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I actually really hate how Excommunication is worked in Holy Fury.

I just had my Emperor be excommunicated for whatever reason the Pope decided it'd be a cool idea to do, so I issue the letter of repentance. He wants me to send my second son to become a monk and he'll lift it which is perfect because gavelkind is lame and it gets rid of him. The minute my son arrives in Rome and is made a monk, I'm immediately excommunicated again. Making an anti-Pope is very tempting now.

Vlach wrote:I actually really hate how Excommunication is worked in Holy Fury.

I just had my Emperor be excommunicated for whatever reason the Pope decided it'd be a cool idea to do, so I issue the letter of repentance. He wants me to send my second son to become a monk and he'll lift it which is perfect because gavelkind is lame and it gets rid of him. The minute my son arrives in Rome and is made a monk, I'm immediately excommunicated again. Making an anti-Pope is very tempting now.

The Pope demanded I go from primo to gavelkind. I literally chuckled, mumbled "fuck no" and took the opinion modifier like a champ.

Vlach wrote:I actually really hate how Excommunication is worked in Holy Fury.

I just had my Emperor be excommunicated for whatever reason the Pope decided it'd be a cool idea to do, so I issue the letter of repentance. He wants me to send my second son to become a monk and he'll lift it which is perfect because gavelkind is lame and it gets rid of him. The minute my son arrives in Rome and is made a monk, I'm immediately excommunicated again. Making an anti-Pope is very tempting now.

Reminds me of one time I tried a Karling run with HIP, and formed the Saint-Empire Romain, only to get randomly excommunicated by the Pope within a year or two. At one point I bribed him for forgiveness, and he said okay, only to excommunicate one day later. Shortly after, I made an antipope, and began plotting the conquest of Rome.

Well, this is embarrassing, I completely forgot about the HoI4 Dev Diary this morning: DD #1 of 30 of the grand naval rework.

Bralia wrote:Well, this is embarrassing, I completely forgot about the HoI4 Dev Diary this morning: DD #1 of 30 of the grand naval rework.

one small step for overhaul, no movement for real balance

Ism wrote:

Ithalian Empire wrote:
I mean, they where bullshit in real life so yeah, I think. TBH I never really cared about troop composition in CK2, too focused on politicing and using my dynasties women as pawns in a 4D chess game to get what I want than to actually declare war on everyone who owns stuff I want.

Yeah, troop composition isn't the most important thing. During my Israel game, I won wars with just doomstacks of light infantry. I do prefer light cavalry masses though, ever since my Polish/Wendish game where I beat the Mongols with my hordes of hussars. There's nothing quite like beating the Mongols with cavalry.

Troop comps feels like everything when you want to win a war against a greater power. I had a 20 martial commander with a force of archers and defensive troops (a la pikemen) and invaded Northumbria (I was a merchant republic in the Isle of Man). They kept on attacking me and getting killed horribly.

Bralia wrote:Even with Exclave Independence on harsh, Europe is still turning into a bloody mess.

Iirc exclaves can only go independent during succession. Kill them for their crimes of bordergore.

CK2:
Using the High Chief of Carinthia in 769 (tributary of Bavaria), I did the usual stuff, took the War focus, fought a few defensive wars, raided some pagans, then swore fealty to the King of Bavaria. Later they had a new King (but they were in regency), then I decided to convert to their culture.
Later got the event that gave the Depressed trait, then committed suicide.

The succession screen reads:
Well-known to be prone to carnal sins, he was often unfaithful to his wife.

Excuse me?
(and no, I didn't have any lovers or something, and kept War focus throughout)

Dawetid wrote:Excuse me?
(and no, I didn't have any lovers or something, and kept War focus throughout)

Well why did you think your guy was depressed?

Purpelia wrote:

Dawetid wrote:Excuse me?
(and no, I didn't have any lovers or something, and kept War focus throughout)

Well why did you think your guy was depressed?

From reading a book...

Dawetid wrote:

Purpelia wrote:Well why did you think your guy was depressed?

From reading a book...

Which is the most fun you ever allowed him to have. And that's just sad.

Bralia wrote:Even with Exclave Independence on harsh, Europe is still turning into a bloody mess.

Hello everybody except the person that has exposed me to these crimes against logical borders. What a truely disgusting map.

So who's ready to make blue furballs that multiply and devour the galaxy?

Who's ready to use a RYNO to eradicate them?

Pretty fucking sure this just happened in my game;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma81lHmaQkM

Nominated a nephew for superior stats and strong trait and made the rookie mistake of having my son (Shit at martial) as spymaster. Before i've even realized what happened the Nephew is dead, and while waiting for another nephew to come of age to nominate them instead, I have a balcony incident.

Time for a reign of terror then, I suppose I could do with purging the wrong culture folk.

Purpelia wrote:

Dawetid wrote:From reading a book...

Which is the most fun you ever allowed him to have. And that's just sad.

Ok but that doesn't explain how I was "prone to carnal sins" and "often unfaithful" considering that I never had an affair.

Decided to jump on the CK2 hype train and started my own game. Started off with a fractured world to give myself a fighting chance, and in my home town of ManChester.
Doing quite well so far, especially Best Queen.
BQ was fierce right out the gate, grabbing a second Duchy, and eventually starting a new Kingdom (given how afraid I was for her life what with all the diseases and wounds she was racking up).

The world has turned out a little odd because of the Fractured World start. Be interesting to note how it eventually shakes out once all the counties get snapped up.
Of note, the Papacy got kicked out of Rome and ended up in a little church in Scotland, so all he needed to do was pop down the road to coronate BQ. Catholicism is pretty fucked at this point what with all the Heresies running rampant. It's particularly annoying in my own kingdom, but thankfully BQ saves the day again with a Learning of 8 so I can just talk-no-jutsu everyone back into Catholicism.

But alas, all good things must come to an end.
RIP Best Queen

Alvecia wrote:Decided to jump on the CK2 hype train and started my own game. Started off with a fractured world to give myself a fighting chance, and in my home town of ManChester.
Doing quite well so far, especially Best Queen.
BQ was fierce right out the gate, grabbing a second Duchy, and eventually starting a new Kingdom (given how afraid I was for her life what with all the diseases and wounds she was racking up).

The world has turned out a little odd because of the Fractured World start. Be interesting to note how it eventually shakes out once all the counties get snapped up.
Of note, the Papacy got kicked out of Rome and ended up in a little church in Scotland, so all he needed to do was pop down the road to coronate BQ. Catholicism is pretty fucked at this point what with all the Heresies running rampant. It's particularly annoying in my own kingdom, but thankfully BQ saves the day again with a Learning of 8 so I can just talk-no-jutsu everyone back into Catholicism.

But alas, all good things must come to an end.
RIP Best Queen

Can't you try a Papal Restoration?

Valrifell wrote:

Alvecia wrote:Decided to jump on the CK2 hype train and started my own game. Started off with a fractured world to give myself a fighting chance, and in my home town of ManChester.
Doing quite well so far, especially Best Queen.
BQ was fierce right out the gate, grabbing a second Duchy, and eventually starting a new Kingdom (given how afraid I was for her life what with all the diseases and wounds she was racking up).

The world has turned out a little odd because of the Fractured World start. Be interesting to note how it eventually shakes out once all the counties get snapped up.
Of note, the Papacy got kicked out of Rome and ended up in a little church in Scotland, so all he needed to do was pop down the road to coronate BQ. Catholicism is pretty fucked at this point what with all the Heresies running rampant. It's particularly annoying in my own kingdom, but thankfully BQ saves the day again with a Learning of 8 so I can just talk-no-jutsu everyone back into Catholicism.

But alas, all good things must come to an end.
RIP Best Queen

Can't you try a Papal Restoration?

Possibly. Something to think about further down the line. At the moment it's nice having the Pope next door.
I was planning on expanding south, but maybe I'll grab that province just to keep him secure.

Alvecia wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
Can't you try a Papal Restoration?

Possibly. Something to think about further down the line. At the moment it's nice having the Pope next door.
I was planning on expanding south, but maybe I'll grab that province just to keep him secure.

I'm just saying that restoring the Pope to Rome would increase the Catholic moral authority by 10% which would help with the heresies and associated revolts.

Valrifell wrote:

Alvecia wrote:Possibly. Something to think about further down the line. At the moment it's nice having the Pope next door.
I was planning on expanding south, but maybe I'll grab that province just to keep him secure.

I'm just saying that restoring the Pope to Rome would increase the Catholic moral authority by 10% which would help with the heresies and associated revolts.

Burn the last Church of the Papacy

Valrifell wrote:

Alvecia wrote:Possibly. Something to think about further down the line. At the moment it's nice having the Pope next door.
I was planning on expanding south, but maybe I'll grab that province just to keep him secure.

I'm just saying that restoring the Pope to Rome would increase the Catholic moral authority by 10% which would help with the heresies and associated revolts.

Oooh, is that a threshold? I’ll keep that in mind, cheers.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
I'm just saying that restoring the Pope to Rome would increase the Catholic moral authority by 10% which would help with the heresies and associated revolts.

Burn the last Church of the Papacy

Also a possibility. I’m not married to Catholicism, and there’s been enough encroachment of the Danes to consider aiming for Pagan if none of the heresies interest me.

Alvecia wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
I'm just saying that restoring the Pope to Rome would increase the Catholic moral authority by 10% which would help with the heresies and associated revolts.

Oooh, is that a threshold? I’ll keep that in mind, cheers.

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Burn the last Church of the Papacy

Also a possibility. I’m not married to Catholicism, and there’s been enough encroachment of the Danes to consider aiming for Pagan if none of the heresies interest me.

Do it.

Fulfil your destiny!

Alvecia wrote:

Valrifell wrote:
I'm just saying that restoring the Pope to Rome would increase the Catholic moral authority by 10% which would help with the heresies and associated revolts.

Oooh, is that a threshold? I’ll keep that in mind, cheers.

It's not a threshold but the higher the moral authority of catholicism, the less likely heresies would pop up. Controlling Holy Sites and deus vulting in Holy Wars and Crusades helps with that.