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Which game (if applicable) just isn't for you, most of all?

EUIV
11
20%
CK2
6
11%
Stellaris
6
11%
HoI3
6
11%
HoI4
8
15%
Imperator: Rome
13
24%
Victoria 2
4
7%
 
Total votes : 54

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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 5:20 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Purpelia wrote:It's also the gateway to a host of negative traits that make it unfun to play with. Seriously, why did they have to make the path constantly make you insane, crippled or worse? Paradox is literally the only game that managed to make playing a demon worshiping human sacrificing torturing madman unfun.


“Balancing.”

The balancing act with the Satanists should be demands from Satan. For example, sacrificing a virtuous noble would be a good one, since it gives you the choice between angering both Satan and his cult or taking a severe tyranny penalty and angering your vassals.
IC name is "The United Socialist States of America".
This nation does not represent my actual political beliefs.
NS stats are mostly canon, but serve more as a guideline than anything else.
Collectivism, capitalism, authority, and individuality all do not function in a vacuum, or at least not on a large enough scale to be worth basing an ideology around, and they must all be tempered by the opposing force. (Not a centrist, by the way, but they do raise good points, and they're probably the most sane and level headed ideology - and yes, mine is no exception.)
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 09, 2019 5:22 am

Nea Videssos wrote:Been playing with AGOT again recently. Decided to have a go as Aerys. Seems like the war always drags out a few years. Aerys got assassinated and Rhaegar became king. Robert died in battle, and Stannis became the new leader. It seems it always takes a while to gradually get the score up to win, since I never seem to be able to capture anyone important and whenever I have a big advantage with my troops, the enemy leader almost always leaves their army just before a battle. When I won, it was 5 years into the war. Two years later, and it seems Lyanna's still missing. I could've sworn last time I won as Aerys/Rhaegar (which was a few years ago, but still) I managed to get Lyanna back somehow.

I was thinking of starting as House Frey and just playing every character as a seducer, really fuck things up by fucking lots of folks and watch the hilarity that will ensue
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Thu May 09, 2019 5:37 am

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Ifreann
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Thu May 09, 2019 5:37 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Nea Videssos wrote:Been playing with AGOT again recently. Decided to have a go as Aerys. Seems like the war always drags out a few years. Aerys got assassinated and Rhaegar became king. Robert died in battle, and Stannis became the new leader. It seems it always takes a while to gradually get the score up to win, since I never seem to be able to capture anyone important and whenever I have a big advantage with my troops, the enemy leader almost always leaves their army just before a battle. When I won, it was 5 years into the war. Two years later, and it seems Lyanna's still missing. I could've sworn last time I won as Aerys/Rhaegar (which was a few years ago, but still) I managed to get Lyanna back somehow.

I was thinking of starting as House Frey and just playing every character as a seducer, really fuck things up by fucking lots of folks and watch the hilarity that will ensue

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The Huskar Social Union
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Founded: Apr 04, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu May 09, 2019 5:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was thinking of starting as House Frey and just playing every character as a seducer, really fuck things up by fucking lots of folks and watch the hilarity that will ensue

Walder Frey, the oldest, horniest man in the Seven Kingdoms.

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Scary Spooky Leftist #19879417 An Atheist Irishman from Belfast Loyal to Dragonstone and the King in the Narrow Sea

WHY BOOB SMALL? WHY YOU HATE?
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Valrifell
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valrifell » Thu May 09, 2019 6:23 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
“Balancing.”

The balancing act with the Satanists should be demands from Satan. For example, sacrificing a virtuous noble would be a good one, since it gives you the choice between angering both Satan and his cult or taking a severe tyranny penalty and angering your vassals.


Except Satanists have the option to kidnap people in secret, so they'd just do that instead of incurring the tyrant opinion modifier and not imprison them at all.
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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 6:27 am

Valrifell wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:The balancing act with the Satanists should be demands from Satan. For example, sacrificing a virtuous noble would be a good one, since it gives you the choice between angering both Satan and his cult or taking a severe tyranny penalty and angering your vassals.


Except Satanists have the option to kidnap people in secret, so they'd just do that instead of incurring the tyrant opinion modifier and not imprison them at all.

I was unaware of that ability, and I hereby rescind my suggestion (or add "also make it so that your satanist powers can't be used to cheese the missions".)
IC name is "The United Socialist States of America".
This nation does not represent my actual political beliefs.
NS stats are mostly canon, but serve more as a guideline than anything else.
Collectivism, capitalism, authority, and individuality all do not function in a vacuum, or at least not on a large enough scale to be worth basing an ideology around, and they must all be tempered by the opposing force. (Not a centrist, by the way, but they do raise good points, and they're probably the most sane and level headed ideology - and yes, mine is no exception.)
Shrek dies in Endgame.
My factbooks are quite messy, I'll update them sometime in the distant future.
Political compass: -5.5 economic, -3.54 social (social democrat), will retake every few months.

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Evil Dictators Happyland
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Thu May 09, 2019 6:33 am


How did it take them this long to figure out that the ability to manually control what is and is not part of a sector would solve the vast majority of problems that people have with sectors?
IC name is "The United Socialist States of America".
This nation does not represent my actual political beliefs.
NS stats are mostly canon, but serve more as a guideline than anything else.
Collectivism, capitalism, authority, and individuality all do not function in a vacuum, or at least not on a large enough scale to be worth basing an ideology around, and they must all be tempered by the opposing force. (Not a centrist, by the way, but they do raise good points, and they're probably the most sane and level headed ideology - and yes, mine is no exception.)
Shrek dies in Endgame.
My factbooks are quite messy, I'll update them sometime in the distant future.
Political compass: -5.5 economic, -3.54 social (social democrat), will retake every few months.

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Impaled Nazarene
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Founded: Aug 09, 2015
Father Knows Best State

Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu May 09, 2019 11:51 pm

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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 10, 2019 1:52 am

Mad to believe that game is three years old now.
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WHY BOOB SMALL? WHY YOU HATE?
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Fri May 10, 2019 4:08 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:

How did it take them this long to figure out that the ability to manually control what is and is not part of a sector would solve the vast majority of problems that people have with sectors?


Well, to be honest, in the beginning, you did have the ability to manually control what was and was not part of a sector. The problem was, adding a planet to a sector put its management entirely under the control of a terrible AI system. It was only good for hindering your empire, and hence why I've never used sectors, because I know I could manage the planets better, even if I have 50 of them at once (I just downloaded a mod that eliminated the max core sector cap to get around the arbitrary penalties they put in place before they came up with the admin cap system).

I will say, the build order system does sound like its infinitely better than the previous sector AI system, so I might actually give sectors a try when this update drops.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Fri May 10, 2019 4:53 am

Romantic slut. Self-deprecating egotist. Benevolent communist.
Wife and queen to King Huskar the Mannis. May his reign be long and great.
Entranced and enchanted by an embrace. In love with locked lips. I cannot lie when I meet your eyes.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 10, 2019 5:05 am

All ive heard about these wonders you can build in ck2 is people building pyramids that proceed to murder like half their family.
Scary Spooky Leftist #19879417 An Atheist Irishman from Belfast Loyal to Dragonstone and the King in the Narrow Sea

WHY BOOB SMALL? WHY YOU HATE?
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Hanafuridake
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Fri May 10, 2019 5:24 am



I don't really see much need to be able to tell courtiers to leave. You can always just marry them off which gets them to leave your court.
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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Fri May 10, 2019 8:19 am

Romantic slut. Self-deprecating egotist. Benevolent communist.
Wife and queen to King Huskar the Mannis. May his reign be long and great.
Entranced and enchanted by an embrace. In love with locked lips. I cannot lie when I meet your eyes.

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Impaled Nazarene
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 pm


Just like I've been complaining about. The HRE as we know it formed in the 10th century so maybe an ACTUAL HRE rework is coming.
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Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Renoa
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Renoa » Fri May 10, 2019 2:16 pm


Finally. You have no idea how much I've wanted a startdate between ye olde vikings and the beginnings of the Christianization of Scandinavia.
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Valrifell » Fri May 10, 2019 4:54 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

Just like I've been complaining about. The HRE as we know it formed in the 10th century so maybe an ACTUAL HRE rework is coming.


Betting on an Otto I 936 start date (he ascended to the German throne at that time, iirc) and an HRE rework DLC.
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The Imperial Reach » Fri May 10, 2019 5:13 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri May 10, 2019 5:37 pm


They're never going to be that nice. We just have to hope WTWSMS is going to update at some point.
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Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
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Renoa
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Postby Renoa » Sat May 11, 2019 1:50 pm

I started playing Stellaris because of the free weekend on Steam and like two months into the game I got got attacked by the Grey Disciples and it looks like their second fleet is about to fuck me up. Is this normal or am I particularly unlucky to have encountered them this early?
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Sapin Military District wrote:If god doesn't exist, then why does a tissue pop up every time you take the old one out of the box?

Benomia 3 wrote: Well if we're sharing our feelings now, I feel that royal purple is a fine color, but sadly underused in modern fashion.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 11, 2019 2:21 pm

Renoa wrote:I started playing Stellaris because of the free weekend on Steam and like two months into the game I got got attacked by the Grey Disciples and it looks like their second fleet is about to fuck me up. Is this normal or am I particularly unlucky to have encountered them this early?

Its an eventline that can sometimes happen. If you rush their fleets early on it can be disastrous but they are not too difficult to take on if you prepare.
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WHY BOOB SMALL? WHY YOU HATE?
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Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Renoa
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Postby Renoa » Sat May 11, 2019 5:45 pm

So, I've been playing Stellaris pretty much all day and I'm really enjoying it, but I'm not sure I can sustain my interest in it enough to warrant buying it.
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Benomia 3 wrote: Well if we're sharing our feelings now, I feel that royal purple is a fine color, but sadly underused in modern fashion.
Pro: Emo revival, fighting climate change, the New Orleans Saints, thick thighs, Mean Girls
Anti: Egos larger than my own, Eurocentrism, most seafood, the designated hitter rule, the Atlanta Falcons

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Bralia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sat May 11, 2019 8:39 pm

Renoa wrote:So, I've been playing Stellaris pretty much all day and I'm really enjoying it, but I'm not sure I can sustain my interest in it enough to warrant buying it.

It gets more fun with the more stuff packed into it, in my experience. All of the expansions and mods on top of that. It just works better as a game with as much content in it as possible.
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Purpelia
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Founded: Oct 19, 2010
Libertarian Police State

Postby Purpelia » Sun May 12, 2019 1:01 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Purpelia wrote:It's also the gateway to a host of negative traits that make it unfun to play with. Seriously, why did they have to make the path constantly make you insane, crippled or worse? Paradox is literally the only game that managed to make playing a demon worshiping human sacrificing torturing madman unfun.


“Balancing.”

F*** that sort of balancing. Balance in a strategy game should come from having to solve intellectual problems, devise strategies and implement them. Not from having random numerical modifiers thrown at you as flat penalties.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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