Thread for Gamers IX: God Howard Anniversary Edition

[Genivaria]

So new Cathay trailer has been released for Wahammer 3 Total War.
https://youtu.be/033FWxL22A0

Dat Chinese looking army looks awesome.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So new Cathay trailer has been released for Wahammer 3 Total War.
https://youtu.be/033FWxL22A0

Dat Chinese looking army looks awesome.

It really does.

[Genivaria]

So new Cathay trailer has been released for Wahammer 3 Total War.
https://youtu.be/033FWxL22A0

Dat Chinese looking army looks awesome.

It really does.

Also giving Cathay airships before Dwarves, that's going in the Book of Grudges CA.

[Juristonia]

Finally trying out Disco Elysium. Died of a heart attack about 30 minutes in.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So that's run one of my Prey 100% Completion playthroughs finished and the first half of the Split Affinity achievement (Complete the game using Typhon powers, then again with Human Powers) done. I did the Typhon power route and nabbed the I and It achievement to kill all Humans on Talos 1 (basically the bad ending) and nabbed all the remaining Typhon power specific achievements and all but one of the Secret achievements. So in total 14 Achievements.

Now im going to do the Human side of that achievement and use this as the opportunity to get the remaining three collectible achievements: Find all 268 Employees, Read all E-Mails and listen to all Audio Logs. And also the last secret achievement to find some black market stashes.

Then when all that is done, the final achievement No Needles to complete the game without any neuromod powers at all, so that means my starting 100 health and suit and whatever i can recycle and weapons i can find. Which is going to be very limiting in terms of what i can do but ill do that run on easy.

Its sooo much fun getting back into this game over the last week and a bit.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Finally trying out Disco Elysium. Died of a heart attack about 30 minutes in.

lmao

It really does.

Also giving Cathay airships before Dwarves, that's going in the Book of Grudges CA.

*Angry dwarf noises*

[Bralia]

Finally trying out Disco Elysium. Died of a heart attack about 30 minutes in.

30 minutes!? How much of that time did you spend creating your character?

[Holy Tedalonia]

I mean, I look at it as most games are inherently not political and recently people have been more aware of the few that are.

Even apolitical things are political. Think about it, if we look at a game and consider it not to be political, then that tells us something about what our politics are. Like a black hole, we can see politics by looking at where not-politics ends and the inescapable crushing forces begin.

I mean, you can't go well and say Tetris has political themes, no one will take you seriously. What the shapes of the cubes is the working class conforming and fitting into society? Come on now.

Tetris was developed in the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union, which operated under the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union. But sure, no politics in the government of the Soviet Union.

I can likewise think the same for most games nowadays. Even Last of Us 2 isn't really political at its fundamental core. It just has a theme of "violence is bad." Which isn't inherently a political statement.

I mean, yeah it is? When violence is and isn't permissible is a very political question. Cycles of revenge of the kind that is* explored in TLOU2 have plagued mankind for as long as we've had anything close to an organised society.

*I am given to understand, I haven't played it.

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No no no no no no no no

The Last of Us 2 is the most political game ever made

Because uh.... reasons

Big muscular reasons

Politics is when girl have muscles, and the more muscles girl have the more politicser it is.

Its more on a focus of morality than politics itself. Last of Us 2 focuses on what we morally should do, not on what the government should do. Politics is anything associated with governance and the inherent struggle of power that comes with it. Last of Us doesn't even relate to that to any level. But muscles must be political, amiright? CK2 and most paradox games, are political even though they don't engage with modern politics all that much, save for a few outliers. Considering they are about governing a sci fi or historical/ahistorical country.

As for the Tetris shit, bruh, a political entity can create a non-political piece of work. This is like saying the produce the Soviet Union produces is inherently political because the government owns the farms. I don't think oranges spread the message of why they must conform to russian society any more than a game about blocks falling down does.

Besides that, I wouldn't understand why anybody would want to think everything relates to politics, politics is misery, shits like a depression drug that wants you upset at life. While its your responsibility to keep up with that shit, you really don't want to spend any more than you have to. Especially in games which goal as entertainment is to have fun. Other than a few outliers (Bioshock), your simply liable to pissing someone off. That's why most games will mostly be apolitical because being political is liable to cutting into their profits.

[Corrian]

The moment you start having actual characters with conflicting points of view and ideologies you now have the basics of a political/philosophical conflict which is often used in good storytelling.

If you dont want 'politics in your video games' go play pong.

What's funny is I'm pretty sure half the people that say that too also play games with political messages. CoD for example has had plenty.

[Imperial isa]

Lmao, Epic Games lost their lawsuit hard. The only thing that was in apples favor was the external purchases, but even that still gets the 30% apple charge.

In the eyes of the court, if you are actively benefiting from the apple ecosystem, you need to pay up. Tim Sweeney thought he could skip rent, lmao.

Oh no what will they do now.

Ask Tencent for more money so they can pay the rent ?

[Corrian]

Activision has been sued...again

[Heloin]

Activision has been sued...again

I like good news.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Lmao, Epic Games lost their lawsuit hard. The only thing that was in apples favor was the external purchases, but even that still gets the 30% apple charge.

In the eyes of the court, if you are actively benefiting from the apple ecosystem, you need to pay up. Tim Sweeney thought he could skip rent, lmao.

Is that the lawsuit they started off with that unbelievably cringe 1984 video on youtube?

[Ifreann]

Even apolitical things are political. Think about it, if we look at a game and consider it not to be political, then that tells us something about what our politics are. Like a black hole, we can see politics by looking at where not-politics ends and the inescapable crushing forces begin.

Tetris was developed in the Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union, which operated under the Council of Ministers of the Soviet Union. But sure, no politics in the government of the Soviet Union.


I mean, yeah it is? When violence is and isn't permissible is a very political question. Cycles of revenge of the kind that is* explored in TLOU2 have plagued mankind for as long as we've had anything close to an organised society.

*I am given to understand, I haven't played it.

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Politics is when girl have muscles, and the more muscles girl have the more politicser it is.

Its more on a focus of morality than politics itself. Last of Us 2 focuses on what we morally should do, not on what the government should do. Politics is anything associated with governance and the inherent struggle of power that comes with it. Last of Us doesn't even relate to that to any level. But muscles must be political, amiright? CK2 and most paradox games, are political even though they don't engage with modern politics all that much, save for a few outliers. Considering they are about governing a sci fi or historical/ahistorical country.

As for the Tetris shit, bruh, a political entity can create a non-political piece of work. This is like saying the produce the Soviet Union produces is inherently political because the government owns the farms. I don't think oranges spread the message of why they must conform to russian society any more than a game about blocks falling down does.

Besides that, I wouldn't understand why anybody would want to think everything relates to politics, politics is misery, shits like a depression drug that wants you upset at life. While its your responsibility to keep up with that shit, you really don't want to spend any more than you have to. Especially in games which goal as entertainment is to have fun. Other than a few outliers (Bioshock), your simply liable to pissing someone off. That's why most games will mostly be apolitical because being political is liable to cutting into their profits.

I haven't spent sixteen years on this website arguing about politics because I hate politics. Hot take, games being political is good, actually. Finding the politics in things that don't have explicit politics is good. Political analysis doesn't ruin games or take the fun out of them.

[Ifreann]

Valheim's Hearth and Home update is going live at 15:00 CEST tomorrow. Crack open a mead with your fellow vikings.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Lmao, Epic Games lost their lawsuit hard. The only thing that was in apples favor was the external purchases, but even that still gets the 30% apple charge.

In the eyes of the court, if you are actively benefiting from the apple ecosystem, you need to pay up. Tim Sweeney thought he could skip rent, lmao.

Is that the lawsuit they started off with that unbelievably cringe 1984 video on youtube?

Yep, remember to #FreeFortnite

Its more on a focus of morality than politics itself. Last of Us 2 focuses on what we morally should do, not on what the government should do. Politics is anything associated with governance and the inherent struggle of power that comes with it. Last of Us doesn't even relate to that to any level. But muscles must be political, amiright? CK2 and most paradox games, are political even though they don't engage with modern politics all that much, save for a few outliers. Considering they are about governing a sci fi or historical/ahistorical country.

As for the Tetris shit, bruh, a political entity can create a non-political piece of work. This is like saying the produce the Soviet Union produces is inherently political because the government owns the farms. I don't think oranges spread the message of why they must conform to russian society any more than a game about blocks falling down does.

Besides that, I wouldn't understand why anybody would want to think everything relates to politics, politics is misery, shits like a depression drug that wants you upset at life. While its your responsibility to keep up with that shit, you really don't want to spend any more than you have to. Especially in games which goal as entertainment is to have fun. Other than a few outliers (Bioshock), your simply liable to pissing someone off. That's why most games will mostly be apolitical because being political is liable to cutting into their profits.

I haven't spent sixteen years on this website arguing about politics because I hate politics. Hot take, games being political is good, actually. Finding the politics in things that don't have explicit politics is good. Political analysis doesn't ruin games or take the fun out of them.

Different strokes for different folks, mate. I may not like seafood, but you can gorge the shit for all I care. I'd say that I would avoid the shit, but for the most part developers avoid the shit for me anyways.

[Herador]

The moment you start having actual characters with conflicting points of view and ideologies you now have the basics of a political/philosophical conflict which is often used in good storytelling.

If you dont want 'politics in your video games' go play pong.

What's funny is I'm pretty sure half the people that say that too also play games with political messages. CoD for example has had plenty.

CoD has always been my favorite for political themes, not because they're good or anything, but because they're funny as hell. It's so clear CoD doesn't actually believe in anything and watching the series try to be deep is gold every time.

[Ameriganastan]

CHAPTER 2 OF DELTARUNE IS COMING! IN LIKE 2 DAYS!

[Just-An-Illusion]

CHAPTER 2 OF DELTARUNE IS COMING! IN LIKE 2 DAYS!

Nice!

[The Huskar Social Union]

I now have every achievement in Prey except the No Needles achievement for completing the game with no abilities. All secret achievements, all collectibles, all side missions, all the other possible endings all done.

Turns out the collectible achievements have a bit of leeway, so you dont have to find every single crew member, audio log or email which is really handy as some of the bodies disappeared for me or failed to spawn and im glad it didnt screw me.

Now one final run with no abilities at all, gona try and be quick with this one and recycle as much as i can. Also gona play on easy with the survival options turned off just to speed it up lol.

What's funny is I'm pretty sure half the people that say that too also play games with political messages. CoD for example has had plenty.

CoD has always been my favorite for political themes, not because they're good or anything, but because they're funny as hell. It's so clear CoD doesn't actually believe in anything and watching the series try to be deep is gold every time.

Always amused how in the last modern warfare game the Russians were sooo comically evil. It was mad, like every five minutes they were executing people or forcing "totally not Syrians" into slavery.

[Ifreann]

I now have every achievement in Prey except the No Needles achievement for completing the game with no abilities. All secret achievements, all collectibles, all side missions, all the other possible endings all done.

Turns out the collectible achievements have a bit of leeway, so you dont have to find every single crew member, audio log or email which is really handy as some of the bodies disappeared for me or failed to spawn and im glad it didnt screw me.

Now one final run with no abilities at all, gona try and be quick with this one and recycle as much as i can. Also gona play on easy with the survival options turned off just to speed it up lol.

CoD has always been my favorite for political themes, not because they're good or anything, but because they're funny as hell. It's so clear CoD doesn't actually believe in anything and watching the series try to be deep is gold every time.

Always amused how in the last modern warfare game the Russians were sooo comically evil. It was mad, like every five minutes they were executing people or forcing "totally not Syrians" into slavery.

The best was where they blamed the Russians for a real war crime that was carried out by America.

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Valheim's Hearth and Home update is going live at 15:00 CEST tomorrow. Crack open a mead with your fellow vikings.

Patch notes

* Cartography table (For sharing map-data with other players)

PRAISE ODIN

[The Huskar Social Union]

Former Bungie composer Marty O'Donnell found in contempt of court over use of Destiny assets

Composer Marty O'Donnell has been found in contempt of court over his use of Destiny assets and now owes Bungie tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, Eurogamer can reveal.

In April this year, Bungie served the celebrated composer behind the original Halo music with contempt of court papers over videos related to Destiny that were uploaded to O'Donnell's YouTube channel and other platforms.

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Bungie said "all material" includes not just Music of the Spheres in their final state, but all versions, components and variations of the tracks - that is, all material involved in any way in the creation of Music of the Spheres and Destiny.

Fast forward to 2019, when O'Donnell began uploading videos and other materials relating to Music of the Spheres and Destiny to his YouTube channel, as well as Bandcamp.

"Mr. O'Donnell's very possession of such materials proves he did not comply with the order to return 'all material' to Bungie," Bungie's motion, reviewed by Eurogamer, reads.

Bungie also noted O'Donnell posted tracks and an album titled "Sketches for MotS" to Bandcamp, where users were able to pay him a fee if they wanted to.

Bungie argued all this activity amounted to a contempt of court and a violation of the 2015 injunction. The court agreed, and on 12th July, judge Regina Cahan of the Superior Court of Washington King County ruled in Bungie's favour:

"Mr. O'Donnell intentionally disobeyed, and is hereby held in contempt of, the September 17, 2015 order confirming and enforcing final arbitration award (the "Order") entered in this Matter."

A representative of Bungie said the company is unable to comment on ongoing litigation, but pointed to the court's ruling, above. O'Donnell declined to comment when contacted by Eurogamer.

The court has now imposed upon O'Donnell a number of sanctions, including a third-party forensic examination of his electronic devices in order to delete any assets relating to Destiny or Music of the Spheres.

O'Donnell must also remove all the relevant material from the internet (he's already done this, if you were wondering where that all went from his YouTube channel). O'Donnell must also write to any third-party he is aware of who also posted the material to ask them to remove it.

O'Donnell is also ordered to "post a message, the wording of which the parties agree to, on his Twitter, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Soundcloud sites/channels stating that he did not have legal authority to possessor provide material related to Music of the Spheres or Destiny and asking anyone who previously downloaded any such assets to delete them and refrain from sharing and will destroy any copies of them".

"Mr. O'Donnell will refrain from making any direct or indirect public comment regarding these posts, including responses to those inquiring regarding basis for such posts, and will let the message speak for itself," the court order reads.

O'Donnell has so far not done this.

=CONTINUES=

[Holy Tedalonia]

Former Bungie composer Marty O'Donnell found in contempt of court over use of Destiny assets

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Bruh wtf is that last part? "Refrain from making public comments regarding these posts?" Bruh, they want to publicly shame my boy, but not allow him to voice his dissenting opinion afterwards.

[Juristonia]

30 minutes!? How much of that time did you spend creating your character?

Listen, I'm not great at these kind of games.
Though, to be fair, I was just giving it a quick look before digging in. My current run is going much better.. so far.

[Imperial isa]

So i hear Blizzard gone with wasting time ,resources and manpower censoring portraits In World Of Warcraft over putting it into fixing bugs plays keep asking them to.