Thread for Gamers IX: God Howard Starfield Edition

[Renoa]

I want to get my hands on some of that pure, uncut Watch Dogs: Legion and inject it directly into my veins. I don't want to wait until October, give it to me now.

[Andsed]

I want to get my hands on some of that pure, uncut Watch Dogs: Legion and inject it directly into my veins. I don't want to wait until October, give it to me now.

Same. I already pre ordered it. I honestly loved the first watch dog game. And I cannot wait for this one.

[Renoa]

I want to get my hands on some of that pure, uncut Watch Dogs: Legion and inject it directly into my veins. I don't want to wait until October, give it to me now.

Same. I already pre ordered it. I honestly loved the first watch dog game. And I cannot wait for this one.

I've never played the first Watch Dogs. I got it for free on the Epic Games stores but have not gotten around to it yet. Watch Dogs 2, however, I love. I very rarely complete the story modes of games before I lose interest and start a different game, but I did it for Watch Dogs 2. I love the game's atmosphere and gameplay mechanics are pretty nice. The music is fantastic too.

[Andsed]

Same. I already pre ordered it. I honestly loved the first watch dog game. And I cannot wait for this one.

I've never played the first Watch Dogs. I got it for free on the Epic Games stores but have not gotten around to it yet. Watch Dogs 2, however, I love. I very rarely complete the story modes of games before I lose interest and start a different game, but I did it for Watch Dogs 2. I love the game's atmosphere and gameplay mechanics are pretty nice. The music is fantastic too.

I actually have not played the second. I will probably need to get around to it son.

[Immoren]

Have you ever seen a viking? They aren't exactly renowned for subtlety.

Leaping off a building and landing wristblades first onto someone on the ground isn't subtle.

Wel, historical Hassashim had subtetly of a car bomber.

[North German Realm]

How does either of those not make sense? While likely not doing what you do in game both pirates and vikings did use subterfuge.

Have you ever seen a viking? They aren't exactly renowned for subtlety.

Point of order, Hashashin weren't known for their subtlety, and the idea of "stealth" in the games is less subtle than even the shoutiest Viking or the cannon-iest Pirate. My main problem is the yikes nature making the murderous viking settler colonists the good guys and Alfred the bad guy for... checks notes... fighting against a foreign aggression attempting to end his people's way of life.

[Purpelia]

Have you ever seen a viking? They aren't exactly renowned for subtlety.

Point of order, Hashashin weren't known for their subtlety, and the idea of "stealth" in the games is less subtle than even the shoutiest Viking or the cannon-iest Pirate. My main problem is the yikes nature making the murderous viking settler colonists the good guys and Alfred the bad guy for... checks notes... fighting against a foreign aggression attempting to end his people's way of life.

So basically the modern western political migration narrative? Why are you surprised?

[Ameriganastan]

Have you ever seen a viking? They aren't exactly renowned for subtlety.

Typically that is true. But that does not mean vikings were never subtle. There were plenty of incidents in which they did use subtler methods. Besides, this is historical fiction. Getting all up in arms about the history of it is kinda pointless.

Well someone has to get up in arms about stupid stuff. I don't let inane writing choices slip by without due criticism.

[Heloin]

Have you ever seen a viking? They aren't exactly renowned for subtlety.

Point of order, Hashashin weren't known for their subtlety, and the idea of "stealth" in the games is less subtle than even the shoutiest Viking or the cannon-iest Pirate. My main problem is the yikes nature making the murderous viking settler colonists the good guys and Alfred the bad guy for... checks notes... fighting against a foreign aggression attempting to end his people's way of life.

I'm going to doubt that it's going to be that clear cut when playing the games. Unless your expecting the main game to stop for a twelve hour lecture on the complexities of the Danelaw, Alfred the Great, and the Viking Age. That's what Discovery Tour is for.

Typically that is true. But that does not mean vikings were never subtle. There were plenty of incidents in which they did use subtler methods. Besides, this is historical fiction. Getting all up in arms about the history of it is kinda pointless.

Well someone has to get up in arms about stupid stuff. I don't let inane writing choices slip by without due criticism.

Your getting up in arms about nonissues. The Assassin's of the games have nothing to do with the ultra radical sect of Nizari Isma'ilism that existed during the Crusades so why is a Norse Viking such a stretch?

[Ameriganastan]

Your getting up in arms about nonissues. The Assassin's of the games have nothing to do with the ultra radical sect of Nizari Isma'ilism that existed during the Crusades so why is a Norse Viking such a stretch?

Assassin implies sneaky. Vikings ain't sneaky. Neither are pirates. There's a reason I quit that franchise once I heard about Black Flag.

[Hurdergaryp]

Because nobody expects a pirate or a viking to be an assassin, logic dictates that the pirate/viking assassin is the most efficient assassin. They never saw it coming!

[Andsed]

Your getting up in arms about nonissues. The Assassin's of the games have nothing to do with the ultra radical sect of Nizari Isma'ilism that existed during the Crusades so why is a Norse Viking such a stretch?

Assassin implies sneaky. Vikings ain't sneaky. Neither are pirates. There's a reason I quit that franchise once I heard about Black Flag.

That is just incorrect. Pirates were sneaky all the time. Infact a common way for them to plunder ships was to raise a false flag, use barrels and such to slow down their ships, and use painted canvases to cover up their guns so they could sneak up to ships and then raise their flag. And while Vikings raids were not exactly subtle they did use sneaky tactics. Just look at the conflict between Guthrum of the Great Heathen Army and Alfred of Wessex for an example of that.

It seems you have fallen into the common misconception that Vikings were just simple raiders and Pirates went in guns blazing all the time when really that is just incorrect.

Also Black Flag was one of the best games in the series so I have no idea why one would quit the series because of it.

[Ameriganastan]

Because nobody expects a pirate or a viking to be an assassin, logic dictates that the pirate/viking assassin is the most efficient assassin. They never saw it coming!

40K logic doesn't apply here.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Yep.

Battle of Wounded Knee, march across Samar (the 'Kill Everyone Over Ten' order god what the fuck was that),My Lai Massacre, Haditha massacre, and many more.

All US war crimes. I'd also point out that sense the US army esports is run by the US army and is there for government funded, the US federal government and commander in chief Donald Trump is in fact censoring people for mentioning US war crimes.
The federal government and the leader of the US military takes responsibly for the actions of people under him including the moderation and running of the US army Esports channel.

Thing is I do not see why this is worth discussing. I mean, any other behavior would be frankly insane from them. Of course they are going to censor all opinions that do not match their goals.
It would take a special sort of utter insanity for the american government to actually own up to being the genocidal, violent, murderous, imperialist colonialist monsters that they are.

When the first article of the constitution prevents censorship by the US government and now seeing that an official arm of the US government is censoring discussion, then I see that is very worth discussing. It is a clear clamp down on the peoples liberty to discuss events.

[Hurdergaryp]

Because nobody expects a pirate or a viking to be an assassin, logic dictates that the pirate/viking assassin is the most efficient assassin. They never saw it coming!

40K logic doesn't apply here.

That's what they want you to think!

[Heloin]

Your getting up in arms about nonissues. The Assassin's of the games have nothing to do with the ultra radical sect of Nizari Isma'ilism that existed during the Crusades so why is a Norse Viking such a stretch?

Assassin implies sneaky. Vikings ain't sneaky. Neither are pirates. There's a reason I quit that franchise once I heard about Black Flag.

Firstly since when are pirates not sneaky? Secondly are you thinking of Norse going on a viking or are you thinking of Hägar the Horrible?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

>complains about colonialism
>NSG is colonizing this thread

When the US government is actively censoring gamers who talk about war crimes from the US yeah this needs to be discussed. Its is actual non ironic gamer suppression.

[Andsed]

Assassin implies sneaky. Vikings ain't sneaky. Neither are pirates. There's a reason I quit that franchise once I heard about Black Flag.

Firstly since when are pirates not sneaky? Secondly are you thinking of Norse going on a viking or are you thinking of Hägar the Horrible?

It feels like he thinks that pirates operated like they do in Black Flag or other stereotypical pirate media. With them exchanging cannon volleys with enemy ships all the time.

[Ameriganastan]

That is just incorrect. Pirates were sneaky all the time. Infact a common way for them to plunder ships was to raise a false flag, use barrels and such to slow down their ships, and use painted canvases to cover up their guns so they could sneak up to ships and then raise their flag. And while Vikings raids were not exactly subtle they did use sneaky tactics. Just look at the conflict between Guthrum of the Great Heathen Army and Alfred of Wessex for an example of that.

It seems you have fallen into the common misconception that Vikings were just simple raiders and Pirates went in guns blazing all the time when really that is just incorrect.

Also Black Flag was one of the best games in the series so I have no idea why one would quit the series because of it.

I think I've given a pretty good idea of why I quit there. I wanted a game about an assassin, not a pirate.

Firstly since when are pirates not sneaky? Secondly are you thinking of Norse going on a viking or are you thinking of Hägar the Horrible?

They're pirates. You tell me what's sneaky about pirates. I watch the History Channel. They don't sound very sneaky to me. Also...who is Hagar The Horrible?

[Andsed]

That is just incorrect. Pirates were sneaky all the time. Infact a common way for them to plunder ships was to raise a false flag, use barrels and such to slow down their ships, and use painted canvases to cover up their guns so they could sneak up to ships and then raise their flag. And while Vikings raids were not exactly subtle they did use sneaky tactics. Just look at the conflict between Guthrum of the Great Heathen Army and Alfred of Wessex for an example of that.

It seems you have fallen into the common misconception that Vikings were just simple raiders and Pirates went in guns blazing all the time when really that is just incorrect.

Also Black Flag was one of the best games in the series so I have no idea why one would quit the series because of it.

I think I've given a pretty good idea of why I quit there. I wanted a game about an assassin, not a pirate.

Firstly since when are pirates not sneaky? Secondly are you thinking of Norse going on a viking or are you thinking of Hägar the Horrible?

They're pirates. You tell me what's sneaky about pirates. I watch the History Channel. They don't sound very sneaky to me. Also...who is Hagar The Horrible?

You can play as both.

And the history channel is not exactly the most accurate of sources. You do understand pirates did not act like the movies or games where they are just going around exchanging cannon volleys with enemy ships?

[Valrifell]

Black Flag is the best in the franchise and if you think Assassin's creed was very good at being a stealth game, I introduce you to the combat mechanics of the Ezio trilogy where it was trivial cutting down large amounts of guards. Plus there's all those big set pieces, including the one where you drove a Renaissance tank.

Face it, you can't have witnesses if they're all dead.

[Ameriganastan]

You can play as both.

And the history channel is not exactly the most accurate of sources. You do understand pirates did not act like the movies or games where they are just going around exchanging cannon volleys with enemy ships?

I understand the most famous pirate ever was so unsubtle that he walked around with lit fuses in his beard and carried like six guns.

Yeah, real stealthy.

[Heloin]

Firstly since when are pirates not sneaky? Secondly are you thinking of Norse going on a viking or are you thinking of Hägar the Horrible?

They're pirates. You tell me what's sneaky about pirates. I watch the History Channel. They don't sound very sneaky to me.

If your idea of History is the History Channel then I don't know what to say.

Also...who is Hagar The Horrible?

[Purpelia]

When the first article of the constitution prevents censorship by the US government and now seeing that an official arm of the US government is censoring discussion, then I see that is very worth discussing. It is a clear clamp down on the peoples liberty to discuss events.

What does your constitution have to do with anything? Your government is NOT preventing you from speaking your mind. The military is preventing you from doing so in a particular time and place of their choosing which happens to be owned by them leaving all other avenues open. By that logic your freedom of movement and assembly are also denied because you are not allowed to enter top secret government facilities and hang out there with known terrorists.

I mean, look at it this way. What would happen if you were to go to a public recruitment rally and try to do the same sort of thing there? Because this is a recruitment rally.

They're pirates. You tell me what's sneaky about pirates. I watch the History Channel. They don't sound very sneaky to me. Also...who is Hagar The Horrible?

The history channel is absolutely the worst possible place to learn anything about actual history. You would literally be better off not watching anything at all as that would at least preserve you from falsehood.

[Ameriganastan]

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Oh, that guy. Yeah, he wasn't in my Sunday paper.