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Cliches: Yay or Nay?

Yes, they are good and certainly beneficial to filmmaking.
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Yes, but they have downsides.
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No, but they have upsides.
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No, they are bad and not beneficial to filmaking.
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The Cliche Thread

Postby New Excalibus » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:16 am

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Welcome to The Cliche Thread, the land for discussing outrageous and overused cliches.
Now, what exactly is a cliche? A cliche is a commonly used trope in theatre, art, film, writing, pretty much anything. An example of a cliche is British people being super posh and classy in film, which is usually far from the truth.
Here you can talk about any kind of cliche that annoys you, or discuss a cliche with others.
Anywho, enough with the jibber-jabber. Let's get this cliche show on the road!
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Postby New Excalibus » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:19 am

One of the cliches that personally grinds my gears is desert islands. A character washes up on a tiny desert island with a palm tree. It's just such an overused concept, and the island is so unrealistic as well.
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Postby Area 6-Z » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:26 am

The cliche I hate the most is when every action movie including spy movies. Always have a Russian bad guy trying to destroy America or is trying to launch the nukes why can't we get other people for a change?

Another one is when the Earth is being invaded by aliens where does it happen at? In America and where are the aliens stopped at? America.

Why can't we go to different nations?
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Postby New Excalibus » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:50 am

Area 6-Z wrote:The cliche I hate the most is when every action movie including spy movies. Always have a Russian bad guy trying to destroy America or is trying to launch the nukes why can't we get other people for a change?

Another one is when the Earth is being invaded by aliens where does it happen at? In America and where are the aliens stopped at? America.

Why can't we go to different nations?

Agreed. I'd certainly like to see an American as a villain for once. We certainly aren't the most good-hearted people on earth. And I'd also like to see an alien invasion movie set in Africa. It would certainly be interesting.
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Postby Mzeusia » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:54 am

I dislike the cliche of the "One person can save the world and they have to do it alone and it has been their destiny since time immemorial"

Edit: That one person is more often than not someone in their early teens.
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Postby Dresderstan » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:24 am

Rule of three is a cliche, even though I personally like it.
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Postby New Excalibus » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:53 pm

Mzeusia wrote:I dislike the cliche of the "One person can save the world and they have to do it alone and it has been their destiny since time immemorial"

Edit: That one person is more often than not someone in their early teens.

Looking at you, J.K. Rowling.
Dresderstan wrote:Rule of three is a cliche, even though I personally like it.

I hadn't thought of that. If you think about it, that really is an overused cliche.
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:13 am

New Excalibus wrote:I hadn't thought of that. If you think about it, that really is an overused cliche.
Three bears, three pigs, etc.
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Yup, number three seems to be fairly popular between writers.
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Postby Stiltball » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:30 am

politicians enjoy spouting trite meaningless slogans.

there's the attrocious - the people's vote - when in fqact it is an attempt to undermine the verdict of the referendum - spouted by people who were complaining about the brexiters wanted another referendum if they lost - bloody hypocrites.

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Postby New Trumania » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:21 pm

I find the arbitrary "you're late" introduction of a movie character to be pointless and a crutch for screenwriters.

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Postby Cloney » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:23 pm

I really hate when people say all Asians are Chinese and farm rice. It drives me insane.
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Postby New Excalibus » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:43 pm

New Trumania wrote:I find the arbitrary "you're late" introduction of a movie character to be pointless and a crutch for screenwriters.

Agreed. It's just a lazy excuse to introduce a character.
Cloney wrote:I really hate when people say all Asians are Chinese and farm rice. It drives me insane.

That's less of a cliche and more a stereotype.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:56 am

New Excalibus wrote:
Area 6-Z wrote:The cliche I hate the most is when every action movie including spy movies. Always have a Russian bad guy trying to destroy America or is trying to launch the nukes why can't we get other people for a change?

Another one is when the Earth is being invaded by aliens where does it happen at? In America and where are the aliens stopped at? America.

Why can't we go to different nations?

Agreed. I'd certainly like to see an American as a villain for once. We certainly aren't the most good-hearted people on earth. And I'd also like to see an alien invasion movie set in Africa. It would certainly be interesting.


I mean, District 9 is set in South Africa...

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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:01 am

New Excalibus wrote:
Area 6-Z wrote:The cliche I hate the most is when every action movie including spy movies. Always have a Russian bad guy trying to destroy America or is trying to launch the nukes why can't we get other people for a change?

Another one is when the Earth is being invaded by aliens where does it happen at? In America and where are the aliens stopped at? America.

Why can't we go to different nations?

Agreed. I'd certainly like to see an American as a villain for once. We certainly aren't the most good-hearted people on earth. And I'd also like to see an alien invasion movie set in Africa. It would certainly be interesting.

Well, in Fallout series, Enclave (Remnants of the Pre-War government) are one of the main villains. However, Fallout series themselves are set only in America, so...
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Postby New Excalibus » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:42 am

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
New Excalibus wrote:Agreed. I'd certainly like to see an American as a villain for once. We certainly aren't the most good-hearted people on earth. And I'd also like to see an alien invasion movie set in Africa. It would certainly be interesting.


I mean, District 9 is set in South Africa...

Ooh! Good thinking.
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New Excalibus wrote:Agreed. I'd certainly like to see an American as a villain for once. We certainly aren't the most good-hearted people on earth. And I'd also like to see an alien invasion movie set in Africa. It would certainly be interesting.

Well, in Fallout series, Enclave (Remnants of the Pre-War government) are one of the main villains. However, Fallout series themselves are set only in America, so...

Only America would dare attack America.
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Postby Myfanwyski » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:12 pm

Cloney wrote:I really hate when people say all Asians are Chinese and farm rice. It drives me insane.


this puts me in mind of:-

all blacks look the same etc.

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Postby Awesome Dudes and Dudettes » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:30 pm

New Trumania wrote:I find the arbitrary "you're late" introduction of a movie character to be pointless and a crutch for screenwriters.

I get where your coming from but what else is a character suppose to say?
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Postby New Excalibus » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:22 pm

Awesome Dudes and Dudettes wrote:
New Trumania wrote:I find the arbitrary "you're late" introduction of a movie character to be pointless and a crutch for screenwriters.

I get where your coming from but what else is a character suppose to say?

Any other introduction.
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:49 am

New Excalibus wrote:
Area 6-Z wrote:The cliche I hate the most is when every action movie including spy movies. Always have a Russian bad guy trying to destroy America or is trying to launch the nukes why can't we get other people for a change?

Another one is when the Earth is being invaded by aliens where does it happen at? In America and where are the aliens stopped at? America.

Why can't we go to different nations?

Agreed. I'd certainly like to see an American as a villain for once. We certainly aren't the most good-hearted people on earth. And I'd also like to see an alien invasion movie set in Africa. It would certainly be interesting.

Also, I might be wrong, but villain American nations are quite common in NationStates. That said, it is NationStates, not movie industry, so...
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Postby Vincere Terrae » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:35 am

I hate all the terrible villains that plague super hero movies now, like all the generic CGI villains where their only motivation is to "destroy/conquer the whole world because they are the most powerful" like this has been a cliche for decades and most mass audiences don't seem to mind it drives me insane how rarely we get good villains in these types of movies

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Postby Myfanwyski » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:39 am

the bomb is ticking- and people are trying to save the world- always goes down to the last few seconds.

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America is either the most OP and bestest country on Earth or quickly overwhelmed and weak (Though I will note it's more often the former)
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