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Arcade
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Mobile
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Anything and Everything
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8%
Other
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:17 pm

Herador wrote:
Atheris wrote:Good point.

That isn't a reason to stop, it's a reason to keep going and become a legend.

...Also good point.

It's not a human, so I still count as asexual.

...

Fuck it, I'm going in, boys! For Americaaaaaaaa- dies
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Postby Imperial isa » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:17 pm

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Postby Heloin » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:21 pm

Atheris wrote:
Herador wrote:That isn't a reason to stop, it's a reason to keep going and become a legend.

...Also good point.

It's not a human, so I still count as asexual.

...

Fuck it, I'm going in, boys! For Americaaaaaaaa- dies

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Postby Herador » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:26 pm

Heloin wrote:
Atheris wrote:...Also good point.

It's not a human, so I still count as asexual.

...

Fuck it, I'm going in, boys! For Americaaaaaaaa- dies

Many lives have been claimed in Quarry Junction, most from fools who think they can sneak past or fight the deathclaws.
What do you mean most?
Well there was one absolute moron...

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:42 am

The sentient and talking deathclaws from Fallout 2 still haven't returned in any subsequent Fallout games. They have only ever been brought back in a non-canon way through mods.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:26 am

The New California Republic wrote:The sentient and talking deathclaws from Fallout 2 still haven't returned in any subsequent Fallout games. They have only ever been brought back in a non-canon way through mods.

Well, according to the Fallout Bible, the talking Deathclaws never reproduced.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:43 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The sentient and talking deathclaws from Fallout 2 still haven't returned in any subsequent Fallout games. They have only ever been brought back in a non-canon way through mods.

Well, according to the Fallout Bible, the talking Deathclaws never reproduced.

The Fallout Bible is also no longer considered canon tho.

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Postby Heloin » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:44 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The sentient and talking deathclaws from Fallout 2 still haven't returned in any subsequent Fallout games. They have only ever been brought back in a non-canon way through mods.

Well, according to the Fallout Bible, the talking Deathclaws never reproduced.

Neither can the Super Mutants which was a really important point of why the Master's plan failed in Fallout 1 but every fallout game since then has included them, even if it makes no fucking sense. Yes, I'm looking at you 76.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:51 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The sentient and talking deathclaws from Fallout 2 still haven't returned in any subsequent Fallout games. They have only ever been brought back in a non-canon way through mods.

Well, according to the Fallout Bible, the talking Deathclaws never reproduced.

The evidence is contradictory. John Deiley who created the talking deathclaws said it's possible that some survived the massacre at Vault 13 and reproduced.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:54 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Well, according to the Fallout Bible, the talking Deathclaws never reproduced.

The evidence is contradictory. John Deiley who created the talking deathclaws said it's possible that some survived the massacre at Vault 13 and reproduced.

Just throw that on a pile of things that'd be nice if Obsidian gets to make a New Vegas 2.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:01 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Well, according to the Fallout Bible, the talking Deathclaws never reproduced.

The Fallout Bible is also no longer considered canon tho.

...Wait, since when?
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:08 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:The Fallout Bible is also no longer considered canon tho.

...Wait, since when?

I think since Bethesda first acquired the rights, even Chris himself said it was non-canon i.e. not binding to Bethesda.

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Postby Immoren » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:21 am

Heloin wrote:
Atheris wrote:Why not fuck a Deathclaw?

Well they're like 3 metres tall and have razor sharp claws and teeth.


Like that's ever stopped monster*bleep*..
...I mean monster lovers.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:33 am

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The evidence is contradictory. John Deiley who created the talking deathclaws said it's possible that some survived the massacre at Vault 13 and reproduced.

Just throw that on a pile of things that'd be nice if Obsidian gets to make a New Vegas 2.

Even if Bethesda did something with the idea of intelligent deathclaws then it'd be fine, as long as they do something interesting with it, and it's not just a throwaway side quest.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:45 am

Imperial isa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Got into They are Billions again recently. Gona give the campaign another bash, there is basically zero story but some of the campaign missions can be fun and i might play the survival mode again too.

It definitely seems that way. It looks as if they just took a bunch of missions/ideas from various other games and just slammed them together without any thoughts about cohesion or story telling.

I mean from that video two back to back story missions are seemingly:

A: Board a super death laser space station in orbit of earth and fight your way through a mix of Wolfenstein and Deadspace inspired levels to kill a Nazi esque Scientist who wants to gas the world and then end it with a dog fight in space between two star fighters.

B: Then You are back on Earth and have to rescue an NCR soldier who was abducted by the Legion after her squad was killed and was used as the personal sex slave of the legion commander and raped repeatedly and is not mentally broken as a result and you try and talk to her about it.

Wat

Is there a mission with tank that look like a Sherman tank?

Yeah in that video i posted there was a mission involving four sherman tanks fighting mad max esque fellas on buggies and stuff. One of them literally yells witness me as he drives a nuke car into a tank.
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Imperial isa
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Postby Imperial isa » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:25 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:Is there a mission with tank that look like a Sherman tank?

Yeah in that video i posted there was a mission involving four sherman tanks fighting mad max esque fellas on buggies and stuff. One of them literally yells witness me as he drives a nuke car into a tank.

I had to check think i only heard of the mod due to test video showing of the them ,which i found while looking up Sherman tanks.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:45 am

Imperial isa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah in that video i posted there was a mission involving four sherman tanks fighting mad max esque fellas on buggies and stuff. One of them literally yells witness me as he drives a nuke car into a tank.

I had to check think i only heard of the mod due to test video showing of the them ,which i found while looking up Sherman tanks.

I mean I get that with most mods that the prior canon in the base game is bent and flexed a bit, some allowance is made for artistic licence, but Frontier completely blasts any semblance of respect for canon out of the water.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Imperial isa » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:37 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:I had to check think i only heard of the mod due to test video showing of the them ,which i found while looking up Sherman tanks.

I mean I get that with most mods that the prior canon in the base game is bent and flexed a bit, some allowance is made for artistic licence, but Frontier completely blasts any semblance of respect for canon out of the water.

Well Fallout Tactics did have a Sherman tank but all other things in it yeah.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:59 am

Imperial isa wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I mean I get that with most mods that the prior canon in the base game is bent and flexed a bit, some allowance is made for artistic licence, but Frontier completely blasts any semblance of respect for canon out of the water.

Well Fallout Tactics did have a Sherman tank but all other things in it yeah.

The way that Fallout Tactics itself fits into canon is tenuous. The likes of Todd Howard have said that Fallout Tactics absolutely isn't canon, while others have said that only very carefully handpicked elements of it can be incorporated into canon.

Personally, I lean towards classing the things, events, and people of Fallout Tactics as an "alternate universe" type of thing, i.e. something that is coherent in its own little bubble, but only tangentially related to the actual Fallout universe.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:29 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:Well Fallout Tactics did have a Sherman tank but all other things in it yeah.

The way that Fallout Tactics itself fits into canon is tenuous. The likes of Todd Howard have said that Fallout Tactics absolutely isn't canon, while others have said that only very carefully handpicked elements of it can be incorporated into canon.

Personally, I lean towards classing the things, events, and people of Fallout Tactics as an "alternate universe" type of thing, i.e. something that is coherent in its own little bubble, but only tangentially related to the actual Fallout universe.

Todd Howard isn't canon.
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Postby Atheris » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:37 pm

Turns out there's a NES Demake for Final Fantasy 7.

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Postby Herador » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:12 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:Well Fallout Tactics did have a Sherman tank but all other things in it yeah.

The way that Fallout Tactics itself fits into canon is tenuous. The likes of Todd Howard have said that Fallout Tactics absolutely isn't canon, while others have said that only very carefully handpicked elements of it can be incorporated into canon.

Personally, I lean towards classing the things, events, and people of Fallout Tactics as an "alternate universe" type of thing, i.e. something that is coherent in its own little bubble, but only tangentially related to the actual Fallout universe.

FO Tactics is great because you can just assume its canon and nothing in the lore can stop you. BoS airships? Those are canon. All powerful AI? Canon. Robot armies? Canon. Working cars and tanks? Certainly canon. midwest setting? Bethesda hasn't touched it and probably won't. So screw it, its canon to me and Todd can't do jack about it.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:03 pm

Herador wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The way that Fallout Tactics itself fits into canon is tenuous. The likes of Todd Howard have said that Fallout Tactics absolutely isn't canon, while others have said that only very carefully handpicked elements of it can be incorporated into canon.

Personally, I lean towards classing the things, events, and people of Fallout Tactics as an "alternate universe" type of thing, i.e. something that is coherent in its own little bubble, but only tangentially related to the actual Fallout universe.

FO Tactics is great because you can just assume its canon and nothing in the lore can stop you. BoS airships? Those are canon. All powerful AI? Canon. Robot armies? Canon. Working cars and tanks? Certainly canon. midwest setting? Bethesda hasn't touched it and probably won't. So screw it, its canon to me and Todd can't do jack about it.

Tbh the Fallout games have problems with what is considered canon in other areas as well. One area that I have picked up on before, probably because I remember the first games, is the super mutants. In Fallout 2 there is a super mutant called Francis, who you can armwrestle and if you lose then you need to...do...stuff...with him, which actually results in some hilarious dialogue from other characters later in the game. The super mutants in later games are referred to as having their "parts" disappearing during transformation from human to super mutant, and thus incapable of such things.

There is a partial explanation for it, that the latter thing about the characteristics disappearing only applies to Vault 87 super mutants, i.e. those in Fallout 3. However the how and why of the difference is never explained at all.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:58 pm

Hot damn in the morning, Yakuza 3, 4 and 5 finally hit Game Pass.
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The Ameri Train.
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Ameri does the impossible.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:02 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The way that Fallout Tactics itself fits into canon is tenuous. The likes of Todd Howard have said that Fallout Tactics absolutely isn't canon, while others have said that only very carefully handpicked elements of it can be incorporated into canon.

Personally, I lean towards classing the things, events, and people of Fallout Tactics as an "alternate universe" type of thing, i.e. something that is coherent in its own little bubble, but only tangentially related to the actual Fallout universe.

Todd Howard isn't canon.

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