PDOX Games VIII: Communism Will Win

[Holy Tedalonia]

I refuse to accept that the game with the least amount of problems and developer horseshit will be abandoned. There is no need for CK3. Just release CK2 complete and make DLC for it giving us CK2.5

I don't think Crusader Kings 2 will be replaced by a sequel anytime soon, since it hasn't been too long since they released Iron Century (Although of course we still don't know when that could happen since the last sequel we got was Hearts of Iron 4, coming after a game made in 2009). However, I kind of agree that CK2 is already a pretty well fully fledged game by now. Most of what I think the game lacks would certainly be better implemented in a new game (Mostly the relationships between characters, which I think feel a bit too underdeveloped, and the lifestyles you can choose for your own characters, which for me they soon become too repetitive after a few games).

Despite that, I'm not sure if I actually want a new Crusader Kings, seeing how Paradox is starting to create empty and underdeveloped games on purpose to later fill them with DLCs even more blatantly than it did with CK2 and EU4.

I want a CK3 way later down the line when paradox cleans up its act by going to rehab. As it stands mods do fine in providing ck2 with content.

[The New California Republic]

More Stellaris teasing.

It looks like they are restructuring the socioeconomic categorization system. It could still be a screenshot from a new mobile version of the game though (the large size of the "close window" X at the top right makes it look like it is meant to be tapped rather than clicked).

[The Huskar Social Union]

I had a meteor storm coming down around my colony, and one was going to hit my metal extractor, so i had the worker inside abandon his shift and head back to the dome which is like 10 feet away, and the meteor hit him directly the second he stepped outside.

RIP Petar Kremenliev, wasnt my fault shut up.

No one is picking up his body... they are just leaving him there... right outside the door.

[Purpelia]

That's the reason why it needs to stop. In fact it's why it probably should have stopped a while ago. CK2 has a lot of good ideas and mechanics but it has become so bloated with them that its becoming impenetrable. Every time I start a new game I have to stop and pick the DLC I want to activate because having them all on at once just make things too much. And I was with the game since Rise of Islam. Now imagine if you were a new player just entering the game and you bought the 2.5 experience you suggest.

This said, I would love to see CK2 reworked just a bit before it dies in that I'd remove all the stupid mana mechanics. Secret societies in particular are just utterly pointless as they are just mana pools.

I dont think taking away features is a answer, but yes the mass amount of content is overwhelming. The rule settings already has the option to remove large swaths of content in the game or keep it, without deactivating dlcs or activating. I think the best thing for ck2 in dealing with its massive amount of content is to have developer made rulesets, so that a newcomer has a easier time being introduced to the game.

Thing is, the stupid mana pools are just not fun. Secret societies are a good idea and they have potential but they really need a massive overhaul and rework to not just be a mana pool that you build up (easily at that) and than discharge for effect.

Wat, that's your problem.
Most users don't know how to play Paradox games their first time playing especially because the tutorials are shit. It doesn't take long to find a short simple guide that teaches you how to play. You can't blame CK2 for your problems. Disabling dlc is just too weird of a solution to even acknowledge.

As said, I have been with the bloody game for quite a while. It's simply that there are too many features right now stepping on each others toes, doing the same thing in ten different ways and generally being too much for too little. HOI4 is heading in the same direction sadly. Paradox seems to be heading in the direction of do everything but make everything half baked as opposed to the superior approach of "do little but do it bloody well".

I genuinely found CK2 to be the most enjoyable back just before Conclave came out.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I dont think taking away features is a answer, but yes the mass amount of content is overwhelming. The rule settings already has the option to remove large swaths of content in the game or keep it, without deactivating dlcs or activating. I think the best thing for ck2 in dealing with its massive amount of content is to have developer made rulesets, so that a newcomer has a easier time being introduced to the game.

Thing is, the stupid mana pools are just not fun. Secret societies are a good idea and they have potential but they really need a massive overhaul and rework to not just be a mana pool that you build up (easily at that) and than discharge for effect.

I can't see why you give CK2 shit over mana pools, when every other paradox game has far worse mana pool systems on the board, save for the outliers.

Wat, that's your problem.
Most users don't know how to play Paradox games their first time playing especially because the tutorials are shit. It doesn't take long to find a short simple guide that teaches you how to play. You can't blame CK2 for your problems. Disabling dlc is just too weird of a solution to even acknowledge.

As said, I have been with the bloody game for quite a while. It's simply that there are too many features right now stepping on each others toes, doing the same thing in ten different ways and generally being too much for too little. HOI4 is heading in the same direction sadly. Paradox seems to be heading in the direction of do everything but make everything half baked as opposed to the superior approach of "do little but do it bloody well".

I genuinely found CK2 to be the most enjoyable back just before Conclave came out.

I enjoy the current CK2, and will happily play with all of the features. I in fact find CK2 having the most content compared to its brethren. What it sounds like to me rather then play with all the dlc, and deactivating the content through the rule setings. You are instead deactivating them at the launcher, cutting out the additional events and other crazy things they add in each respective dlc.

[Purpelia]

I can't see why you give CK2 shit over mana pools, when every other paradox game has far worse mana pool systems on the board, save for the outliers.

Because CK2 does just enough of those to be aggravating but not enough to be beyond saving. Unlike some other games that are frankly a lost cause.

I enjoy the current CK2, and will happily play with all of the features. I in fact find CK2 having the most content compared to its brethren. What it sounds like to me rather then play with all the dlc, and deactivating the content through the rule setings. You are instead deactivating them at the launcher, cutting out the additional events and other crazy things they add in each respective dlc.

I am using the in game settings, mostly. But some of the stuff can't be killed without killing the whole DLC. Like for example the plague. It would be really cool if I could play with the other stuff from that DLC but not have the black death. But that is not possible. Same for some of the conclave council mechanics. It's not that they ain't fun. But when you pile it all on top of one another you get a giant mountain of stuff that is too much.

Honestly CK2 went from being my favorite paradox game to being a distant second behind HOI4 in the last year or so because of this.

[Ifreann]

More Stellaris teasing.

It looks like they are restructuring the socioeconomic categorization system. It could still be a screenshot from a new mobile version of the game though (the large size of the "close window" X at the top right makes it look like it is meant to be tapped rather than clicked).

I opened some of those pictures on my phone and they did seem suitably scaled.

[Hanafuridake]

Would CK3 even look that different from CK2? I haven't seen Paradox's character portraits improve all that much.

[Bralia]

Would CK3 even look that different from CK2? I haven't seen Paradox's character portraits improve all that much.

Imperator's portraits are a rather major step up. They speed at which they change as they age is almost imperceptible. Certainly, it'll be the new standard for portraits and aging in any future games.

[Bralia]

Imperator: Rome seems to be interested in trying out a curious fusion of old-style EUIV missions with the new-style HoI4 inspired focus trees. The focus branches will by dynamically generated. Really need to see this in action, it's hard to grasp what it means with mere words.

[Abserdia]

Would CK3 even look that different from CK2? I haven't seen Paradox's character portraits improve all that much.

Even in CK2 you can see noticeably improved portraits. Compare the default vanilla faces with the recent portrait packs.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Man The Guns needs to go on sale. I'm tired of mods not working properly. Also a nice change of pace that a DLC brings would be nice.

[Bralia]

The Dutch revolt has been changed so it's not 100 years of pain and suffering and if/when it actually spawns, it will no longer get immediately yeeted out of existence.

[Ifreann]

Stellaris mobile game announced.
https://twitter.com/stellarismobile

Stellaris: Galaxy Command, an online grand strategy for mobile, is available now, for beta testing, in chosen regions!

Beta in Sweden, Canada, Australia & New Zealand:
Android: https://pdxint.at/SGC_GPlay
iOS: https://pdxint.at/SGC_IOS

Global pre-registration: http://galaxycommand.stellaris.com

[Bralia]

A whole lot more information about Galaxy Command in Dev Diary format.

[Alvecia]

Cool, I guess.

I play a few mobile games, but I'm not typically a fan of the multiplayer ones like this sounds it'll be.
They're typically dominated by whales or those with too much free time, meaning I can never meaningfully progress without being dogpiled by those far stronger than me.

I'll probably give it a go, provided I don't have to pay anything

[Ifreann]

A whole lot more information about Galaxy Command in Dev Diary format.

Pay energy credits to edit your flag.

Ahaha, fuck off.

[The New California Republic]

A whole lot more information about Galaxy Command in Dev Diary format.

Pay energy credits to edit your flag.

Ahaha, fuck off.

I mean we knew that this shit was going to be stuffed to the rafters with microtransactions, which is why I wouldn't even touch the mobile version with a bargepole.

[Abserdia]

A whole lot more information about Galaxy Command in Dev Diary format.

All these people getting absurdly angry over it being a multiplayer mobile game are confusing me. What were you expecting? A complete overhaul that looked absolutely nothing like the original game? A sequel? I mean, this was a pre-PDX Con announcement and they wouldn’t announce either of those just a few days before their big event.

[Lunas Legion]

A whole lot more information about Galaxy Command in Dev Diary format.

All these people getting absurdly angry over it being a multiplayer mobile game are confusing me. What were you expecting? A complete overhaul that looked absolutely nothing like the original game? A sequel? I mean, this was a pre-PDX Con announcement and they wouldn’t announce either of those just a few days before their big event.

More importantly, it seems Paradox are only publishing it, so it won't take development resources from anything else.

[Ifreann]

A whole lot more information about Galaxy Command in Dev Diary format.

All these people getting absurdly angry over it being a multiplayer mobile game are confusing me. What were you expecting? A complete overhaul that looked absolutely nothing like the original game? A sequel? I mean, this was a pre-PDX Con announcement and they wouldn’t announce either of those just a few days before their big event.

Being multiplayer will probably contribute to it being shit.

[Abserdia]

All these people getting absurdly angry over it being a multiplayer mobile game are confusing me. What were you expecting? A complete overhaul that looked absolutely nothing like the original game? A sequel? I mean, this was a pre-PDX Con announcement and they wouldn’t announce either of those just a few days before their big event.

Being multiplayer will probably contribute to it being shit.

Well, it’ll be a F2P (probably) always-online mobile game. With Paradox fans making up a big portion of the playerbase.
That’s a recipe for a truly terrible community.

[The New California Republic]

it’ll be a F2P P2W [...] always-online mobile game.

Fixed.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Called it, I am Nostradamus, bow before me!

Also the developer for it stole artwork from halo 4:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/diaoig/this_game_has_some_good_artwor_wait/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[Holy Tedalonia]

Called it, I am Nostradamus, bow before me!

Also the developer for it stole artwork from halo 4:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/diaoig/this_game_has_some_good_artwor_wait/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://twitter.com/TheWesterFront/stat ... 5190059008

The game got taken down. Looks like Paradox is bringing out the paddle.