Why isn't Rock 'mainstream' anymore

[Havarland]

Affirmative action programs and white presenters' liberal guilt means that those making radio playlists see synthesised music auto-tune talked over by black people as more "authentic" and "real" than bands mainly made up of white people playing real instruments.

You should check out a really white area of the US then, because it's super common for stations to edit out black people from songs.

But white people are a minority in The US nowadays and they will be in the future as well.

[Sapientia Et Bellum]

No genre is truly dead until people stop creating it tbh... Im an amateur jazz musician (college level jazz band) and I have met so many incredible people that our enthusiastic about the genre so I cant really say its dead tbh nor do I want it to be considered dead

[Havarland]

No genre is truly dead until people stop creating it tbh... Im an amateur jazz musician (college level jazz band) and I have met so many incredible people that our enthusiastic about the genre so I cant really say its dead tbh nor do I want it to be considered dead

I agree, but Jazz isn't mainstream. Rock as in genre isn't dead, but it's not mainstream anymore.

[Neo Kerala]

Metallica is still alive though...Oh yeah it's metal

[Neo Kerala]

A. A lot of rock in the 2000's was pretty shit
B. Rock stopped being the music of rebellion because almost everyone listened to it, while Rap took it's place as rebellious music that your parents hated you listening to
C. Pop and dance songs have been calculated to hell and back to sell the most albums and singles as humanly possible

True

[Valrifell]

No genre is truly dead until people stop creating it tbh... Im an amateur jazz musician (college level jazz band) and I have met so many incredible people that our enthusiastic about the genre so I cant really say its dead tbh nor do I want it to be considered dead

I agree, but Jazz isn't mainstream. Rock as in genre isn't dead, but it's not mainstream anymore.

From reading this thread, it seems that rock will always have a place in album sales, even it it's not number one.

[Dresderstan]

Times have changed and so have the people, rock stopped being mainstream years if not a couple decades ago. While the rock bands of old get old, despite still selling well and their critical success, they are almost unable to compete with younger, fresher artists and more popular genres of today. The music industry is quite cutthroat and fast changing, and sadly rock isn't one of the genres that are able to change fast enough. Not to mention the climate of today's music has changed so much since rock was the mainstream. Today it's all about trap rap and hip-hop that's dominating, with some pop and EDM songs to fill in that airplay gap, and a very small handful of other smaller indie rock and alternative rock bands, if you can even consider them rock though. Yes their albums can sell well, but the albums and singles cannot compete with other artists, and sadly, they haven't adapted to what the industry is like now.

[Ther Sul Citzpacia]

I thought rock and roll's appeal was about not being mainstream, being rebellious and not giving a f#.
Most of it maybe cliche'd and old hat these days but some of the stuff still get's you in the gut.

maybe the hippies had it right?
tune in, drop out and start ben and jerries.
who are still chillin' after all these years.

[Augustan America]

Affirmative action programs and white presenters' liberal guilt means that those making radio playlists see synthesised music auto-tune talked over by black people as more "authentic" and "real" than bands mainly made up of white people playing real instruments.

This take is so dumb lmao. Do you think affirmative action programs or white presenter's "liberal guilt" is what made black jazz musicians in the 20's and 30's popular? Additionally, what makes "real instruments" intrinsically better than auto-tune or an 808? I'd argue that there are countless examples of hip hop music that are much more authentic and real than anything produced by rock musicians.

[Fedel]

Boy, what you talkin' bout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxbT5jSxGJ0

[Victorious Decepticons]

Hip-Hop and Pop currently top the charts, sitting in the throne once held for a long time.

My question is: what happened?

People finally got enough foam out of their ears to realize that rock sucks, so they dumped it. Unfortunately, they simultaneously got even more powerful ear plugs jammed in their ear holes, causing them to replace rock with the even-worse rap and the perennially sucky pop.

I await the day when people take ALL of their earplugs out, and finally realize the glory of Classic Country. Only then shall good music reign over the Earth.

[The Rich Port]

I wouldn't say that. We have OneRepublic, Imagine Dragons, fun, The Chainsmokers, Fall Out Boy, Panic! at the Disco, Gorillaz, Twenty-One Pilots, etc.

Yeah, noticed a similarity here?

Except for Gorillaz, they're all miserable and not fun.

I personally think that post-grunge has sucked the fun and the awesome out of rock and roll and replaced it with dreary depressive self-obsession, including our sad attempts at edge thanks to grindcore.

The same thing is happening to rap and pop, ironically enough: emo-rap and sad dance music permeate the charts.

Even Gorillaz isn't immune to airy, sad filler, but heir introspective, assertive approach to rap and pop is what more people need to do.

Jamie Hewlett rotating so many influences is an amazing idea. It keeps Gorillaz's music dynamic as opposed to the reactive nonsense of so many rappers and pop singers.

In conclusion, I don't care what anybody says, for all of the filler songs like Andromeda, Saturnz Bar is an amazing track for an amazing album. Admittedly, the songs that don't work really don't work, but the ones that do REALLY work.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Boy, what you talkin' bout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxbT5jSxGJ0

I’ve already listened to Led Zeppelin

[Fedel]

Boy, what you talkin' bout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxbT5jSxGJ0

I’ve already listened to Led Zeppelin

Hurr durr. Good one.

[Latin Islands]

Hip-Hop and Pop currently top the charts, sitting in the throne once held for a long time.

My question is: what happened?

People finally got enough foam out of their ears to realize that rock sucks, so they dumped it. Unfortunately, they simultaneously got even more powerful ear plugs jammed in their ear holes, causing them to replace rock with the even-worse rap and the perennially sucky pop.

I await the day when people take ALL of their earplugs out, and finally realize the glory of Classic Country. Only then shall good music reign over the Earth.

Don't country singles occasionally gain mainstream attention regardless of the decade?

Affirmative action programs and white presenters' liberal guilt means that those making radio playlists see synthesised music auto-tune talked over by black people as more "authentic" and "real" than bands mainly made up of white people playing real instruments.

This take is so dumb lmao. Do you think affirmative action programs or white presenter's "liberal guilt" is what made black jazz musicians in the 20's and 30's popular? Additionally, what makes "real instruments" intrinsically better than auto-tune or an 808? I'd argue that there are countless examples of hip hop music that are much more authentic and real than anything produced by rock musicians.

Totally not surprising given you're into hip-hop.

No genre is truly dead until people stop creating it tbh... Im an amateur jazz musician (college level jazz band) and I have met so many incredible people that our enthusiastic about the genre so I cant really say its dead tbh nor do I want it to be considered dead

Agreed.

[Research Outpost 31]

the demographics of people who enjoyed rock music are getting older?

today's new grandparents

So according to this I'm a 13 year old grandparent.

[Indo-Malaysia]

the demographics of people who enjoyed rock music are getting older?

today's new grandparents

So according to this I'm a 13 year old grandparent.

I’d be highly concerned if that were the case.

[Research Outpost 31]

So according to this I'm a 13 year old grandparent.

I’d be highly concerned if that were the case.

I was joking.