PDOX Games VIII: Communism Will Win

[Lunas Legion]

There are others, but they're either a) locked to WW2 only or b) buggy messes and even then they lack the scope of Paradox's games.

[United Muscovite Nations]

You people have NO fucking clue how game design works. Do ANY of you EVER pay attention? I'm am so fucking done with the sheer level of ignorance being spouted from so-called Paradox fans these days.

You just can't delay games when they are a few months from release just because you get a few better ideas for a feature.

When 1.1/Pompey is ready to release, I'll have dozens of new ideas of how to tweak and improve the game..

If you people hate the business model so much . . . why the fuck are you still here? This is actually a serious question. WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE? If you people are so up and done with this style of constant development, why are you continuing to buy these games and their DLCs? What are you doing in this community? I really want an explanation from the people who think they know better at how to make games than the professionals.

Johan is just plain lying there, you absolutely can delay a release a few months from release (Creative Assembly just did), moreover, they took content out of the release just to make it Day 1 DLC. It was ready at release, and should have been included in the game. Like I said, there was zero reason the Hellenic culture pack shouldn't have been in the game at release, unless you just want to maximize how much money you have. Which is fine, they're a private company, but it's a dick move to take things out of the release that are ready at release and then sell them for an extra $20. The Diadochi cover 1/4 to 1/3 of the map, they need content at release.

And the only reason I keep buying Paradox is because they're the only ones making this style of game, but once they're finished with this series of game and we have a complete timeline from Roman times to Victorian era, why on Earth would I keep buying their games? Would you be excited if they announced a Crusader Kings 3 5 or 6 years from now?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

There are others, but they're either a) locked to WW2 only or b) buggy messes and even then they lack the scope of Paradox's games.

The only good grand strategy games I can think of that aren't Paradox's are the Age of Empires games, and those haven't really aged as well as I might like. (And they're arguably just RTSes with a historical theme to them, anyway, so they might not even count.)

[Washington Resistance Army]

Tbh I'm really just into Paradox games for the modding scenes at this point. There's a lot of really talented people who work on all these games and arguably make better ideas and mechanics than Pdox themselves.

[Bralia]

You people have NO fucking clue how game design works. Do ANY of you EVER pay attention? I'm am so fucking done with the sheer level of ignorance being spouted from so-called Paradox fans these days.



If you people hate the business model so much . . . why the fuck are you still here? This is actually a serious question. WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE? If you people are so up and done with this style of constant development, why are you continuing to buy these games and their DLCs? What are you doing in this community? I really want an explanation from the people who think they know better at how to make games than the professionals.

I understand that it's difficult to make games, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize them for obvious flaws their system has.
I'm not saying that releasing missing content later was the wrong thing to do - I've defended that very decision earlier in this thread - but rather I'm saying that it shouldn't be a paid feature. Feel free to tell me how I don't know how game design works or whatever it is you're going to do, but it's my opinion, and I'll defend it if you want me to, but I'd rather not get into another pointless argument.

In what world has a patch ever been worth direct money?

And you know what? I'm going to use this post to express my deep-seated hatred towards myself, because I've already spent 20 minutes just trying to figure out where I would begin to start an argument. Because I am the WORST person at actually waging proper arguments. It's why I've never done a damn thing in NSG despite regularly lurking there. My brain has the organizational skills of a rampaging rhino in a Thai shop. Why do I start argumentative shit like this? It literally take me hours to write up a single page of anything. Constant rewrites, re-thoughts, re-wordings,-------GAAAAAAAH, my fucking brain! It stresses me out just trying to figure out my own damn thoughts and put it into a coherent sentence. Somebody put a bullet in me and shut me up. I'm clicking this submit button and going to sleep, my brain is a fucking mess even at the best of times.

[Ism]

You people have NO fucking clue how game design works. Do ANY of you EVER pay attention? I'm am so fucking done with the sheer level of ignorance being spouted from so-called Paradox fans these days.

You just can't delay games when they are a few months from release just because you get a few better ideas for a feature.

When 1.1/Pompey is ready to release, I'll have dozens of new ideas of how to tweak and improve the game..

If you people hate the business model so much . . . why the fuck are you still here? This is actually a serious question. WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE? If you people are so up and done with this style of constant development, why are you continuing to buy these games and their DLCs? What are you doing in this community? I really want an explanation from the people who think they know better at how to make games than the professionals.

Have you considered that they have already spent money on these games and their dlc, and so are going to continue playing them and sharing the events of their games with other players, because it would be ridiculous to stop playing games they've already payed (through the nose) for just because they dislike recent actions from Paradox? I mean, it's not like an mmo where to keep playing they have to keep paying, they already put the money into the game, they might as well get something out of it.

[Ism]

There are others, but they're either a) locked to WW2 only or b) buggy messes and even then they lack the scope of Paradox's games.

The only good grand strategy games I can think of that aren't Paradox's are the Age of Empires games, and those haven't really aged as well as I might like. (And they're arguably just RTSes with a historical theme to them, anyway, so they might not even count.)

Yeah, AoE is a rts franchise. A good one, mind you, but by no means are they grand strategy games.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I understand that it's difficult to make games, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize them for obvious flaws their system has.
I'm not saying that releasing missing content later was the wrong thing to do - I've defended that very decision earlier in this thread - but rather I'm saying that it shouldn't be a paid feature. Feel free to tell me how I don't know how game design works or whatever it is you're going to do, but it's my opinion, and I'll defend it if you want me to, but I'd rather not get into another pointless argument.

In what world has a patch ever been worth direct money?

I thought that there was a DLC out already and that's what people were complaining about (save for the Epirus Flavor Pack, which doesn't count no matter how funny it is).

And you know what? I'm going to use this post to express my deep-seated hatred towards myself, because I've already spent 20 minutes just trying to figure out where I would begin to start an argument. Because I am the WORST person at actually waging proper arguments. It's why I've never done a damn thing in NSG despite regularly lurking there. My brain has the organizational skills of a rampaging rhino in a Thai shop. Why do I start argumentative shit like this? It literally take me hours to write up a single page of anything. Constant rewrites, re-thoughts, re-wordings,-------GAAAAAAAH, my fucking brain! It stresses me out just trying to figure out my own damn thoughts and put it into a coherent sentence. Somebody put a bullet in me and shut me up. I'm clicking this submit button and going to sleep, my brain is a fucking mess even at the best of times.

Your argument wasn't badly constructed, I just disagree with it.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Mushroom Alexander the Great.

Naz, we have a new title!

Approved. Was going to change it to Alexander the Great Fungus but decided against it.

[The Imperial Reach]

Naz, we have a new title!

Approved. Was going to change it to Alexander the Great Fungus but decided against it.

Why would you decide against the far superior name? Honestly Naz, now you're giving me reasons to hate you. The world's gone topsy-turvy!

[Impaled Nazarene]

Approved. Was going to change it to Alexander the Great Fungus but decided against it.

Why would you decide against the far superior name? Honestly Naz, now you're giving me reasons to hate you. The world's gone topsy-turvy!

Because it'd be rude to say "You have a good idea but mine is better." The entire thread has a negative opinion of me already (huskar excluded).

[Hanafuridake]

Tbh I'm really just into Paradox games for the modding scenes at this point. There's a lot of really talented people who work on all these games and arguably make better ideas and mechanics than Pdox themselves.

This. I don't think I've ever played a historical dynasty in CK2 except as a one-time challenge, or a historical EU4 nation, because I don't find the appeal in reenacting long dead dynasties or countries instead of creating my own. Modding is really the only thing that makes these games remotely fun for me, because the Paradox vanilla is so overwhelmingly boring (even Monks & Mystics which has Satanic incestuous orgies).

[The Rich Port]

Tbh I'm really just into Paradox games for the modding scenes at this point. There's a lot of really talented people who work on all these games and arguably make better ideas and mechanics than Pdox themselves.

This. I don't think I've ever played a historical dynasty in CK2 except as a one-time challenge, or a historical EU4 nation, because I don't find the appeal in reenacting long dead dynasties or countries instead of creating my own. Modding is really the only thing that makes these games remotely fun for me, because the Paradox vanilla is so overwhelmingly boring (even Monks & Mystics which has Satanic incestuous orgies).

I'm personally sticking around for a Chinese/Asian game.

I assume they didn't include China fully into CK2 because it would chug the game harder than a pile of bricks, but still, I'd love to have China represented when it was obscenely powerful.

Plus, Korea and Japan. VIKINGS VS SAMURAI VS KOREANS WHEN.

EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTIIIIIIIING. THOSE BOATS WERE FAST AS ODIIIIIIN.

[Impaled Nazarene]

This. I don't think I've ever played a historical dynasty in CK2 except as a one-time challenge, or a historical EU4 nation, because I don't find the appeal in reenacting long dead dynasties or countries instead of creating my own. Modding is really the only thing that makes these games remotely fun for me, because the Paradox vanilla is so overwhelmingly boring (even Monks & Mystics which has Satanic incestuous orgies).

I'm personally sticking around for a Chinese/Asian game.

I assume they didn't include China fully into CK2 because it would chug the game harder than a pile of bricks, but still, I'd love to have China represented when it was obscenely powerful.

Plus, Korea and Japan. VIKINGS VS SAMURAI VS KOREANS WHEN.

EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTIIIIIIIING. THOSE BOATS WERE FAST AS ODIIIIIIN.

I would love a playable China in CK2, but in the one mod that i know that adds it makes the game lag super hard.

[Hanafuridake]

Why would you decide against the far superior name? Honestly Naz, now you're giving me reasons to hate you. The world's gone topsy-turvy!

Because it'd be rude to say "You have a good idea but mine is better." The entire thread has a negative opinion of me already (huskar excluded).

This is a bizarre claim to make considering I don't know you and have no opinion on you as a result.

This. I don't think I've ever played a historical dynasty in CK2 except as a one-time challenge, or a historical EU4 nation, because I don't find the appeal in reenacting long dead dynasties or countries instead of creating my own. Modding is really the only thing that makes these games remotely fun for me, because the Paradox vanilla is so overwhelmingly boring (even Monks & Mystics which has Satanic incestuous orgies).

I'm personally sticking around for a Chinese/Asian game.

I assume they didn't include China fully into CK2 because it would chug the game harder than a pile of bricks, but still, I'd love to have China represented when it was obscenely powerful.

Plus, Korea and Japan. VIKINGS VS SAMURAI VS KOREANS WHEN.

EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTIIIIIIIING. THOSE BOATS WERE FAST AS ODIIIIIIN.

An Asian centered Paradox game would be epic. I was disappointed in Imperator because it didn't have different Buddhist schools for me to utterly annihilate in the name of the Lokottaravada, but an Asian-centered game would probably have Buddhist religious violence as a central theme, meaning my war elephants will trample on the Pudgalavadin.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm personally sticking around for a Chinese/Asian game.

I assume they didn't include China fully into CK2 because it would chug the game harder than a pile of bricks, but still, I'd love to have China represented when it was obscenely powerful.

Plus, Korea and Japan. VIKINGS VS SAMURAI VS KOREANS WHEN.

EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTIIIIIIIING. THOSE BOATS WERE FAST AS ODIIIIIIN.

I would love a playable China in CK2, but in the one mod that i know that adds it makes the game lag super hard.

Umbra Spherae or however the fuck you spell it is has China and doesn't run much slower than vanilla, at least on my PC.

[The Rich Port]

I would love a playable China in CK2, but in the one mod that i know that adds it makes the game lag super hard.

Umbra Spherae or however the fuck you spell it is has China and doesn't run much slower than vanilla, at least on my PC.

Kung-fu school rivalries are the coolest thing in the world and the fact we don't have a strategy game about them is a crime against humanity.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Umbra Spherae or however the fuck you spell it is has China and doesn't run much slower than vanilla, at least on my PC.

Kung-fu school rivalries are the coolest thing in the world and the fact we don't have a strategy game about them is a crime against humanity.

#MantisBoxingGang

[The Rich Port]

Kung-fu school rivalries are the coolest thing in the world and the fact we don't have a strategy game about them is a crime against humanity.

#MantisBoxingGang

You can even license tech from other countries XDDDDDD

Bokator from Cambodia.

Opium Smoking from Britain.

Slap-Boxing from the Congo.

Professional wrestling from America.

[Impaled Nazarene]

I would love a playable China in CK2, but in the one mod that i know that adds it makes the game lag super hard.

Umbra Spherae or however the fuck you spell it is has China and doesn't run much slower than vanilla, at least on my PC.

That is said mod i am referring to. Screw you and your good pc
To be fair its updates since my last time playing might have made it run better idk.

[Wallenburg]

I've been impressed by stellaris AI in my new game. They actually declare war if you're at war with someone else and pull too many fleets away from the border. They suck at combining their fleets and using them, but they are at least attacking with everything they have

I think your game is broken, you might want to reinstall to fix those bugs. In my game, the members of my federation are behaving perfectly reasonably, sitting their fleets in other nations' territory as AI uprisings exterminate their people.

[The Rich Port]

Also, I figured, why the fuck not.

I'll try Ironman once, why not, I'll even pick a historical character so I don't have to feel guilty of cheesing my character to avoid getting victimized by AI rulers. I picked the Duke Nibelung (I think, I'm still rubbing my temples, might have been Nibelung or Burgundy. Pretty sure Burgundy already has heirs) in France under Charlemagne just to be safe, I made sure I got a very good physician, I settled my court, and I picked a lovely stewardess to help me with my titles and maybe sire some heirs around the kingdom.

Might even do a nice and quiet Content run to just to take in the sights.

Nibelung contracted the Flu, his 20 learning physician's treatment failed spectacularly, and he died without an heir, ending the game.

From the Flu.

... I think the game is trying to tell me something, I'm just not sure what.

[The Rich Port]

... Also also.

... What the FUCK is up with the Randomized World feature.

I thought it just switched places and maybe religions and cultures around.

Do... Do they randomize religions every time? How? What ARE these religions.

What are these cultures?!

WHAT IS THIS XD

[Lunas Legion]

... Also also.

... What the FUCK is up with the Randomized World feature.

I thought it just switched places and maybe religions and cultures around.

Do... Do they randomize religions every time? How? What ARE these religions.

What are these cultures?!

WHAT IS THIS XD

Everything is random. Duh.

[Dawetid]

... Also also.

... What the FUCK is up with the Randomized World feature.

I thought it just switched places and maybe religions and cultures around.

Do... Do they randomize religions every time? How? What ARE these religions.

What are these cultures?!

WHAT IS THIS XD

My first reaction too. XD

I wish you could just randomize the world without randomizing cultures and religions, just nations.

Assuming this is CK2, I thought you could already.