PDOX Games VIII: Communism Will Win

[Genivaria]

paradox is the wrong developer for you then

Yeah, but at least in EU$ of HOI$ the DLCs ADD stuff to the game. DLCs in CK2 UNLOCK parts of the game *Cough* Swords of Islam

Oh I'm sorry do you think that should be part of the base game in a game tilted Crusader Kings?
Get over it.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Yeah, but at least in EU$ of HOI$ the DLCs ADD stuff to the game. DLCs in CK2 UNLOCK parts of the game *Cough* Swords of Islam

Oh I'm sorry do you think that should be part of the base game in a game tilted Crusader Kings?
Get over it.

Aye, good point

Still, even without the DLC, CK2 is a fun as hell game.

[Genivaria]

After noticing that Elder Kings is missing from the CK2 mod list in title I demand that it be added.
Elder Kings is a long running overhaul mod that is up to date.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1429073254

[Holy Tedalonia]

paradox is the wrong developer for you then

Yeah, but at least in EU$ of HOI$ the DLCs ADD stuff to the game. DLCs in CK2 UNLOCK parts of the game *Cough* Swords of Islam

Tbf, most Muslim content that comes from ck2, came with that dlc, pre-dlc ck2 didn’t have much to offer. Now granted, they probably should have developed good gameplay and content for playable Muslims, without dlc, but it does add stuff to the game.

You’ll notice older titles that keep getting dlcs tend to become less welcoming to new players. Which is why I’m happy and sad for Holy Fury being the last ck2 dlc. Sure CK3 may be great, but nothing ck2 related will happen anytime soon, save for patch notes.

Hot Take: HOI4 dlc, is by far imo the least bang for your buck, only offering for the most part, measly national focus trees, that anyone can make. That being said, I’m going to enjoy man the guns, since it will be the most important HOI4 dlc, that truly improves the game.

[The Transhuman Union]

I just realized that Roman Imperial Government can own cities.
I still hate it tho

[Abserdia]

I just realized that Roman Imperial Government can own cities.
I still hate it tho

Wait WHAT

[The Transhuman Union]

I just realized that Roman Imperial Government can own cities.
I still hate it tho

Wait WHAT

Yeah but according to the wiki, only in provinces with your culture

[Wallenburg]

Yeah, but at least in EU$ of HOI$ the DLCs ADD stuff to the game. DLCs in CK2 UNLOCK parts of the game *Cough* Swords of Islam

Oh I'm sorry do you think that should be part of the base game in a game tilted Crusader Kings?

Yes?

Get over it.

Since when was it unacceptable to criticize Paradox's ridiculous DLC policy?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Yeah, but at least in EU$ of HOI$ the DLCs ADD stuff to the game. DLCs in CK2 UNLOCK parts of the game *Cough* Swords of Islam

Oh I'm sorry do you think that should be part of the base game in a game tilted Crusader Kings?
Get over it.

Considering the muslims are a pretty huge part of the setting and have some major powers.. yeah? Why not?

Also why should he get over it? Paradox' dlc set up is a perfectly fine thing to criticise.

[Abserdia]

Oh I'm sorry do you think that should be part of the base game in a game tilted Crusader Kings?
Get over it.

Considering the muslims are a pretty huge part of the setting and have some major powers.. yeah? Why not?

Also why should he get over it? Paradox' dlc set up is a perfectly fine thing to criticise.

Agreed.
A game focusing solely on the Crusaders would be boring and Paradox should be criticized for not including Muslims in the base-game.
Just because the game is called "Crusader Kings" doesn't mean they should lock every non-Christian behind a paywall.

[Nea Videssos]

Considering the muslims are a pretty huge part of the setting and have some major powers.. yeah? Why not?

Also why should he get over it? Paradox' dlc set up is a perfectly fine thing to criticise.

Agreed.
A game focusing solely on the Crusaders would be boring and Paradox should be criticized for not including Muslims in the base-game.
Just because the game is called "Crusader Kings" doesn't mean they should lock every non-Christian behind a paywall.

Well, the Byzantines were always playable, and they are neither crusaders nor kings.
Of course, without them, the crusades (at least in the Middle East) never would have happened in the first place.

[The Imperial Reach]

After noticing that Elder Kings is missing from the CK2 mod list in title I demand that it be added.
Elder Kings is a long running overhaul mod that is up to date.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1429073254

Holy shit, I never even knew about this one.

Noice.

[The Imperial Reach]

Well, the Byzantines were always playable, and they are neither crusaders nor kings.

Nope; they're Romans and Emperors - which is far better.

[The Imperial Reach]

Hot take: Chinese Imperialism is the best government type in CK2

I don't have Jade Dragon, so please explain how.

I just realized that Roman Imperial Government can own cities.
I still hate it tho

Only thing I hate about it is the stupid enforced elective system.

Also, it's glitched in a weird way that classifies you as a 'Merchant Republic' in the logs which prevents you from usurping kingdom and empire-tier titles, which is just dumb. Wish they'd fix that shit and get rid of that awful elective succession.

Hot take: Chinese Imperialism is the best government type in CK2

Hotter take: there needs to be playable Theocracies in a future CK2 update.

There's really no historical way to implement such a feature, unfortunately. Plus, playing as the Pope would be far too easy.

[Serrus]

I know Ironclad isn't out yet, but I'm going to start practicing for the new 30 Minutes of Hel achievement.
I estimate the hatred of my life is gonna kick in around hour 3.

[Amuaplye]

There's really no historical way to implement such a feature, unfortunately. Plus, playing as the Pope would be far too easy.

You can't?

[The Imperial Reach]

There's really no historical way to implement such a feature, unfortunately. Plus, playing as the Pope would be far too easy.

You can't?

Can't what?

[Amuaplye]

You can't?

Can't what?

Play as the Pope.

[Impaled Nazarene]

After noticing that Elder Kings is missing from the CK2 mod list in title I demand that it be added.
Elder Kings is a long running overhaul mod that is up to date.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 1429073254

Denied

[Hanafuridake]

Hottest take: All governments need to be playable...

Also, I shouldn't need DLC to access like 90% of the game >_>

Or just to have your characters look ethnically accurate (I had to buy a Mongol graphics pack for that).

[Washington Resistance Army]

Hot take: Chinese Imperialism is the best government type in CK2

I don't have Jade Dragon, so please explain how.

It's like feudal but you can hold cities, you can have vassals of any religion with no downsides, you get a badass new Chinese style empire name and ruler naming system etc etc

[The Imperial Reach]

Can't what?

Play as the Pope.

Of course not. CKII is centered around dynasties; this makes theocracies in general unplayable as they were not dynastic.

you can have vassals of any religion with no downsides,

>actually entertaining heathen delusions

No, no, no, sir, you're playing the game wrong. You have to adopt a bigoted mindset when playing CKII and purge everyone from your realm who isn't of your culture or religion. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to brand you an apostate now. Enjoy the dungeons.

[The Imperial Reach]

Hottest take: All governments need to be playable...

Also, I shouldn't need DLC to access like 90% of the game >_>

Or just to have your characters look ethnically accurate (I had to buy a Mongol graphics pack for that).

Too bad all the portraits except the base ones suffer from Same Face Syndrome™

[Genivaria]

Play as the Pope.

Of course not. CKII is centered around dynasties; this makes theocracies in general unplayable as they were not dynastic.

you can have vassals of any religion with no downsides,

>actually entertaining heathen delusions

No, no, no, sir, you're playing the game wrong. You have to adopt a bigoted mindset when playing CKII and purge everyone from your realm who isn't of your culture or religion. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to brand you an apostate now. Enjoy the dungeons.

My current ambition is take the Norse and mix their raiding and adventuring with Bloodthirsty.
Gonna make a culture of raiders who sacrifice their victims to dark gods.

[The Imperial Reach]

Of course not. CKII is centered around dynasties; this makes theocracies in general unplayable as they were not dynastic.



>actually entertaining heathen delusions

No, no, no, sir, you're playing the game wrong. You have to adopt a bigoted mindset when playing CKII and purge everyone from your realm who isn't of your culture or religion. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to brand you an apostate now. Enjoy the dungeons.

My current ambition is take the Norse and mix their raiding and adventuring with Bloodthirsty.
Gonna make a culture of raiders who sacrifice their victims to dark gods.

So you won't really be changing anything at all?