Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:41 pmTrying for Lessons of Hemmingstadt again, going well this time... again.
Might try and form Germany as a peasant republic if it goes really well for peak best alt-history
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:41 pmPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:02 pmPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:36 pmPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:08 pmOnce I get a new computer I'll probably buy Imperator, just so I can bring about Carthage's revenge. 
It starts immediately after Alexander's death right? When does it end?
Holy Tedalonia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im not that excited
And trust me, im not going to buy into hype for Imperator Rome of all things.
I'm disappointed how lackluster the amount of time in the game. I really wish it went all the way to the fall of Rome. As it is a perfect end point for the mega campaigns.
It starts immediately after Alexander's death right? When does it end?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:14 pmThe Imperial Reach wrote:Once I get a new computer I'll probably buy Imperator, just so I can bring about Carthage's revenge.Holy Tedalonia wrote:I'm disappointed how lackluster the amount of time in the game. I really wish it went all the way to the fall of Rome. As it is a perfect end point for the mega campaigns.
It starts immediately after Alexander's death right? When does it end?
Before the Crisis of the Third Century if not more than several hundred years before it. This timeline is almost as small as victoria 2 iirc.
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:23 pmImpaled Nazarene wrote:The Imperial Reach wrote:Once I get a new computer I'll probably buy Imperator, just so I can bring about Carthage's revenge.
It starts immediately after Alexander's death right? When does it end?
Before the Crisis of the Third Century if not more than several hundred years before it. This timeline is almost as small as victoria 2 iirc.
*squints suspiciously in DLC*
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:02 amGAAAH. Some of the people that I want to watch most are playing as Sparta. I hate it because I want my own first-time experience to be Sparta and I don't want to be "spoiled".
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:16 am
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:20 amIt's not impossible. Keanu Reeves is 54 and have you even seen John Wick
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:17 amBralia wrote:GAAAH. Some of the people that I want to watch most are playing as Sparta. I hate it because I want my own first-time experience to be Sparta and I don't want to be "spoiled".
The only people playing Carthage are just a random assortment of meatbags.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:25 amI'm hurt that nobody is playing Phrygia yet.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:36 amWashington Resistance Army wrote:I'm hurt that nobody is playing Phrygia yet.
Why do that when you can play as the SONS OF MAKEDONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:37 amPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:40 amThey can't go too far, though. Because as many pointed out modeling beloved religious figures like Jesus of Nazareth or Mohammed would be controversial.
It would be impossible to model those events in such a way to be extremely respectful, dynamic, and balanced.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:59 amValrifell wrote:
They can't go too far, though. Because as many pointed out modeling beloved religious figures like Jesus of Nazareth or Mohammed would be controversial.
It would be impossible to model those events in such a way to be extremely respectful, dynamic, and balanced.
Couldn't it be handled with a simple event which informs you that “a man named Jesus of Nazareth was crucified.” with Muhammad it would be impossible because he was a political figure and not just an ascetic one, but I can't see why it wouldn't be possible to reference Jesus in the game without showing him.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:01 amThey could do something like they did with Mohammad in ck2 and just have a thing of arabic writing
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:06 amHanafuridake wrote:Valrifell wrote:
They can't go too far, though. Because as many pointed out modeling beloved religious figures like Jesus of Nazareth or Mohammed would be controversial.
It would be impossible to model those events in such a way to be extremely respectful, dynamic, and balanced.
Couldn't it be handled with a simple event which informs you that “a man named Jesus of Nazareth was crucified.” with Muhammad it would be impossible because he was a political figure and not just an ascetic one, but I can't see why it wouldn't be possible to reference Jesus in the game without showing him.
I think you can get around Jesus by simply avoiding Christianity until it actually becomes a political force. Plus, well, you can lock it behind a bunch of things required to happen such as Rome controlling Judea in x year and a lot of other stuff.
Same for Islam.
Generally, a *lot* of stuff can happen that would mean those two figures never rise to prominence. It isn't like the Reformation in EUIV which was going to happen sooner or later. You can probably push the start dates up to the birth of Christ, but from then on have Old Gods/Charlemagne type set dates set for specific events.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:37 amThe Huskar Social Union wrote:They could do something like they did with Mohammad in ck2 and just have a thing of arabic writing
Why? Christianity doesn't forbade depictions of Jesus like Islam does to Muhammad.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:38 amPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:58 amAdrian's pretty good. He may not have the most exciting voice ever, but he generally plays Paradox games well. He's the person I actually settled on, I've been watching his Armenia game. I imagine his Carthaginian game is a good watch too.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:03 amMy bad, I assumed you were because Muhammad popping up in Imperator makes zero sense.
Pushing the game past the Fall of Rome really makes no sense at all as the Fall of Rome marks the beginning of the Middle Ages.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:10 amThe Imperial Reach wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:..... im not talking about jesus?
My bad, I assumed you were because Muhammad popping up in Imperator makes zero sense.
Pushing the game past the Fall of Rome really makes no sense at all as the Fall of Rome marks the beginning of the Middle Ages.
Yeah i agree.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:26 amThe Imperial Reach wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:..... im not talking about jesus?
My bad, I assumed you were because Muhammad popping up in Imperator makes zero sense.
Pushing the game past the Fall of Rome really makes no sense at all as the Fall of Rome marks the beginning of the Middle Ages.
I think the latest one might get it to is the end of Justinian's reconquests.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:52 amLunas Legion wrote:Hanafuridake wrote:
Couldn't it be handled with a simple event which informs you that “a man named Jesus of Nazareth was crucified.” with Muhammad it would be impossible because he was a political figure and not just an ascetic one, but I can't see why it wouldn't be possible to reference Jesus in the game without showing him.
I think you can get around Jesus by simply avoiding Christianity until it actually becomes a political force. Plus, well, you can lock it behind a bunch of things required to happen such as Rome controlling Judea in x year and a lot of other stuff.
To be fair, Jesus was a political figure (yes, even in spite of the "render unto Caesar" bit). His teachings went against the teachings of the Pharisees and Saducees, two of the prominent factions in Judaism at that time. The trial at the Sanhedrin was rigged (there were a lot of procedural violations), and Pilate allowed the crucifixion to appease the local leadership in Judea.
In short, an event regarding Jesus in Imperator should be more than the equivalent of "a comet was sighted". Its an opportunity for decisions with real effects to be made.
Say, you get an event briefly (and neutrally) outlining the situation, and the governor in Judea asks for advice on what to do. Telling him to allow the execution will have X,Y, and Z effects, and different effects for not allowing the execution. Hell, you could make an entire event chain based on it (potentially getting a Christianized Roman Empire centuries before RL, or outright rejecting (or even purging) Christianity altogether).
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:10 amMessiah Sighted! -1 Stability