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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:39 am
by East Gondwana
Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:49 am
by Darkmania
East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?


They havent won since 1975 (Thats 44 years ago), so they can win. But the odds can change during the contest. (Points at Cyprus shooting themselves as the favourite last year after Fuego was performed in the Semi)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:36 am
by East Gondwana
Darkmania wrote:
East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?


They havent won since 1975 (Thats 44 years ago), so they can win. But the odds can change during the contest. (Points at Cyprus shooting themselves as the favourite last year after Fuego was performed in the Semi)

Oh absolutely no doubt about it. And odds don't really start to have much clout until rehearsals start, and even then they only start to become accurate when the semis happen. But it was interesting to see that Russia has been leading the odds by a huge margin (even before releasing their song) right up until the Dutch released theirs.

And speaking of Cyprus, a lot of people seem to be hopeful for them this year too.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:01 am
by Britonisea
East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?

I like The Netherlands, I would love for the Contest to be held in Amsterdam....but I think the song, while it's excellent, is overrated. It might win in May, but hmm

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:06 pm
by Belgaam
East Gondwana wrote:Odds currently have Netherlands tipped to win, how are we feeling about that?


The Netherlands is an OK song and I actually think they will win but I'm team Kate and Z-e-e-e-e-e-ero Gr-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-avity!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:08 pm
by Borinsa
Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:10 pm
by Belgaam
Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?


Because the Israeli national broadcaster KAN is a part of the EBU, which means Israel are eligible to compete in Eurovision.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:12 pm
by Borinsa
Belgaam wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?


Because the Israeli national broadcaster KAN is a part of the EBU, which means Israel are eligible to compete in Eurovision.


Why is Israel's song in English?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:15 pm
by Borinsa
FRANCE: Bilal Hassani - Roi
Cute, and in French, he's not a frenchman though...
It would still be cute if he won.

GERMANY: S!sters - Sister
It's in English, F*ck that

14. ISRAEL: Kobi Marimi- Home
Why is it in English!?

ITALY: Mahmood - Soldi
It's in Italian but it's title doesn't seem very Italian

SPAIN: Miki Núñez - La Venda
...sounds...good

UNITED KINDOM: Michael Rice- Bigger Than Us
Ugh, generic American-sounding love song

I guess Spain gets my vote then...It has that despacito charm to it

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:15 pm
by Britonisea
Borinsa wrote:
Belgaam wrote:
Because the Israeli national broadcaster KAN is a part of the EBU, which means Israel are eligible to compete in Eurovision.


Why is Israel's song in English?


Because there is no restriction on language at Eurovision. Nations prefer to sing in English because it's usually a second language if it isn't a first and statistically is very successful.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:17 pm
by Borinsa
Britonisea wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Why is Israel's song in English?


Because there is no restriction on language at Eurovision. Nations prefer to sing in English because it's usually a second language if it isn't a first and statistically is very successful.


Man, fuck English!!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:22 pm
by Britonisea
Borinsa wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Because there is no restriction on language at Eurovision. Nations prefer to sing in English because it's usually a second language if it isn't a first and statistically is very successful.


Man, fuck English!!


You realise you're currently speaking it? :?:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:24 pm
by Borinsa
Britonisea wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Man, fuck English!!


You realise you're currently speaking it? :?:


I mean it ruining non-english songs so that the native English songs always win

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:25 pm
by Belgaam
Italy and Portugal never sing in English anymore so I respect them for that.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:27 pm
by Astoriya
Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?

When you remember that the majority of Israel's population are descended from Europeans (Holocaust, et al)...

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:28 pm
by Britonisea
Borinsa wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
You realise you're currently speaking it? :?:


I mean it ruining non-english songs so that the native English songs always win


Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?

Belgaam wrote:Italy and Portugal never sing in English anymore so I respect them for that.


Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:30 pm
by Belgaam
Britonisea wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
I mean it ruining non-english songs so that the native English songs always win


Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?

Belgaam wrote:Italy and Portugal never sing in English anymore so I respect them for that.


Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?


I'd just like every single country to sing in their national language, and yes I do respect the UK for singing in their national language, Australia too, and I also respect Ireland because their national language is English and Irish but I would prefer their song in Irish.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:43 pm
by Britonisea
Belgaam wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?



Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?


I'd just like every single country to sing in their national language, and yes I do respect the UK for singing in their national language, Australia too, and I also respect Ireland because their national language is English and Irish but I would prefer their song in Irish.


I see...I see...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:43 am
by Darkmania
Belgaam wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
Nah, Portugese and Crimean Tatar won in 2016 and 2017 respectively. The winning song last year had elements of another language too... Where are you from?



Don't you respect the United Kingdom for singing in their own native language?


I'd just like every single country to sing in their national language, and yes I do respect the UK for singing in their national language, Australia too, and I also respect Ireland because their national language is English and Irish but I would prefer their song in Irish.


While I do also wish that countries can go back singing in their own national languages, something that was last done in 1998, i don't object that other nations (like for sake of argument Sweden) sing in English, because let's face it, the world is globalized and English is a Lingua franca now.

While it's nice to hear danish again in Eurovision (there are danish phrases in the danish entry this year), and we (Norway) sends a joik after 39 years, I believe that to truly Celebrate Diversity, we should hear the national languages from all 41 countries who will travel to a Tel Aviv.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:56 am
by Darkmania
Borinsa wrote:FRANCE: Bilal Hassani - Roi
Cute, and in French, he's not a frenchman though...
It would still be cute if he won.


Bilal Hassani was born in Paris, he`s just of Moroccan descent.

Borinsa wrote:GERMANY: S!sters - Sister
It's in English, F*ck that


Just because they sing in English and not in german, it doesn't mean that the whole song should just be thrown out.

Borinsa wrote:14. ISRAEL: Kobi Marimi- Home
Why is it in English!?


Its because its a choice made by the host-country to sing in English.

Borinsa wrote:ITALY: Mahmood - Soldi
It's in Italian but its title doesn't seem very Italian


"Soldi" is Italian and means "Money".

Borinsa wrote:SPAIN: Miki Núñez - La Venda
...sounds...good


Agree.

Borinsa wrote:UNITED KINDOM: Michael Rice- Bigger Than Us
Ugh, generic American-sounding love song


At least it doesn't fit the Brexit-songs that the UK has sent last two years (Never Give Up on You and Storm).

Borinsa wrote:I guess Spain gets my vote then...It has that despacito charm to it

:rofl:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:35 am
by Borinsa
Astoriya wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Wait, I'm pro-israel but...
why is a middle eastern country participating in Eurovision?

When you remember that the majority of Israel's population are descended from Europeans (Holocaust, et al)...

...but I thought Israel was supposed to be their homeland, otherwise the Jewish state would had been founded in some small portion of Eastern Europe of something.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:20 pm
by Myfanwyski
'israel' might not have been in palestine as I saw an article in the times once that they were considering making a safe haven for them in uganda. maybe i'm mistaken after looking at this link- 1900's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals ... wish_state

jeez not just there by the look of it- a bit wierd considering entebbe- i wonder if they the plo intended to take that plane there b'cos of that?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:37 am
by Minoa
Darkmania wrote:… At least it doesn't fit the Brexit-songs that the UK has sent last two years (Never Give Up on You and Storm) …

Snipped for relevance

I wonder when the UK will have a Rick Astley/Darude collab as their Eurovision entry.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:01 am
by Darkmania
Minoa wrote:
Darkmania wrote:… At least it doesn't fit the Brexit-songs that the UK has sent last two years (Never Give Up on You and Storm) …

Snipped for relevance

I wonder when the UK will have a Rick Astley/Darude collab as their Eurovision entry.


I hope too. After all, with Darude being sent to Tel Aviv to make a sandstorm, and Serhat literally being a memegod now, we defiantly need Rick Astley to Eurovision with Darude. Maybe their song will be "Never Gonna Give You Sandstorm"

PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:14 am
by Belgaam
Darkmania wrote:
Minoa wrote:Snipped for relevance

I wonder when the UK will have a Rick Astley/Darude collab as their Eurovision entry.


I hope too. After all, with Darude being sent to Tel Aviv to make a sandstorm, and Serhat literally being a memegod now, we defiantly need Rick Astley to Eurovision with Darude. Maybe their song will be "Never Gonna Give You Sandstorm"


#RickAstley&DarudeToEurovision2020