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Anything and Everything
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Postby Dresderstan » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:17 am

Yeah I wouldn't say Fallout has been in decline since Bethesda acquired the franchise. Granted I only played 4 recently, but from seeing videos of 3 and New Vegas, I'd say the series was at it's best during 3, NV, and 4, the series only recently collapsed come 76. Maybe the series can pick up again with 5 in 2022 (that's my estimate) and if they can;t, then the series might very well be doomed to a legacy of failure from this point onwards.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:33 pm

Dresderstan wrote:Yeah I wouldn't say Fallout has been in decline since Bethesda acquired the franchise. Granted I only played 4 recently, but from seeing videos of 3 and New Vegas, I'd say the series was at it's best during 3, NV, and 4, the series only recently collapsed come 76. Maybe the series can pick up again with 5 in 2022 (that's my estimate) and if they can;t, then the series might very well be doomed to a legacy of failure from this point onwards.

The warning signs were there in 4 though, as the storytelling went to shit. The next one needs to move away from multiplayer and concentrate on the fundamentals.
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Postby Imperial isa » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:32 am

Make you wonder how much RPG there going to be in Starfield going on how much of it was in FO4.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:46 am

Imperial isa wrote:Make you wonder how much RPG there going to be in Starfield going on how much of it was in FO4.

I think after the mildness of Fallout 4, into the disaster that was Fallout 76, everyone will be looking at Bethesda games with a lot more skepticism from now on.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:49 am

Alvecia wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:Make you wonder how much RPG there going to be in Starfield going on how much of it was in FO4.

I think after the mildness of Fallout 4, into the disaster that was Fallout 76, everyone will be looking at Bethesda games with a lot more skepticism from now on.

Another problem with F4 is that it is a lot more difficult to make mods for. Much of the extended life of F3 and NV is owed to the modding community. The next iteration needs to be a lot easier to make mods for.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:55 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I think after the mildness of Fallout 4, into the disaster that was Fallout 76, everyone will be looking at Bethesda games with a lot more skepticism from now on.

Another problem with F4 is that it is a lot more difficult to make mods for. Much of the extended life of F3 and NV is owed to the modding community. The next iteration needs to be a lot easier to make mods for.

If it was easy to make mods for Fallout 4 then Bethesda wouldn't be able to sell mods.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Another problem with F4 is that it is a lot more difficult to make mods for. Much of the extended life of F3 and NV is owed to the modding community. The next iteration needs to be a lot easier to make mods for.

If it was easy to make mods for Fallout 4 then Bethesda wouldn't be able to sell mods.

Shoulda seen FO76's extreme monetisation coming really.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:18 am

Alvecia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If it was easy to make mods for Fallout 4 then Bethesda wouldn't be able to sell mods.

Shoulda seen FO76's extreme monetisation coming really.

The surprising part of that was that they couldn't fit a game around their monetisations.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:21 am

Ifreann wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Shoulda seen FO76's extreme monetisation coming really.

The surprising part of that was that they couldn't fit a game around their monetisations.

That said, I wouldn't have ever called the Creation Engine "stable".
They had to basically redesign the way weapons work from the ground up just to get some passable gun play in Fallout 4. I think trying to weld multiplayer onto it might have been the straw that broke the engine's back.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:53 am

Alvecia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The surprising part of that was that they couldn't fit a game around their monetisations.

That said, I wouldn't have ever called the Creation Engine "stable".
They had to basically redesign the way weapons work from the ground up just to get some passable gun play in Fallout 4. I think trying to weld multiplayer onto it might have been the straw that broke the engine's back.

That does seem to be the root cause of a lot of the problems.
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:46 pm

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:12 pm

Dresderstan wrote:Yeah I wouldn't say Fallout has been in decline since Bethesda acquired the franchise. Granted I only played 4 recently, but from seeing videos of 3 and New Vegas, I'd say the series was at it's best during 3, NV, and 4, the series only recently collapsed come 76. Maybe the series can pick up again with 5 in 2022 (that's my estimate) and if they can;t, then the series might very well be doomed to a legacy of failure from this point onwards.


No chance of FO5 any time soon. Starfield and ES6 are coming first (in that order), and we still don't even have anything approaching a release date for Starfield.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:17 am

Cisairse wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Yeah I wouldn't say Fallout has been in decline since Bethesda acquired the franchise. Granted I only played 4 recently, but from seeing videos of 3 and New Vegas, I'd say the series was at it's best during 3, NV, and 4, the series only recently collapsed come 76. Maybe the series can pick up again with 5 in 2022 (that's my estimate) and if they can;t, then the series might very well be doomed to a legacy of failure from this point onwards.


No chance of FO5 any time soon. Starfield and ES6 are coming first (in that order), and we still don't even have anything approaching a release date for Starfield.

It's actually a good thing, as it will give them more time to reflect on where they went wrong before they make F5.
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:36 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
No chance of FO5 any time soon. Starfield and ES6 are coming first (in that order), and we still don't even have anything approaching a release date for Starfield.

It's actually a good thing, as it will give them more time to reflect on where they went wrong before they make F5.

Assuming they don't double down on those mistakes in Starfield and ES6
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Postby Licana » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:45 am

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Cisairse wrote:
No chance of FO5 any time soon. Starfield and ES6 are coming first (in that order), and we still don't even have anything approaching a release date for Starfield.

It's actually a good thing, as it will give them more time to reflect on where they went wrong before they make F5.

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Postby Barboneia » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:25 pm

Man, I can’t wait for Doom Eternal. I haven’t been excited for a game in a while.


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Barboneia wrote:Man, I can’t wait for Doom Eternal. I haven’t been excited for a game in a while.


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But robot dinosaurs.

Robot dinosaurs!
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But robot dinosaurs.

Robot dinosaurs!

That's actually why I never picked it up. The whole robot dinosaur thing was kinda dumb.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:06 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:But robot dinosaurs.

Robot dinosaurs!

That's actually why I never picked it up. The whole robot dinosaur thing was kinda dumb.

:o
Robot dinosaurs are obviously cool.
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