Thread for Gamers IX: God Howard Starfield Edition

[Purpelia]

I didn't come to this conclusion from a single instance of a unity game being garbage. When 50 different chefs make terrible meals using the same "pots and pans", it's hardly unreasonable to presume the fault lies in their dirty equipment.

It isn't a totally terrible engine though. Games like Ori And the Blind Forest, Hearthstone, and Cuphead were made with Unity, same as the ten-thousand low quality asset flips on Steam or the Google Store.

It's mostly a case of the engine being powerful, but also very accessible, so while it is possible to make great games with enough know-how and effort, it's also easy to just cobble together crap and toss it out.

This. It's kind of like Flash used to be in that respect. Only worse in some respects in that it actually openly advertises it self and markets towards the wide audience of amateurs. And this only makes the crap to quality product ratio worse. But in the hands of someone who knows what he is doing Unity can do miracles.

[Ifreann]

Cool, Receiver II. Instant wishlist.

Receiver, if you didn't know, is an FPS with highly detailed gun handling controls. In most other games with guns you press a single button to reload, but in Receiver there's a button linked to every action you take with the gun. So, suppose you have an M1911, no spare and loaded magazines, and you fire the last round. The magazine is empty and the slide is locked back. To fully reload you:

Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z seven times to load loose rounds into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press t to release the slide lock
Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z to load one more round into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press f to cock the hammer

You could also release the slide lock first, and if you do you'll have to press r to pull back the slide when you have the gun drawn and a loaded magazine inserted to chamber a round. Also there's a safety switch you control with v.

[Purpelia]

Cool, Receiver II. Instant wishlist.

Receiver, if you didn't know, is an FPS with highly detailed gun handling controls. In most other games with guns you press a single button to reload, but in Receiver there's a button linked to every action you take with the gun. So, suppose you have an M1911, no spare and loaded magazines, and you fire the last round. The magazine is empty and the slide is locked back. To fully reload you:

Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z seven times to load loose rounds into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press t to release the slide lock
Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z to load one more round into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press f to cock the hammer

You could also release the slide lock first, and if you do you'll have to press r to pull back the slide when you have the gun drawn and a loaded magazine inserted to chamber a round. Also there's a safety switch you control with v.

Honestly that degree of complexity sounds unrealistic to me. I mean, this is just conjecture. But I would expect that for anyone used to handling firearms the act of reloading would be something that is so ingrained in their muscle memory that simply clicking a button would be a more realistic simulation than having to manually remember and click each of those keys.

[Ifreann]

Cool, Receiver II. Instant wishlist.

Receiver, if you didn't know, is an FPS with highly detailed gun handling controls. In most other games with guns you press a single button to reload, but in Receiver there's a button linked to every action you take with the gun. So, suppose you have an M1911, no spare and loaded magazines, and you fire the last round. The magazine is empty and the slide is locked back. To fully reload you:

Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z seven times to load loose rounds into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press t to release the slide lock
Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z to load one more round into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press f to cock the hammer

You could also release the slide lock first, and if you do you'll have to press r to pull back the slide when you have the gun drawn and a loaded magazine inserted to chamber a round. Also there's a safety switch you control with v.

Honestly that degree of complexity sounds unrealistic to me. I mean, this is just conjecture. But I would expect that for anyone used to handling firearms the act of reloading would be something that is so ingrained in their muscle memory that simply clicking a button would be a more realistic simulation than having to manually remember and click each of those keys.

Sure, but the premise of Receiver isn't that your character is some sort of elite soldier or anything like that. You're a person in some kind of cult who may not have actually gotten any firearms training. At first it's difficult and takes a lot of focus, and possibly having a list of instructions on-screen, to do anything with your gun, but if you play a lot you get used to it.

[Licana]

Cool, Receiver II. Instant wishlist.

Receiver, if you didn't know, is an FPS with highly detailed gun handling controls. In most other games with guns you press a single button to reload, but in Receiver there's a button linked to every action you take with the gun. So, suppose you have an M1911, no spare and loaded magazines, and you fire the last round. The magazine is empty and the slide is locked back. To fully reload you:

Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z seven times to load loose rounds into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press t to release the slide lock
Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z to load one more round into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press f to cock the hammer

You could also release the slide lock first, and if you do you'll have to press r to pull back the slide when you have the gun drawn and a loaded magazine inserted to chamber a round. Also there's a safety switch you control with v.

Sounds like a concept that would work better as a VR game.

[Heloin]

You know what, I think Death Stranding just pushed the Outer Worlds out of my top game of 2019. I'm enjoying the hell out of Amazon Climbing Simulator 2020, kinda wish there was even less combat.

Still haven't played Goose Honking Revolution or Disco Elysium but I'll get around to those probably in January.

[Ifreann]

Cool, Receiver II. Instant wishlist.

Receiver, if you didn't know, is an FPS with highly detailed gun handling controls. In most other games with guns you press a single button to reload, but in Receiver there's a button linked to every action you take with the gun. So, suppose you have an M1911, no spare and loaded magazines, and you fire the last round. The magazine is empty and the slide is locked back. To fully reload you:

Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z seven times to load loose rounds into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press t to release the slide lock
Press e to eject the magazine
Press ~/` to holster the gun
Press z to load one more round into the magazine
Press~/`to draw the gun
Press z to insert the magazine
Press f to cock the hammer

You could also release the slide lock first, and if you do you'll have to press r to pull back the slide when you have the gun drawn and a loaded magazine inserted to chamber a round. Also there's a safety switch you control with v.

Sounds like a concept that would work better as a VR game.

I dunno, wouldn't motion controls just have you making the broad gestures of operating the gun rather than doing specific things in the right order to make it go bang?

[Licana]

Sounds like a concept that would work better as a VR game.

I dunno, wouldn't motion controls just have you making the broad gestures of operating the gun rather than doing specific things in the right order to make it go bang?

Not really. Even in popular and accessible VR shooters (Pavlov, Boneworks, etc) you have to go through the process of reloading in the correct order or else the weapon won't work. Most skip the process of loading rounds into a magazine, because there's very little reason to do that in the field anyway. tbh from taking a glance at Receiver 1's gameplay it even looks like a VR shooter, if the steam page didn't explicitly tell me otherwise I probably would have assumed it was.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

Man that Dry Dock for Empyrean cost me an arm, a leg, another arm, another leg, a few bucks, and most of my sanity. But hey at least it's building. Also fuck tellurium and its grind.

What I imagine will happen in the first five minutes of flying

I dunno, wouldn't motion controls just have you making the broad gestures of operating the gun rather than doing specific things in the right order to make it go bang?

Not really. Even in popular and accessible VR shooters (Pavlov, Boneworks, etc) you have to go through the process of reloading in the correct order or else the weapon won't work. Most skip the process of loading rounds into a magazine, because there's very little reason to do that in the field anyway. tbh from taking a glance at Receiver 1's gameplay it even looks like a VR shooter, if the steam page didn't explicitly tell me otherwise I probably would have assumed it was.

A non-VR game with VR-like controls, essentially? That would be funny to watch.

[Aaaaaa]

Not really. Even in popular and accessible VR shooters (Pavlov, Boneworks, etc) you have to go through the process of reloading in the correct order or else the weapon won't work. Most skip the process of loading rounds into a magazine, because there's very little reason to do that in the field anyway. tbh from taking a glance at Receiver 1's gameplay it even looks like a VR shooter, if the steam page didn't explicitly tell me otherwise I probably would have assumed it was.

A non-VR game with VR-like controls, essentially? That would be funny to watch.

Surgeon Simulator?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

A great christmas gift, another Game Dungeon!

[Rostavykhan]

I should really get to playing Monster Hunter: World some more. I played it for a bit, and then stopped because I wanted to play with friends and nobody would get on. Should really just play it through anyways, since it was fun.

Also, seeing a friend playing it has gotten me into the mood for play Resident Evil 4 for old time's sake.

[New haven america]

Playing San Andreas and I got to the Follow the Damn Train mission.

Was that supposed to be difficult or something? It only took me 3 tries and I only fell down twice. And I suck at games so what the fuck?

[Ameriganastan]

Playing San Andreas and I got to the Follow the Damn Train mission.

Was that supposed to be difficult or something? It only took me 3 tries and I only fell down twice. And I suck at games so what the fuck?

I don't think people have ever claimed it's hard. Just annoying.

[The New California Republic]

Playing San Andreas and I got to the Follow the Damn Train mission.

Was that supposed to be difficult or something? It only took me 3 tries and I only fell down twice. And I suck at games so what the fuck?

It became memeworthy because it actually is very easy to fuck it up, and Big Smoke's chastising comment when you do fail, said as if it is totally impossible to fail, is just misplaced.

[Ameriganastan]

Got $50 in Steam cash for Christmas from my brother. Grabbed me Last Year, The Witness, Totally Accurate Battle Simulator and Signal Simulator.

[Corrian]

So I got some more Cities: Skylines DLC for myself and Ace Combat 7. A bunch more for other people.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Got $50 in Steam cash for Christmas from my brother. Grabbed me Last Year, The Witness, Totally Accurate Battle Simulator and Signal Simulator.

TABS is a good laugh for a few hours. The Witness ive not played but ive seen some gameplay of, looked like a decent enough puzzle game.

[The New California Republic]

Got $50 in Steam cash for Christmas from my brother. Grabbed me Last Year, The Witness, Totally Accurate Battle Simulator and Signal Simulator.

For one reason or another I have not bought anything from Steam in years.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Got $50 in Steam cash for Christmas from my brother. Grabbed me Last Year, The Witness, Totally Accurate Battle Simulator and Signal Simulator.

For one reason or another I have not bought anything from Steam in years.

last thing i got was the new DLC for Warhammer 2, then before that Disco Elysium the other month.

Both good purchases.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Fuck hydrocity zone.

Fuck stage one that goes on for a million years, fuck stage 2's boss that decides not to fucking spawn bubbles. Fuck sonic drowning mechanics.

[Ameriganastan]

Yeah, I'm getting a refund for Signal Simulator. This game is fucking boring.

[Skylus]

Got Monster Hunter World and AC Origins yay

[Kowani]

Got Monster Hunter World and AC Origins yay

Origins is so much fun!

Having multiple playstyles to choose from was neat, but I preferred a Bow/Stealth combination.

[The Biggles Syndicate]

Okay I'm building my Railjack right now. Fuselage is getting repaired. Why it takes 12 hours, idk other than time to collect resources. Stupid, there should at least be either shortened time or a rush mechanic.

The man in the wall can fuck right off. He's been spawning at least twice a day now for me.