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How indeed, do you game fine sirs or madams?

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Console
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Arcade
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Mobile
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Anything and Everything
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Other
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Postby Alvecia » Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:17 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:Ghost of Tsushima's combat is fucking terrible.

The game really, reeeaaaallllyyy wants you to be stealthy, and if you so much as alert a single enemy at the edge of a camp, you can look forward to being ganked by 20+ troops. Bow and arrow is inconsistent as shit, and lack of auto-targetting is a fucking joke when you're trying to fight one enemy, and turn around a hundred and eighty degrees to throw yourself at another instead. It's Sekiro all over again, where genuinely awful combat ruins what's otherwise a beautiful looking game.

How fucking difficult is it to make a single good "Samurai" game that isn't Nioh?

Your first mistake was trying to do stealth.

Personally I've had a lot of success with the combat. The camera could serve to be a bit more zoomed out at times, but otherwise I've had no real issues, and it looks cool as hell when you get a good combo off.

Funnily enough I did have issues with the larger camps where I'd deliberately aggro a bunch of guys at the main gate, but their 20 odd mates in the rest of camp would be otherwise unawares of their gate guards screaming in agony.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:13 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:Ghost of Tsushima's combat is fucking terrible.

The game really, reeeaaaallllyyy wants you to be stealthy, and if you so much as alert a single enemy at the edge of a camp, you can look forward to being ganked by 20+ troops. Bow and arrow is inconsistent as shit, and lack of auto-targetting is a fucking joke when you're trying to fight one enemy, and turn around a hundred and eighty degrees to throw yourself at another instead. It's Sekiro all over again, where genuinely awful combat ruins what's otherwise a beautiful looking game.

How fucking difficult is it to make a single good "Samurai" game that isn't Nioh?

Your first mistake was trying to do stealth.

Personally I've had a lot of success with the combat. The camera could serve to be a bit more zoomed out at times, but otherwise I've had no real issues, and it looks cool as hell when you get a good combo off.

Funnily enough I did have issues with the larger camps where I'd deliberately aggro a bunch of guys at the main gate, but their 20 odd mates in the rest of camp would be otherwise unawares of their gate guards screaming in agony.

Im enjoying the stealth and the frontal combat quite a lot, though i prefer straight up fighting the Mongols. Only issue i have with the game so far is i wish you could lock on. You can lock on in duels and when you are fighting one or two enemies its not too bad but sometimes fighting larger groups is a bit awkward.

Ive now go my standoff skill up to being able to kill three people and its soo satisfying.
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Postby Rostavykhan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:19 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:Ghost of Tsushima's combat is fucking terrible.

The game really, reeeaaaallllyyy wants you to be stealthy, and if you so much as alert a single enemy at the edge of a camp, you can look forward to being ganked by 20+ troops. Bow and arrow is inconsistent as shit, and lack of auto-targetting is a fucking joke when you're trying to fight one enemy, and turn around a hundred and eighty degrees to throw yourself at another instead. It's Sekiro all over again, where genuinely awful combat ruins what's otherwise a beautiful looking game.

How fucking difficult is it to make a single good "Samurai" game that isn't Nioh?

Your first mistake was trying to do stealth.


I never wanted to do stealth in the first place. Basically every mission I've played, however, either straight up requires stealth, or it has me dealing with hostages who got killed the moment I try to play aggressively, which immediately fails the mission and sets me back. Combat is also annoying when you do finally aggro and immediately have to fight several enemies that require constant stance switching, that spawn from nowhere.

On another note, upon killing my fiftieth Ronin in the second area of the island, I realize that my absolute favourite part of the game was literally the intro, because it was just Samurai in Samurai armour doing cool Samurai shit, fighting a giant battle on the beach, and not dumb peasants and Ronin running around like Assassins Creed.

The few missions with Ryuzo and the band of Ronin were still the funner of the main missions. Too bad they had to have them betray you and totally ruin the rest of the game. Can't even have a band of rogue Samurai doing adventurous Samurai shenanigans. This shit is trying way too hard to be Assassins Creed.


Meanwhile, I've also been playing Code Vein for the first time, and I'm enjoying it way, way more. Combat is infinitely better (enemy lock-on is stiff though), I actually enjoy the gameplay loop as well as exploration, and I'm enjoying the plot a lot more than I initially thought I would. Also got the DLC's. It's by far the more enjoyable of the two games for me. I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:28 am

Rostavykhan wrote:Ghost of Tsushima's combat is fucking terrible.

The game really, reeeaaaallllyyy wants you to be stealthy, and if you so much as alert a single enemy at the edge of a camp, you can look forward to being ganked by 20+ troops. Bow and arrow is inconsistent as shit, and lack of auto-targetting is a fucking joke when you're trying to fight one enemy, and turn around a hundred and eighty degrees to throw yourself at another instead. It's Sekiro all over again, where genuinely awful combat ruins what's otherwise a beautiful looking game.

How fucking difficult is it to make a single good "Samurai" game that isn't Nioh?

How can you not like the combat system in Sekiro? The game is a masterpiece.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:10 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Your first mistake was trying to do stealth.

Personally I've had a lot of success with the combat. The camera could serve to be a bit more zoomed out at times, but otherwise I've had no real issues, and it looks cool as hell when you get a good combo off.

Funnily enough I did have issues with the larger camps where I'd deliberately aggro a bunch of guys at the main gate, but their 20 odd mates in the rest of camp would be otherwise unawares of their gate guards screaming in agony.

Im enjoying the stealth and the frontal combat quite a lot, though i prefer straight up fighting the Mongols. Only issue i have with the game so far is i wish you could lock on. You can lock on in duels and when you are fighting one or two enemies its not too bad but sometimes fighting larger groups is a bit awkward.

Ive now go my standoff skill up to being able to kill three people and its soo satisfying.

That's a good shout. I've been liberating a load of hostages lately by kicking the front door in and slaughtering the lot. Does mean I have to manage the occasional guy running off to try and kill them, so a more robust lock on mechanic would be great.
I've found the stealth to be adequate. I find the parkour aspects to be a bit unpolished at times, but they're definitely serviceable. Helped by what I feel are some forgiving detection mechanics.
Actually, I think it might just be the automated interaction in general rather than the parkour specifically. There's definitely been a few times where it feels like the hardest challenge in the game is getting Jin to interact with a ladder.
It's not too bad, but it's happened enough times to be noticeable.

Nothing like coming across a bandit group of 3, stand off killing them all, then swiping right to clean off your blade. Feels fucking cool man.

To paraphrase my brother, this game is bringing out my inner weeb, and I can't say I'm unhappy about it.

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:16 am

Rostavykhan wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Your first mistake was trying to do stealth.


I never wanted to do stealth in the first place. Basically every mission I've played, however, either straight up requires stealth, or it has me dealing with hostages who got killed the moment I try to play aggressively, which immediately fails the mission and sets me back. Combat is also annoying when you do finally aggro and immediately have to fight several enemies that require constant stance switching, that spawn from nowhere.

Dunno what to tell you mate.

The missions I've played either stealth was optional, or easy enough to get through quickly without any trouble. Even the regular hostage ones have quite a forgiving timer on hostage death. Usually some dude with a big marker screams in their face for about 30 seconds before actually doing anything. Usually a quick arrow or kunai to the back will deaggro them from hostages.

While getting mobbed can go downhill pretty quick, I've never come across a fight I lost where I didn't think I could have won had I not fucked up. I did learn early on to get the arrow parry and prioritise archers though.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:11 am

Alvecia wrote:
Rostavykhan wrote:
I never wanted to do stealth in the first place. Basically every mission I've played, however, either straight up requires stealth, or it has me dealing with hostages who got killed the moment I try to play aggressively, which immediately fails the mission and sets me back. Combat is also annoying when you do finally aggro and immediately have to fight several enemies that require constant stance switching, that spawn from nowhere.

Dunno what to tell you mate.

The missions I've played either stealth was optional, or easy enough to get through quickly without any trouble. Even the regular hostage ones have quite a forgiving timer on hostage death. Usually some dude with a big marker screams in their face for about 30 seconds before actually doing anything. Usually a quick arrow or kunai to the back will deaggro them from hostages.

While getting mobbed can go downhill pretty quick, I've never come across a fight I lost where I didn't think I could have won had I not fucked up. I did learn early on to get the arrow parry and prioritise archers though.

Setting Archers in GoT on fire eases the pain in my soul

Even better now that i have explosive arrows.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:57 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Dunno what to tell you mate.

The missions I've played either stealth was optional, or easy enough to get through quickly without any trouble. Even the regular hostage ones have quite a forgiving timer on hostage death. Usually some dude with a big marker screams in their face for about 30 seconds before actually doing anything. Usually a quick arrow or kunai to the back will deaggro them from hostages.

While getting mobbed can go downhill pretty quick, I've never come across a fight I lost where I didn't think I could have won had I not fucked up. I did learn early on to get the arrow parry and prioritise archers though.

Setting Archers in GoT on fire eases the pain in my soul

Even better now that i have explosive arrows.

Preach. I'm something of a fan of sticky bombs myself

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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:30 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:Well, I officially give up on Red Dead 2. I can't figure out how to fix this bug keeping the missions from appearing, and I don't wanna restart, so I just uninstalled it.

Took up too much space anyway.

Follow up: I am a complete retard. Turns out I just had to do that mission in Blackwater. Which I thought I couldn't do, cause it was in like a 5 star wanted zone...and then I discovered you just have to sneak across a river to get around them.

I restarted my goddamn game for no reason...
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Postby Skylus » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:24 pm

gonna test out my $200 capture card tomorrow for Origami King, will give updates I guess...
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:01 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Well, I officially give up on Red Dead 2. I can't figure out how to fix this bug keeping the missions from appearing, and I don't wanna restart, so I just uninstalled it.

Took up too much space anyway.

Follow up: I am a complete retard. Turns out I just had to do that mission in Blackwater. Which I thought I couldn't do, cause it was in like a 5 star wanted zone...and then I discovered you just have to sneak across a river to get around them.

I restarted my goddamn game for no reason...

:lol:
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:25 am

Fun with Satisfactory: Setting up autopilot for a massive truck that sends it barrelling downhill at ~90kph along an artificial suspended highway. Is it possible to be run over by your own vehicles in this game? I'm sure I'll find out if I ever have a reason to walk up to where I mine my quartz. Either that or I'll be jumping off to my death/finding out how well the parachutes work. Also uranium: Bad™.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:34 am

I have completed the first Act in Ghost of Tsushima

Rescued lord Shimura and fought against Ryuzo (which was a betrayal i was not shocked by at all. I kind of thought something like that would happen when you rescue his men and they were being fed by the Mongols and allowed to Sing) and ive now got access to the middle section of the Island.


Im having a lot of fun with this game, as long as it hold up i think this might be my game of the year. TLOU2 was pretty good but i think this will beat it for me.

Also one more singing cricket and i got another instrument! Woo woo!
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Postby Names Are Too Hard » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:42 pm

I have learned that I am shit at


1: stealth

2: kayaks

3: stealth in kayaks
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:43 pm

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:59 pm

Just how grindy are the pokemon games anyway? I mean, historically.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:30 am

Got the cute charm glitch in Pokemon Platinum and it only took me 1 hour to get.

24 shinies so far.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:47 am

Purpelia wrote:Just how grindy are the pokemon games anyway? I mean, historically.

Very in the earlier games, but as the games go on they've introduced more and more ways to make it less grindy.

There's still some aspect of grind to it in the latest game, but generally unless you're trying to reach end game lvl 100, good natured, maxed EV/IVs, you won't need to grind at all really.

Gen 1 on the other hand, at least in my experience, require several hours spent in the nearest patch of grass to the town of the gym I was trying to beat, just wailing on wild pokemon to get my team up to snuff.
Possibly days for the elite 4.

But then it's hard to say what was game difficulty, or me being a kid and not knowing how to git gud.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:03 am

Carrion is out today boys.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:24 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Carrion is out today boys.

The Hell is Carrion?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:30 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Carrion is out today boys.

The Hell is Carrion?

Its like a reverse horror game where you play as this horrible tentacle monster thing, and hunt down and kill people in a facility you were imprisoned in to help you evolve and grow. Its an 8bit-ish sidescroller

here is a trailer

Its out on steam today
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:07 am

Microsoft's live event thing is happening now.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:54 am

Can someone just like inject Star Wars Squadrons into my veins? I have been watching videos from people who have gotten to play it a bit and I am fucking hyped. October cannot come soon enough.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:56 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Microsoft's live event thing is happening now.

Halo Infinite looked cool, Stalker 2 gets me excited a bit, new 40k game featuring the imperial guard though it looks like it might be a coop shooter. Hope it has single player too.

Yup its being done by fatshark who dod the vermintide warhammer games, so 4 player coop.
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