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Best HOI political party

HOI3 Stalinist
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6%
HOI3 Leninist
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KR Syndicalist
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33%
KR Radical Socialism
2
11%
HOI4 Anarchism
3
17%
HOI4 Communism
1
6%
Stupid Sexy Naz with your unbiased polls and quality posts.
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Total votes : 18

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how could you forsake the great Caddo strategy
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 3:00 pm

Jesus Chocolatey Tengri, the Mongolians are OP as shit. I destroyed a doomstack of 12,000 Tibetans, Arabs and Hindus in a defense pact against me with 7,000 horse archers and light cavalry. XDDDD

Then again if I ever want to take over China I guess I'd fucking need it, considering you need to deal with their 19,000+ doomstack with only 20% of your current troop numbers.

I get the feeling I'm going to have to take over Tibet first if I want to stand a chance against China.

Oh, and I'm geting 34 gold every month, way more than I ever did even as a Muslim Iqta.

Not to mention all the benefits I get from the Warrior Lodge, my favorite thing ever.
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Postby Serrus » Sat May 04, 2019 3:00 pm

Rannoria wrote:

how could you forsake the great Caddo strategy

Because that's a different challenge.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 3:14 pm

NOPE THAT'S 100,000 ANGRY CHINESE PEOPLE.

GOMENASAI PLZ. PLZZZZZZ
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat May 04, 2019 3:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Oh, and I'm geting 34 gold every month,


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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 3:57 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Oh, and I'm geting 34 gold every month,


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I have 4 wives and 15,000 in the bank, I'm good XD

Then again I keep having to send spies after them to make sure the kids are actually mine.

Last thing I want is some ahol going "PSYCH. THAT'S THE WRONG PENIS" and getting claims on my Mongol Empire.

It's my Mongol Empire. MINE.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 4:20 pm

... For the love of Tengri.

Stop poking your appendages near my fucking pet bear.

This is the THIRD courtier, one of whom is a KING, to get a body part ripped off by my pet bear.

Do I seriously need to put a fucking sign up.

Also, second holy war with Syria as the aggressor. First time I stomped them and they went bankrupt paying me reparations.

Guess they're feeling lucky since my pet bear is crippling all of my generals.

Also also,

This tome describes the famed rivalry between Tengrikut Khubilai and Chieftess Oghul, and there are several lessons on personal combat to be gleamed from its pages. The surprising thing is how many of their duels seem to have taken place in various bedchambers...

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Just like my Japanese Mongol animes.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat May 04, 2019 6:25 pm

As far as the poll question, I like Imperator Rome, I bought the Deluxe edition, and I think the game actually has good mechanics besides the absolutely broken barbarian mechanic that can be easily modded out. My main complaint is that you have to have the deluxe edition for the Hellenistic flavor pack. The Diadochi cover like 1/4 of the map if not more, them having content should have been a must on vanilla.
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Postby Serrus » Sat May 04, 2019 7:11 pm

OK. Word to the wise if you wanna play as a revolter tag in EU4:
DO NOT PLAY ON AN EASY DIFFICULTY. It will not work due to the unrest reduction.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 7:51 pm

>Subjugate Tibet?

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It'd be nice if I could convert my government to Monastic Feudal but I dunno if I wanna go Buddhist, they don't get Holy War casus belli, nor are they gender-equal like Reformed Tengrism.

Then again, I guess I might not want to if I completely control Tibet and Mongolia, AKA 25% of the map.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat May 04, 2019 9:11 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:My experience with Imperator so far has been rather meh. I'm sure they'll expand it over time, but it would've been nice to have gotten a full game at release. I have a feeling that Paradox has become complacent like Bethesda in regard to its bugs and lack of content because of the modding community which sustains their games. The biggest disappointment to me is that map editor always seems to freeze my computer, since that was one of the main reasons I bought the game.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 9:13 pm

... Wait... CAN you go Monastic Feudal?

I moved my capital to Tibet, the province has a Tibetan culture and Buddhism as a religion, and yet I can't change either my culture or my religion.

Not zealous, I'm cynical, so that can't be why.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 9:59 pm

YOUR RESISTANCE ONLY MAKES ME HARDER, TIBET. STOP FIGHTING IT.

No wonder China likes it so much, dang horse perverts.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 10:07 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:YOUR RESISTANCE ONLY MAKES ME HARDER, TIBET. STOP FIGHTING IT.

No wonder China likes it so much, dang horse perverts.

Context!


Tibet is fighting my submission of it and it's only enticing me more. I wouldn't be attacking them if they weren't so THICC.

:D

Ah but seriously, I hate it when you lose so much warscore despite the enemy in the rear capturing some minor provinces. I have the capital, a bunch of terrain, and I've killed most of the enemy's force, how have I not won yet. Oh well, anyway, it's done.

Tibet now has to answer to Daddy Mongolia.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 11:38 pm

... 5th Arabian Holy War against me.

... What is the AI thinking. Makes me wonder.

"Myeh myeh myeh... We shall declare war on the INFIDELS!"
"But sir, they have more soldiers than us"
"Allah is with us."
"... But sir... They have beaten us 4 times in a row. Was Allah with us then."
"No. This time he is tho."
"... Are you sure?"
"I'm... Pretty sure. You know what they say. 5th time's the charm."
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat May 04, 2019 11:43 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:... 5th Arabian Holy War against me.

... What is the AI thinking. Makes me wonder.

"Myeh myeh myeh... We shall declare war on the INFIDELS!"
"But sir, they have more soldiers than us"
"Allah is with us."
"... But sir... They have beaten us 4 times in a row. Was Allah with us then."
"No. This time he is tho."
"... Are you sure?"
"I'm... Pretty sure. You know what they say. 5th time's the charm."

"...But Charms are for a Infidel sir."


>5,000 vs 30,000

>5,000 lose.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Sun May 05, 2019 12:09 am

The Rich Port wrote:>Subjugate Tibet?

(Image)

It'd be nice if I could convert my government to Monastic Feudal but I dunno if I wanna go Buddhist, they don't get Holy War casus belli, nor are they gender-equal like Reformed Tengrism.


Huh, I always had minor holy war as a casus belli. It didn't allow me to annex much, but did fortunately prevent everyone else in the region of the same religion from offering to join the defender.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun May 05, 2019 12:18 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:>Subjugate Tibet?

(Image)

It'd be nice if I could convert my government to Monastic Feudal but I dunno if I wanna go Buddhist, they don't get Holy War casus belli, nor are they gender-equal like Reformed Tengrism.


Huh, I always had minor holy war as a casus belli. It didn't allow me to annex much, but did fortunately prevent everyone else in the region of the same religion from offering to join the defender.


If we're talking about Unreformed Pagans here, you have to Reform your pagan religion first, then pick a... The first one, that lets you declare Great Holy Wars. There's several types. Mine is Unyielding, which is a balanced trait that gives me conversion resistance, conversion bonuses, but still allows me to declare Great Holy Wars, which is what you're looking for. Warmongering is similar except it gives you the same debuff several unreformed Pagan religions do, which is losing prestige or piety for not being at war. A more different one is Cosmpolitan, which gives you diplomatic debuffs and conversion bonuses, but is less aggressive and therefore doesn't include Great Holy Wars.

You also have to wait for around 900, for the Age of Pagan Holy Wars event to kick in.

Also, yeah, big wars like this aren't something you wanna try if you're not Nomadic XD Literally everyone in Asia who isn't a Tengrist finds me threatening. I have 97% defensive threat now that I have Tibet.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun May 05, 2019 1:10 am

There's four slots: Nature, two Doctrines, and Leadership.

Another recommendation is to make your religion Temporal, which is basically what Islam has, where a secular ruler can hold the religious office.

Not only does that mean that you start out as the Pope and your children inherit the title, you can also declare Great Holy Wars yourself so long as you hold the title, instead of having to ask for it. Oh, and you get a piety and prestige bonus. Oh, and a powerful artifact. Now that I think about it, I don't see why you'd pick anything else.

I like Equality because it means women don't sit around uselessly simply making more children that'll whine about not having titles. My dynastic females earn their keep and can takes title off my hands that I don't have to give to some dirty title-grabbing chode outside of my house. It also means there's more candidates available to take important jobs; a bigger pool means a higher likelihood of better candidates. However, I'm sure there's other Doctrines that allow you to control inheritance more directly. Agnatic IMO is kinda useless because you start out with either Agnatic or Agnatic-Cognatic, which means your males are going to inherit totally or above females, if you hate women, I guess.

And I took the unique Tengri doctrine cuz why not, might as well.
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Postby Bralia » Sun May 05, 2019 4:07 am

You know, when it comes down to it, I think it really is extremely simple: Seeing the name Sparta grow is ALL I need to be satisfied with this game.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun May 05, 2019 4:12 am

Bralia wrote:You know, when it comes down to it, I think it really is extremely simple: Seeing the name Sparta grow is ALL I need to be satisfied with this game.


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Postby Bralia » Sun May 05, 2019 4:16 am

Grenartia wrote:
Bralia wrote:You know, when it comes down to it, I think it really is extremely simple: Seeing the name Sparta grow is ALL I need to be satisfied with this game.


What is this?

OwO

My Imperator game.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun May 05, 2019 4:20 am

Bralia wrote:You know, when it comes down to it, I think it really is extremely simple: Seeing the name Sparta grow is ALL I need to be satisfied with this game.


Meh.

I'm more of a Japanese Africa kinda guy.

The less likely it would ever, ever happen in anybody's sickest imperialist or anti-imperialist dreams, the more I love to see it.

It's funny, with such old societies I feel kinda disconnected, especially considering we don't really know much about those societies and Imperator: Rome completely divorces us from relatable identities beyond maybe the big ones like Rome, Greece, and Carthage.

Crusader Kings 2 at least lets you invent connections wholesale from out of nowhere and EU4 forces you to identify with your chosen culture since you're going to be with them for a very long time, and at the very least, they come from SOMEWHERE, same as CK2.

I:R gives you Rome, Carthage, Greece, and... A billion tiny tribes nobody has ever heard of, and, knowing Paradox, they made up quite a few of them because nobody has records THAT meticulous of ancient Europe.

Gee, you know who I always wanted to play as. The Picts? Fuckin' whatever. The Iceni? That's some women shit.

I want to fucking play Coporia.

Who? Exactly.

Say what you will about, for example, Rome: Total War, which squished lots of things together and invented some crazy shit, they at least did it in the name of making the game a little more fun and making the factions recognizable.

As I say that, I very much enjoyed the more realistic approach they took with Rome: Total Realism and I love playing smaller obscure nations but R:TRealism at least justified it by giving you some info and admitting their limits.

Edit: and the less I say about Victoria 2 turning me into an imperialist, the better. :lol:

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Postby Bralia » Sun May 05, 2019 5:16 am

Johan stands by his game, saying it's the best 1.0 release that Paradox has ever done in this Sundiary. And I'm inclined to agree, in spite of the fact that I've dealt with some of the worst of the technical issues.
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Postby Rannoria » Sun May 05, 2019 5:37 am

Bralia wrote:Johan stands by his game, saying it's the best 1.0 release that Paradox has ever done in this Sundiary. And I'm inclined to agree, in spite of the fact that I've dealt with some of the worst of the technical issues.

But is it the best game ever made?

I don't have the funds to drop 40 euro on Imperator, but just from everything I've gathered, it is certainly not the best. It's true that it's only 1.0, and I don't have any other Paradox games that I've played since launch (so yeah it's pretty good in that regard), but will it be one of the best in the future or nah?
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