtedly fueled by the tears of defeated Ultramarines players.


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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:16 am

I wouldn't think too much of it. Even back in 3rd Edition CSM were decorating their vehicles with impaled Necron skulls even though that should have been technically impossible too.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:17 am

Tethys 13 wrote:I am not too sure about the new damaged aesthetic of the Necrons, since part of their concept I liked was the liquid regenerating metal that could restore them from shattered to pristine, and the idea of their old 'phase-out' mechanic was that if they were too heavily damaged they would teleport out for more serious repair. That does not work at all with their new look, making me think that it is another thing about them that they have scrapped. In fact, I do not recall seeing any Reanimation Protocols within the trailer, making the Necrons just look like easily-smashed robots. They came off pretty badly in that trailer overall.

I think its a dynasty thing. Would not surprise me if there were dynasties out there who liked the grizzled beat up war machine aesthetic.

But I do hate the fact that the trailer shows warriors being scrapped by one burst of a Sister's Bolter like not even a Primaris Bolter should be able to fell a mere Warrior. That trailer was just Wardian wankery when in reality the Smurfs and sisters are but dust at that point.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:59 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Tethys 13 wrote:I am not too sure about the new damaged aesthetic of the Necrons, since part of their concept I liked was the liquid regenerating metal that could restore them from shattered to pristine, and the idea of their old 'phase-out' mechanic was that if they were too heavily damaged they would teleport out for more serious repair. That does not work at all with their new look, making me think that it is another thing about them that they have scrapped. In fact, I do not recall seeing any Reanimation Protocols within the trailer, making the Necrons just look like easily-smashed robots. They came off pretty badly in that trailer overall.

I think its a dynasty thing. Would not surprise me if there were dynasties out there who liked the grizzled beat up war machine aesthetic.

But I do hate the fact that the trailer shows warriors being scrapped by one burst of a Sister's Bolter like not even a Primaris Bolter should be able to fell a mere Warrior. That trailer was just Wardian wankery when in reality the Smurfs and sisters are but dust at that point.

But we cannot have that, for the Imperium fanpersons need their daily fix of Human Supremacy.


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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:15 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Tethys 13 wrote:I am not too sure about the new damaged aesthetic of the Necrons, since part of their concept I liked was the liquid regenerating metal that could restore them from shattered to pristine, and the idea of their old 'phase-out' mechanic was that if they were too heavily damaged they would teleport out for more serious repair. That does not work at all with their new look, making me think that it is another thing about them that they have scrapped. In fact, I do not recall seeing any Reanimation Protocols within the trailer, making the Necrons just look like easily-smashed robots. They came off pretty badly in that trailer overall.

That would be a rather massive retcon, undoubtedly fueled by the tears of defeated Ultramarines players.


Unlikely. Necrons as they are aren't great. Reincarnation protocols in particular aren't that great given you can remove them from play just by killing the unit.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:21 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Tethys 13 wrote:I am not too sure about the new damaged aesthetic of the Necrons, since part of their concept I liked was the liquid regenerating metal that could restore them from shattered to pristine, and the idea of their old 'phase-out' mechanic was that if they were too heavily damaged they would teleport out for more serious repair. That does not work at all with their new look, making me think that it is another thing about them that they have scrapped. In fact, I do not recall seeing any Reanimation Protocols within the trailer, making the Necrons just look like easily-smashed robots. They came off pretty badly in that trailer overall.

That would be a rather massive retcon, undoubtedly fueled by the tears of defeated Ultramarines players.

The thing is though, there are no retcons in 40k only shit that gets forgotten about, legends, or phased out in universe.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:44 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:That would be a rather massive retcon, undoubtedly fueled by the tears of defeated Ultramarines players.

The thing is though, there are no retcons in 40k only shit that gets forgotten about, legends, or phased out in universe.

And the Squats got eaten by the Tyranid, apparently.


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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:45 pm

I mean, the Necrons apparently lose themselves a little with each death. Maybe they're forgetting how to regenerate.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:15 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:I mean, the Necrons apparently lose themselves a little with each death. Maybe they're forgetting how to regenerate.

Regeneration is pretty much a default setting for Necrons, isn't it?


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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:26 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I mean, the Necrons apparently lose themselves a little with each death. Maybe they're forgetting how to regenerate.

Regeneration is pretty much a default setting for Necrons, isn't it?

Maybe it's breaking down then? I mean the Necrons have been puttering about the universe for like, ever. No machine works forever. Might just be they're out of regens. Like the homunculi from Fullmetal Alchemist when they exhaust their stones.
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Postby Crookfur » Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:24 pm

For "new" necrons to be battered and worn they would have to have seen a lot of combat since they reawakened, went into stasis already battered (a possibility) or had their tombs more than just mildly buggered up. Considering humans have been accidentally messing with tomb worlds since at least as far back as the birth of the primarchs all three are possible.

Of course now that cawl appears to know how to control a lot of necron tech (to the point of freeing a ctan shard) one has to wonder what shenanigans await...
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:03 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Regeneration is pretty much a default setting for Necrons, isn't it?

Maybe it's breaking down then? I mean the Necrons have been puttering about the universe for like, ever. No machine works forever. Might just be they're out of regens. Like the homunculi from Fullmetal Alchemist when they exhaust their stones.

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Postby Jetan » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:07 pm

And just like that, all tentative positivity I still had towards the next edition went flying out the window with the overwatch change. Guess I'll just go back to 5th or 7th edition then.
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Postby Chan Island » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:33 am

Jetan wrote:And just like that, all tentative positivity I still had towards the next edition went flying out the window with the overwatch change. Guess I'll just go back to 5th or 7th edition then.


I'm just going to pretend this edition hasn't happened for now tbh. Don't play that often with people all lawyered up on the rules anyway, and care far more about the story than power gaming.

And this is a comprehensively stupid change.
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