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Best HOI political party

HOI3 Stalinist
1
6%
HOI3 Leninist
0
No votes
KR Syndicalist
6
33%
KR Radical Socialism
2
11%
HOI4 Anarchism
3
17%
HOI4 Communism
1
6%
Stupid Sexy Naz with your unbiased polls and quality posts.
5
28%
 
Total votes : 18

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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:18 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I have officially gotten two bloodlines with one character. This is the best thing ever.

Now if I could only get two previously played characters as Saints...

Speaking of, I think they decreased the Alexander bloodline event's chance of occurring again.


Lmao, it's funny you say that because that was one of the bloodlines I forged. I was rich enough to practically buy myself victory without effort, and then went on to fight and win two Crusades with the very same character giving a Crusader bloodline for being a shining example of a pious Christian warrior-emperor.

I think you have to have an ancestor with Greek culture in order to get the Alexander event, because so far I've only gotten it with a Greek Byzantine Emperor and a French Holy Roman Emperor that had a Greek Grandmother. That or it's tied to an Empire-tier title.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:27 pm

"Huskar, Iffy thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Imperial Reach, but when the IC Shitposts spammed again and the Threadites charged, the name they cried was “Serrus! Serrus! SERRUS!”'
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Serrus
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Postby Serrus » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:39 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:"Huskar, Iffy thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Imperial Reach, but when the IC Shitposts spammed again and the Threadites charged, the name they cried was “Serrus! Serrus! SERRUS!”'

You rang?
Also I tried playing a nomad. Just selecting them filled me with a sense of profound unease. Nomads are like Cthulu. Cthulu-sader Kings. Now I need to get the Cthulu event as the nomads. Granted, that requires playing nomads...
Glitterhoof, save me from this hell of my own creation.
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Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:42 pm

Serrus wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:"Huskar, Iffy thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Imperial Reach, but when the IC Shitposts spammed again and the Threadites charged, the name they cried was “Serrus! Serrus! SERRUS!”'

You rang?
Also I tried playing a nomad. Just selecting them filled me with a sense of profound unease. Nomads are like Cthulu. Cthulu-sader Kings. Now I need to get the Cthulu event as the nomads. Granted, that requires playing nomads...
Glitterhoof, save me from this hell of my own creation.

Title worthy honestly
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Abserdia
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Postby Abserdia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:14 pm

Serrus wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:"Huskar, Iffy thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Imperial Reach, but when the IC Shitposts spammed again and the Threadites charged, the name they cried was “Serrus! Serrus! SERRUS!”'

You rang?
Also I tried playing a nomad. Just selecting them filled me with a sense of profound unease. Nomads are like Cthulu. Cthulu-sader Kings. Now I need to get the Cthulu event as the nomads. Granted, that requires playing nomads...
Glitterhoof, save me from this hell of my own creation.

Cxaxukluthader Kings.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Serrus wrote:You rang?
Also I tried playing a nomad. Just selecting them filled me with a sense of profound unease. Nomads are like Cthulu. Cthulu-sader Kings. Now I need to get the Cthulu event as the nomads. Granted, that requires playing nomads...
Glitterhoof, save me from this hell of my own creation.

Title worthy honestly

I would support it, but it's been like, 11 hours since our most recent title.
Black lives matter

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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:33 pm

You know I used to think "Prussia is for hipsters".

And yet, here I am, I keep playing Germany for some reason because I find it fascinating to watch the power dynamics shift so suddenly between the Great Powers in Victoria 2.

Of course, I've spent most of this second Germany game bullying Austria and France. Indeed, taking states from France launched me into the number one spot. I'm now debating whether I should suffer a Great War to make sure I knock France and Austria-Hungary out of power entirely or just cruise into first place for the rest of the game. Right now I'm not even halfway done with the game; it's 1886.

Also. German Korea. Cuz. Why not.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... _Korea.jpg
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:41 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:What's the best game for centuries long Kingdom rivalries?
Where I can make custom characters(even as simple as EU4's character system).


... Crusader Kings. It's even in the name. :lol:

Can't tell ya how many times me and the damn Abbasids/Arabian Empire crossed swords.

You know what I like in a game. Jingoism. Makes my Wargoal boner go up.

Why everybody gotta be so dang liberal all the dang time -_-

Daddy Kaiser Wilhelm needs more French states.
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Hanafuridake
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Posts: 5532
Founded: Sep 09, 2018
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:42 pm

I just read the thread title.

Okay, how did you find out about my Stellaris civilization?
Nation name in proper language: 花降岳|पुष्पद्वीप
Theravada Buddhist
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Lunas Legion
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Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:45 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:I just read the thread title.

Okay, how did you find out about my Stellaris civilization?


I think there should be a law that in every group of Stellaris players, at least one will have Murderous Fanatic Purifier BDSM Catgirls as their civilisation.
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Abserdia
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Abserdia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:46 pm

The Rich Port wrote:You know I used to think "Prussia is for hipsters".

And yet, here I am, I keep playing Germany for some reason because I find it fascinating to watch the power dynamics shift so suddenly between the Great Powers in Victoria 2.

Of course, I've spent most of this second Germany game bullying Austria and France. Indeed, taking states from France launched me into the number one spot. I'm now debating whether I should suffer a Great War to make sure I knock France and Austria-Hungary out of power entirely or just cruise into first place for the rest of the game. Right now I'm not even halfway done with the game; it's 1886.

Also. German Korea. Cuz. Why not.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... _Korea.jpg

What's the zaniest option?
Whatever it is, go for that.
Black lives matter

Recommend me shoegaze and ambient music.

So long, Frank Lloyd Wright
I can't believe your song is gone so soon...
I barely learned the tune
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The Rich Port
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Founded: Jul 29, 2008
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:50 pm

Abserdia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:You know I used to think "Prussia is for hipsters".

And yet, here I am, I keep playing Germany for some reason because I find it fascinating to watch the power dynamics shift so suddenly between the Great Powers in Victoria 2.

Of course, I've spent most of this second Germany game bullying Austria and France. Indeed, taking states from France launched me into the number one spot. I'm now debating whether I should suffer a Great War to make sure I knock France and Austria-Hungary out of power entirely or just cruise into first place for the rest of the game. Right now I'm not even halfway done with the game; it's 1886.

Also. German Korea. Cuz. Why not.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... _Korea.jpg

What's the zaniest option?
Whatever it is, go for that.


XD oh god.

Well I mean. I have been wondering.

Could I use my resources to help turn Texas into a great power?
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:53 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
... Crusader Kings. It's even in the name. :lol:

Can't tell ya how many times me and the damn Abbasids/Arabian Empire crossed swords.

You know what I like in a game. Jingoism. Makes my Wargoal boner go up.

Why everybody gotta be so dang liberal all the dang time -_-

Daddy Kaiser Wilhelm needs more French states.

But I'm only able to use the ruler designer on one ruler. :(


If you save the game and load it on the splash screen, you can edit individual rulers.

it's long and tedious, but it can be done... Which yeah, makes the question... Why do you wanna do that?
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Serrus
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Postby Serrus » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:54 pm

So those nomads I mentioned were my ancestors* the Magyars. I more-or-less immediately tribalized. Then I attained the high ground! These are my mass conversion options (Iconoclast and Sunni). I'm unreformed Tengri, in no position to reform it. What do I do? For clarity, this is my position. I have no clue how Moravia...did that.

*I use that word very loosely. My Granddad has Hungarian ancestry, for clarity.
Katganistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
You glorifted ducking wanabe sea pheasant

Platapusses are not rel

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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:58 pm

Serrus wrote:So those nomads I mentioned were my ancestors* the Magyars. I more-or-less immediately tribalized. Then I attained the high ground! These are my mass conversion options (Iconoclast and Sunni). I'm unreformed Tengri, in no position to reform it. What do I do? For clarity, this is my position. I have no clue how Moravia...did that.

*I use that word very loosely. My Granddad has Hungarian ancestry, for clarity.


If you wanna be OP, go Muslim.

I had A LOT of success as the Mongols, but my guess is you're more interested in more solid power.

In which case... You're not in a very good spot, Muslim or otherwise. You're looking at a very long period of either expanding to pump up your military numbers and/or slowly working your way up to Feudalism or Iqta. Staying tribal, I'm sure you know, is a bad idea and loses it's early game advantage as time goes on. Not to mention... Gavelkind sucks.

Also... What did Moravia do?
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Serrus
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Postby Serrus » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:03 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Serrus wrote:So those nomads I mentioned were my ancestors* the Magyars. I more-or-less immediately tribalized. Then I attained the high ground! These are my mass conversion options (Iconoclast and Sunni). I'm unreformed Tengri, in no position to reform it. What do I do? For clarity, this is my position. I have no clue how Moravia...did that.

*I use that word very loosely. My Granddad has Hungarian ancestry, for clarity.


If you wanna be OP, go Muslim.

I had A LOT of success as the Mongols, but my guess is you're more interested in more solid power.

In which case... You're not in a very good spot, Muslim or otherwise. You're looking at a very long period of either expanding to pump up your military numbers and/or slowly working your way up to Feudalism or Iqta. Staying tribal, I'm sure you know, is a bad idea and loses it's early game advantage as time goes on. Not to mention... Gavelkind sucks.

Also... What did Moravia do?

Moravia ate Kiev. I'm also most of the way towards Feudal. Just need the gold for the forts. I was similarly thinking Muslim, just wanted to see what you all thought.
Katganistan wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:maybe japan wanted the zombie attack.

Possible. Zombies are cool now.

Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.

This is why rules exist, kids!
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
You glorifted ducking wanabe sea pheasant

Platapusses are not rel

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The Imperial Reach
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Founded: Jun 22, 2018
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:11 pm

Serrus wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
If you wanna be OP, go Muslim.

I had A LOT of success as the Mongols, but my guess is you're more interested in more solid power.

In which case... You're not in a very good spot, Muslim or otherwise. You're looking at a very long period of either expanding to pump up your military numbers and/or slowly working your way up to Feudalism or Iqta. Staying tribal, I'm sure you know, is a bad idea and loses it's early game advantage as time goes on. Not to mention... Gavelkind sucks.

Also... What did Moravia do?

Moravia ate Kiev. I'm also most of the way towards Feudal. Just need the gold for the forts. I was similarly thinking Muslim, just wanted to see what you all thought.


Muslim if you want an easier game; Iconoclast if you don't. :p

Though given your position, Iconoclast might be the safer bet.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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Bralia
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Postby Bralia » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:28 pm

. . . I think I may have permanently destroyed the galactic market in my effort to acquire massive amounts of alloys.
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Ism
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ism » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:55 pm

Bralia wrote:. . . I think I may have permanently destroyed the galactic market in my effort to acquire massive amounts of alloys.


Congrats, you've out Mansa Musad Mansa Musa.

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Lunas Legion
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Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:17 am

Bralia wrote:. . . I think I may have permanently destroyed the galactic market in my effort to acquire massive amounts of alloys.


Crashing the galactic market with no survivors.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:58 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
Bralia wrote:. . . I think I may have permanently destroyed the galactic market in my effort to acquire massive amounts of alloys.


Crashing the galactic market with no survivors.

"If i take away your alloys, will you die?"
"It would be extremely painful"
"You're a big empire"
"For you"
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The Rich Port
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Founded: Jul 29, 2008
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:51 am

More than anything, I think I want to maintain a cool title for my main playable nation in Victoria 2, whether it's the German Empire (my new personal favorite), the People's Republic of America, stuff like that.

I've been trying to figure out how to maintain the Reactionaries in power to enable that but I can't quite figure out how to keep the unending tide of liberalism down. If only it could be called, like, the German Republic or the Weimar Republic or something... Oh well. :(
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:31 am

The Rich Port wrote:More than anything, I think I want to maintain a cool title for my main playable nation in Victoria 2, whether it's the German Empire (my new personal favorite), the People's Republic of America, stuff like that.

I've been trying to figure out how to maintain the Reactionaries in power to enable that but I can't quite figure out how to keep the unending tide of liberalism down. If only it could be called, like, the German Republic or the Weimar Republic or something... Oh well. :(

Is this before or after the Age of Liberalism?
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:08 am

Bralia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:More than anything, I think I want to maintain a cool title for my main playable nation in Victoria 2, whether it's the German Empire (my new personal favorite), the People's Republic of America, stuff like that.

I've been trying to figure out how to maintain the Reactionaries in power to enable that but I can't quite figure out how to keep the unending tide of liberalism down. If only it could be called, like, the German Republic or the Weimar Republic or something... Oh well. :(

Is this before or after the Age of Liberalism?


Way after. Couldn't handle the Jacobin revolt... Before that we went Communist, which, while cool, is a nightmare.
THOSE THAT SOW THORNS SHOULD NOT EXPECT FLOWERS
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:53 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Bralia wrote:Is this before or after the Age of Liberalism?


Way after. Couldn't handle the Jacobin revolt... Before that we went Communist, which, while cool, is a nightmare.

Hold on . . . you had a communist revolution before a jacobin revolt? And reactionaries in power now? Is that accurate?
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The Imperial Reach
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Founded: Jun 22, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Imperial Reach » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:03 am

Ism wrote:
Bralia wrote:. . . I think I may have permanently destroyed the galactic market in my effort to acquire massive amounts of alloys.


Congrats, you've out Mansa Musad Mansa Musa.


We can't even comprehend the levels of Mansa Musa Bralia is operating at.
Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
In the process of a massive retcon, like, massive
NS stats are the Devil's lettuce
I'm too lazy to make cool for a fancy sig

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