PDOX Games VIII: Communism Will Win

[Bralia]

Now that I've finally finished reading that Sundiary, I'd just like to say that I do not understand how the human brain can look at the words written and spout factually wrong nonsense like this. You either didn't read the Sundiary AT ALL . . . or you're being willfully ignorant for the purposes of lying and slander.

Or you know, you're wrong and we strongly disagree with you.

You know, to be honest, for a moment, I was thinking of looping your post into my reaction to Renoa, too . . . but then I realized you weren't wrong. You just had a bad take that I disagreed with . . . but you didn't actually say anything that contradicts any facts. I know what the difference between what "wrong" and "strongly disagree" mean. And I admit that I was wrong to think that you said something wrong.

Now, back to the actual argument, if you'll re-read the final segment in the Sundiary, you'll see the objective reality that Renoa either failed to read or blatantly ignore.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Now that's 3 people who told me to go kill myself hmm

[The Rich Port]

The whole dev diary is basically: We see your complaints, we disagree or ignore them, what ones we recognize will feature small "fixes". EU4 is the best game ever you guys just need to buy more full-priced DLC.

Johan is part of the EA faction confirmed.

"Am I out of touch? No, it's the fans who are wrong."

Also, it's really bizarre seeing him compare Imperator to decade-old games as an excuse for why this one is currently in the state that it is. "It has more stuff in it than EU:Rome!" No fucking shit, EU:Rome came out when I was in elementary school, I hope to God that your newest smexiest game has more stuff in it than that.

Also, not only is fucking EU:Rome old as shit by now, it's also THE WORST of the Paradox games. Shit's so broken it barely plays and when it does it plays worse than the old EU games.

Even iSorrow doesn't like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIMOmGoAEE&t=393s

[Hanafuridake]

Bralia is actually a Paradox employee confirmed.

I knew i detected something swedish about her.

Did she raid your house and take your female relatives as concubines too?

[Impaled Nazarene]

"Am I out of touch? No, it's the fans who are wrong."

Also, it's really bizarre seeing him compare Imperator to decade-old games as an excuse for why this one is currently in the state that it is. "It has more stuff in it than EU:Rome!" No fucking shit, EU:Rome came out when I was in elementary school, I hope to God that your newest smexiest game has more stuff in it than that.

Also, not only is fucking EU:Rome old as shit by now, it's also THE WORST of the Paradox games. Shit's so broken it barely plays and when it does it plays worse than the old EU games.

Even iSorrow doesn't like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIMOmGoAEE&t=393s

The fact that Johan compares this to EU:Rome shows that its a fucking remake with just as much failure as the original. Remake Sengoku not that shit

[Hanafuridake]

Also, not only is fucking EU:Rome old as shit by now, it's also THE WORST of the Paradox games. Shit's so broken it barely plays and when it does it plays worse than the old EU games.

Even iSorrow doesn't like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIMOmGoAEE&t=393s

The fact that Johan compares this to EU:Rome shows that its a fucking remake with just as much failure as the original. Remake Sengoku not that shit

If they remade Sengoku, I would mod the hell out of that game. Philosophical schools, yokai events, court intrigue, etc.

[Grenartia]

What is this?

OwO

My Imperator game.

Actually, I was trying to set you up for a "THIS! IS! SPARTA!" line.

[Bralia]

There is some serious competition for angriest woman on the planet between Britain and Egypt right now.

[The Huskar Social Union]

There is some serious competition for angriest woman on the planet between Britain and Egypt right now.

The bakes on those two, jaysus

[Thuzbekistan]

I've been impressed by stellaris AI in my new game. They actually declare war if you're at war with someone else and pull too many fleets away from the border. They suck at combining their fleets and using them, but they are at least attacking with everything they have

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I've been impressed by stellaris AI in my new game. They actually declare war if you're at war with someone else and pull too many fleets away from the border. They suck at combining their fleets and using them, but they are at least attacking with everything they have

I was fighting the AI yesterday and it split its 1.5k fleet into three stacks of 500 power each (this was in 2240 or so - that's actually a pretty big fleet for that point in the game, but I had about 2k), hid in two upgraded starbases with defenses I couldn't easily crack, and used hit and run tactics to retake systems and harass my fleet. Their PD on their ships let them take over starbases no problem, I could only kill a couple of their ships with my fleet before they retreated, and they usually came back as soon as my fleet left, so the base couldn't repair.
Of course, my ships had regenerative hulls, better weapons, better armor, and superior numbers, so they eventually lost by attrition and I took most of their empire (I was running exterminators), but the fact that this even went to attrition at all is kind of impressive.
However, the AI has no idea how to manage its economy, so I'm currently Overwhelming relative to everybody else save for the fallen empires, and I'm gaining on them.

[Thuzbekistan]

I've been impressed by stellaris AI in my new game. They actually declare war if you're at war with someone else and pull too many fleets away from the border. They suck at combining their fleets and using them, but they are at least attacking with everything they have

I was fighting the AI yesterday and it split its 1.5k fleet into three stacks of 500 power each (this was in 2240 or so - that's actually a pretty big fleet for that point in the game, but I had about 2k), hid in two upgraded starbases with defenses I couldn't easily crack, and used hit and run tactics to retake systems and harass my fleet. Their PD on their ships let them take over starbases no problem, I could only kill a couple of their ships with my fleet before they retreated, and they usually came back as soon as my fleet left, so the base couldn't repair.
Of course, my ships had regenerative hulls, better weapons, better armor, and superior numbers, so they eventually lost by attrition and I took most of their empire (I was running exterminators), but the fact that this even went to attrition at all is kind of impressive.
However, the AI has no idea how to manage its economy, so I'm currently Overwhelming relative to everybody else save for the fallen empires, and I'm gaining on them.

I havent seen them act that smart yet. Their starbase management has improved, though. I had to be careful not to just throw fleets at stuff before 2400.

[Grenartia]

I was fighting the AI yesterday and it split its 1.5k fleet into three stacks of 500 power each (this was in 2240 or so - that's actually a pretty big fleet for that point in the game, but I had about 2k), hid in two upgraded starbases with defenses I couldn't easily crack, and used hit and run tactics to retake systems and harass my fleet. Their PD on their ships let them take over starbases no problem, I could only kill a couple of their ships with my fleet before they retreated, and they usually came back as soon as my fleet left, so the base couldn't repair.
Of course, my ships had regenerative hulls, better weapons, better armor, and superior numbers, so they eventually lost by attrition and I took most of their empire (I was running exterminators), but the fact that this even went to attrition at all is kind of impressive.
However, the AI has no idea how to manage its economy, so I'm currently Overwhelming relative to everybody else save for the fallen empires, and I'm gaining on them.

I havent seen them act that smart yet. Their starbase management has improved, though. I had to be careful not to just throw fleets at stuff before 2400.

Meanwhile, I've yet to see anyone build a fleet that breaks 500 in my 2.2.7 game, and I'm a century in.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I havent seen them act that smart yet. Their starbase management has improved, though. I had to be careful not to just throw fleets at stuff before 2400.

Meanwhile, I've yet to see anyone build a fleet that breaks 500 in my 2.2.7 game, and I'm a century in.

These guys were fanatic militarists bordering DEs and other fanatic militarists, so it makes sense that they'd pour a lot of cash into the military, but the more I think about this the more I realize that this wasn't typical of the Stellaris AI at all and it was less an AI improvement and more like I was up against Mushroom Alexander the Great.

[Grenartia]

Mushroom Alexander the Great.

Naz, we have a new title!

[Bralia]

It's everything that anybody could have ever wanted for a naval system. Littorally. Literally.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I wish ships in ck2 did things.

[Hammer Britannia]

I wish ships in ck2 did things.

Historically Speaking, ships were pretty useless for anything but transportation in the Medieval Age

Unless you're Greek, then you have Fire.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

I wish ships in ck2 did things.

Historically Speaking, ships were pretty useless for anything but transportation in the Medieval Age

Unless you're Greek, then you have Fire.

Gotta love it how there's an event chain about Greek fire being essential to the Navy even though you never get to actually use it.
Maybe there could be a separate class of ships specifically dedicated to combat that builds off the Shipbuilding tech, and that only Byzantium has access to at the start? I think that could be a much-needed power injection, but I also don't think that would be too OP, since there are few circumstances where you can't just walk to Constantinople instead of sailing there.

[United Muscovite Nations]

It's everything that anybody could have ever wanted for a naval system. Littorally. Literally.

Honestly, that they're making such big changes so quickly after release really reinforces the idea that they deliberately released the game in an unfinished state. Why else do they have all this content ready two or three weeks after release? And that's even worse given they took out a shitload of content for the Diadochi from the release build to make day 1 DLC with it. Greedy bastards. Johan a shit.

[Hanafuridake]

It's everything that anybody could have ever wanted for a naval system. Littorally. Literally.

Honestly, that they're making such big changes so quickly after release really reinforces the idea that they deliberately released the game in an unfinished state. Why else do they have all this content ready two or three weeks after release? And that's even worse given they took out a shitload of content for the Diadochi from the release build to make day 1 DLC with it. Greedy bastards. Johan a shit.

As unjustifiably greedy, it is sadly common in the video game industry to tear out content and release it as a DLC post-release.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Honestly, that they're making such big changes so quickly after release really reinforces the idea that they deliberately released the game in an unfinished state. Why else do they have all this content ready two or three weeks after release? And that's even worse given they took out a shitload of content for the Diadochi from the release build to make day 1 DLC with it. Greedy bastards. Johan a shit.

As unjustifiably greedy, it is sadly common in the video game industry to tear out content and release it as a DLC post-release.

This is one of the big reasons I will never buy games on release. It's going to be incomplete and I'm going to have to pay more for it later, might as well get it once the bugs have been squashed and people have figured out which DLC is good and which isn't.

[Bralia]

You people have NO fucking clue how game design works. Do ANY of you EVER pay attention? I'm am so fucking done with the sheer level of ignorance being spouted from so-called Paradox fans these days.

You just can't delay games when they are a few months from release just because you get a few better ideas for a feature.

When 1.1/Pompey is ready to release, I'll have dozens of new ideas of how to tweak and improve the game..

If you people hate the business model so much . . . why the fuck are you still here? This is actually a serious question. WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE? If you people are so up and done with this style of constant development, why are you continuing to buy these games and their DLCs? What are you doing in this community? I really want an explanation from the people who think they know better at how to make games than the professionals.

[Washington Resistance Army]

WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE?

Because grand strategy games are an extreme niche and Paradox has the market cornered and can thus do whatever shitty things they want because we have nowhere else to go.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

You people have NO fucking clue how game design works. Do ANY of you EVER pay attention? I'm am so fucking done with the sheer level of ignorance being spouted from so-called Paradox fans these days.

You just can't delay games when they are a few months from release just because you get a few better ideas for a feature.

When 1.1/Pompey is ready to release, I'll have dozens of new ideas of how to tweak and improve the game..

If you people hate the business model so much . . . why the fuck are you still here? This is actually a serious question. WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE? If you people are so up and done with this style of constant development, why are you continuing to buy these games and their DLCs? What are you doing in this community? I really want an explanation from the people who think they know better at how to make games than the professionals.

I understand that it's difficult to make games, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize them for obvious flaws their system has.
I'm not saying that releasing missing content later was the wrong thing to do - I've defended that very decision earlier in this thread - but rather I'm saying that it shouldn't be a paid feature. Feel free to tell me how I don't know how game design works or whatever it is you're going to do, but it's my opinion, and I'll defend it if you want me to, but I'd rather not get into another pointless argument.

WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE?

Because grand strategy games are an extreme niche and Paradox has the market cornered and can thus do whatever shitty things they want because we have nowhere else to go.

Yeah, this too. Paradox is basically the only name in the grand strategy genre, and they have no reason to fear competition that doesn't exist.