The Warhammer 40.000/Fantasy Discussion Thread Mk.III

[Dylar]

Why not both?

...curse you and your filthy templar logic

[Baltenstein]

Also, the sword is stupid.

For me, the rules are just what I was looking for. Streamlined, easy to learn, hard to master. With a couple of exceptions for unique characters, the same special rule names apply across all the factions. Gameplay is primarily about positioning and outflanking but there is of course enough variety for a unique playstyle for every different faction (some factions are good with terrain, others with shooting, others with cheap cannon fodder etc). Models are definitely getting better (just compare their new Chaos Dwarfs with their old Dwarfs)...

...but you can use whatever models you want anyways. Most of my gaming group has repurposed their old WHFB armies for KoW.

Interesting. How are Dark elves in KoW, crunch wise?

Elves in general are pretty good (they were downright OP in 2nd Edi and had to be nerfed a bit). There are - naturally - 3 Elf factions in KoW, with the Dark and Wood Elves being themed variations of the High Elf list. The Dark Elf specialty is access to Abyssal (Chaos Daemons equivalent, good in close combat) and Nighstalker (lovecraftian horrors, get additional protection from shooting) units, with individual summoner crones (Dark Elf sorceresses) lending them support from behind. The three unique Dark Elf units adapted most directly from WHFB are Assassins, Blade Dancers (Witch Elves) and Impalers (Har Ganeth executioners). The main strategy revolves around sending a first wave of expendable Daemons and/or Night Stalkers at the enemy and then follow it up with a finishing second wave of Dark Elf close combat units, while archers and ballistae give fire support.
Personally, I think the Dark Elf list is slightly weaker than the pure Elf list, but there's really no problem with playing WHFB Dark Elves with the normal Elf ist (that also includes stuff like Chariots, Dragon riders and heavy cavalry).

[Hurdergaryp]

The sword is the only thing I like about the model, I adore Executioner's swords. Not exactly the most practical for combat, but they can still be quite brutal.

Yeah, but they're specifically designed to capitate a stationary victim and not for combat. Admittedly it's somewhat silly thing to gripe about considering impracticality is pretty much an integral part of 40K, but still.

Write a sternly worded formal complaint about the lack of realism in Warhammer 40K. Surely Games Workshop shall see the many errors of its way.

[Crookfur]

Yeah, but they're specifically designed to capitate a stationary victim and not for combat. Admittedly it's somewhat silly thing to gripe about considering impracticality is pretty much an integral part of 40K, but still.

Write a sternly worded formal complaint about the lack of realism in Warhammer 40K. Surely Games Workshop shall see the many errors of its way.

Just like they did when people used to write in and complain about why we had the leman and not something that looked like a t-72 or merkava...
"Creative heroic scale money machine goes bbbrrrrrr"

[The Huskar Social Union]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

[Tethys 13]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I need to know this too actually, I have a lot of white to paint and planned to go Grey Seer Spray - Celestra Grey Base - Agrax Earthshade wash - Ulthuan Grey layer - White Scar Highlight, and I have been worried that I might be shooting myself in the foot.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I need to know this too actually, I have a lot of white to paint and planned to go Grey Seer Spray - Celestra Grey Base - Agrax Earthshade wash - Ulthuan Grey layer - White Scar Highlight, and I have been worried that I might be shooting myself in the foot.

My brother told me it should be fine after i posted on here about it.

Also thats pretty much the same idea i had for my Paint scheme i wanted to apply to my Valhallans. I went a way from my zandri dust scheme as i thought it was gona look to samey to the Cadians ive got.

Speaking of my Cadians ive got most of them done now, few finishing touches to the last squad and then just to do the tank, commissar, command squad and a heavy weapons team.

[Vassenor]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I can't see why it wouldn't. I've used grey automotive primer for models in the past without issue.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I can't see why it wouldn't. I've used grey automotive primer for models in the past without issue.

Cool, thanks Vass

[Crookfur]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I can't see why it wouldn't. I've used grey automotive primer for models in the past without issue.

Yeah halfords to be the place to get your cheap undercoat.

The "contrast" under coats just give a nice smooth finish thats closer to a brushed on "two thin coats" than the sometimes fairly granular effect some spray primers give. IIRC there are a few non gw primers that give a similar finish that also work quite well for contrast.

[Vassenor]

I can't see why it wouldn't. I've used grey automotive primer for models in the past without issue.

Yeah halfords to be the place to get your cheap undercoat.

The "contrast" under coats just give a nice smooth finish thats closer to a brushed on "two thin coats" than the sometimes fairly granular effect some spray primers give. IIRC there are a few non gw primers that give a similar finish that also work quite well for contrast.

I mean you want a slightly granular finish for primer normally. Helps it act as a key for the topcoat.

[Vassenor]

OK so I might be gearing up for an Imperial Fists 5th Company army after all. Even if the indecision is still eating me.

[The Huskar Social Union]

OK so I might be gearing up for an Imperial Fists 5th Company army after all. Even if the indecision is still eating me.

Let me know how painting yellow goes.

[Crookfur]

Jeez just realised how crap the inquisition mini codex from WD actually is.

If you want more than just the inquisitor then you have to use a vanguard detachment and there is no option assign them dedicated transport...

Yes they can hitch a lift in any imperial transport but it would be nice to give the detachment its own rhino or land raider. Also the way acolytes are handled sucks as other than a jokero or demon host they are all the same.

I know old news...

On a happier note got all my old stuff from my folks today, many evenings of sorting stuff lie ahead. Anyone looking for 54mm inquisitor or old school necromuda stuff?

[Tethys 13]

Jeez just realised how crap the inquisition mini codex from WD actually is.

If you want more than just the inquisitor then you have to use a vanguard detachment and there is no option assign them dedicated transport...

Yes they can hitch a lift in any imperial transport but it would be nice to give the detachment its own rhino or land raider. Also the way acolytes are handled sucks as other than a jokero or demon host they are all the same.

I know old news...

On a happier note got all my old stuff from my folks today, many evenings of sorting stuff lie ahead. Anyone looking for 54mm inquisitor or old school necromuda stuff?

Do you have a Thorian Inquisitor? I am not looking to acquire one, but it was my favourite miniature from that specialist game's range, even if those feather-poles looked stupid.

[Crookfur]

Jeez just realised how crap the inquisition mini codex from WD actually is.

If you want more than just the inquisitor then you have to use a vanguard detachment and there is no option assign them dedicated transport...

Yes they can hitch a lift in any imperial transport but it would be nice to give the detachment its own rhino or land raider. Also the way acolytes are handled sucks as other than a jokero or demon host they are all the same.

I know old news...

On a happier note got all my old stuff from my folks today, many evenings of sorting stuff lie ahead. Anyone looking for 54mm inquisitor or old school necromuda stuff?

Do you have a Thorian Inquisitor? I am not looking to acquire one, but it was my favourite miniature from that specialist game's range, even if those feather-poles looked stupid.

Sadly no... turns out I had only two inq kits, inquisitor covenant and the rogue trader I was sure I had more but inquisitor was really just a passing fancy.
So 3 out of 7 bin bags down and I have a metric fckton of khorne marines, all my imp. Gaurd infantry in their horribly painted glory, a half fckton of orks inc. My never completed looted basilisk/gun wagon project, some random bfg stuff, most of my epic stuff and my pile of random.clearance blisters which include a bunch of eldar exarchs, more epic stuff and joys of joys some awesome gaurd stuff Inc. mk2 yarrick, Lord solar macaroons, some commissary, all the imperial preachers and bunch of metal systems with melta guns, a heavy flamer and a pair of canonesses. Finally 3 packs of blood angels death company marines all with 3rd edt bolters.

Definitely necromunda clearance stuff to come, moar chaos, my gaurd chimeras and tanks and a shed load of other randomness.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Another 10 cadians finished up today, thats 30 shock troops and im quite proud of the result. Got the command squad in the works now and my Valhallans are starting to make progress too after having them for like two months lol

Went on a spraying binge last few days and sprayed like 50 miniatures to get them ready. Also i have 9 Primaris Aggressors after doing a recent count, those boyos are gona be fun to paint.

[Crookfur]

Another 10 cadians finished up today, thats 30 shock troops and im quite proud of the result. Got the command squad in the works now and my Valhallans are starting to make progress too after having them for like two months lol

Went on a spraying binge last few days and sprayed like 50 miniatures to get them ready. Also i have 9 Primaris Aggressors after doing a recent count, those boyos are gona be fun to paint.

How are you doing your cadians? The straight up scheme or something different?
So far I've done one squad in my 1970s british inspired scheme and have started another squad and a platoon command squad

[The Huskar Social Union]

Another 10 cadians finished up today, thats 30 shock troops and im quite proud of the result. Got the command squad in the works now and my Valhallans are starting to make progress too after having them for like two months lol

Went on a spraying binge last few days and sprayed like 50 miniatures to get them ready. Also i have 9 Primaris Aggressors after doing a recent count, those boyos are gona be fun to paint.

How are you doing your cadians? The straight up scheme or something different?
So far I've done one squad in my 1970s british inspired scheme and have started another squad and a platoon command squad

The classic 8th Cadian scheme of Khaki Uniform and Green Armour.

I like it so thought i would stick with it. I was thinking though if i ever picked up another squad i might do them in a different scheme for a bit of variety.

I was thinking maybe a squad using a pale blueish kind of armour, maybe something like the fang. Not sure what uniform to go with it though.

[Crookfur]

So the bags from the attic saga continues, today yeilded:
5 chimeras, one crappy paint job, 3 just undercoated 1 sealed in box
2 leman russ, 1 chappy paint job, 1 undercoated annihilator
1 crap paint job basilisk
The last chances
A squad of SoB plus some seraphim.
My main chaos stuff inc 3 rhinos and a predator. Marines range from awful paint to not looking too bad ( bezerkers in a wet blood finish with lots of brass).
Necromunda wise:
1 sealed devalue gang
1 orlock gang plus a bazillion extra jukes
1 goliath gang with extra jukes and a snippy claw guy
1 Cawdor gang with extra juves
Bunch of escher juves and a few gangers (obviously juves never sold well)
Various bilsters of scavvys, beast masters etc.
My gorkamorka vehicles
1 complete copy of WFB 5th edt with some of the saurons and knights built
The rest of my epic stuff

And finally a complete copy of the original starter box for Fasa's Vor:The Maelstrom if anyone remembers that.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I'm several days late, but I've use the contrast sprays as primer and put non-contrast paints on top of them just fine.

Personally I've been keeping busy, hobby-wise, with getting everything from the Dark Uprising Necromunda set assembled, such a cool box.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Would a greyseer contrast spray work okay as a primer if i was just going to put non contrast paints on top of it?

I'm several days late, but I've use the contrast sprays as primer and put non-contrast paints on top of them just fine.

Personally I've been keeping busy, hobby-wise, with getting everything from the Dark Uprising Necromunda set assembled, such a cool box.

Thanks. Was using it for my valhallans and it seems to be doing okay so far.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I painted one of my valhallans and im really happy with how he looks. Once ive got some good quality photographs of him and my other minis i might post them on here.


But now ive got a good basis for the rest of them and can go ahead now full blast on them.

[Tethys 13]

I have finally finished the first unit of Terminators for my Space Mammoths First Company. I am calling their weapons 'Lightning Tusks' until I think of something better, though they are of course using Lightning Claw rules. The lore explanation for the different colours is that Mars keeps forgetting that they exist, so they have had to scrounge a bit from local forge worlds and thus end up with a mix of power sources. I might post images of them from different angles tomorrow, cutting out the background to each picture takes a while.
Ten down, forty plus five characters plus two dreadnoughts to go, heh heh huh *cries*

[The Huskar Social Union]

I like the use of chaos terminator helmets to fit the "space mammoth" name, well done. Also in the future if you are wanting to write on the base rim, maybe think about acquiring some coloured drawing pens. I used one last night on my Cadian standard bearer and it turned out quite well for writing "Cadia" and the regiment number of the flag.