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Which faction deserved to win the Spanish Civil War?

The Anarchists
5
18%
The Communists
2
7%
An Alliance Between The Anarchists And The Communists
4
14%
The Internationale Brigades who would have established a Communist Spain
0
No votes
Literally any faction that was not Fascist nor Franco
17
61%
 
Total votes : 28

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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:26 pm

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The Imperial Reach wrote:Okay, I've decided to buy Victoria II and all it's DLC.

But first I need to know: which country is the easiest to play for a noob? I want to get used to the feel of the game before I try a serious run with it. I made the mistake of not doing this with CKII so I don't want to make the same mistake again.

If you're playing vanilla (non-modded), Prussia if you wanna learn how to work a Sphere of Influence+Aggressive war, US if you want a snadbox to do whatever you want in, one continent away from everyone important, and the UK if you wanna learn how puppeting works. If you're playing modded (and have HFM), Japan is also interesting, because of how it steamrolls you from an uncivilized nation to one of the most powerful Empires in the game.


Sandbox sounds like the ideal.

Guess I'm playing patriotically tonight. :p
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:31 pm

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I thought Genghis Khan was better translated as something like "Universal Khan"

The title has only increased in prestige over the centuries and that makes it harder to appropriately translate.

Great Khan is more typically applicable to Khagans or Khan-of-Khans much like Shahanshah (King of Kings). Genghis Khan is way above any other title in history in importance.
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Postby Abserdia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:40 pm

Judging from my 5 or so hours with Darkest Hour so far, I think it's just a less mindflooding version of HOI3 but with even more sliders.
So if you like not being mindflooded, games set in World War 1 or 2, and sliders, this is the game for you!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:33 pm

Saxonia game in Imperator going well, i'm the undisputed largest Germanic power at 55 cities, with all others being below 20. Can't expand much more because i've hit overextension problems from trying to assimilate the Suebians, who outnumber the Saxons slightly. Just had a civil war with them, but once they are assimilated, i'll be able to roll up the rest of the germanics. My centralization is going fast enough that the clan chiefs pose no threat.

I'll start fabricating on the British isles after that while pushing for colonization in the home frontier, but largely it'll mean a period of peace. (I don't think the British will be able to mount a significant defense.).

I'm hoping to get the frontier to hit Gaul around the same time Britannia is subjugated, so then it's pushing into Gaul militarily while colonizing eastward.

Why Germanic Migration when you can Germanic civilization+colonization a few hundred years early :p

Definitely think it's good that cash can be converted to power. Was initially skeptical, but since they've decoupled tech from power, it makes it much more viable. Large empires need more power to move pops around and so on.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:00 pm

North German Realm wrote:Working on Restoring France to its """""natural""""" borders on a new Vic2 run (also, my first ever France run on any Paradox game)

I've reclaimed Catalonia, Haiti, Wallonia, and took Quebec via treaty with Britain (since I had a 200 relations with them). It is 1853, and I await Prussia forming the North German Federation and declaring war on me so I can reclaim the Rhineland. Once that's over, I will concentrate on taking back Savoy, participating in the Scramble and reclaiming Louisiana. Vive l'Empire Français

(Here's hoping I don't get pwned in the inevitable Franco-Prussian war tbh)

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Postby The Grene Knyght » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:10 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:Playing CK2 as a relatively peaceful muslim ruler of Sicily, focusing on building universities and writing scientific papers. Pope calls a crusade against me and demolishes me, I'm only left with some holdings I inherited in Spain. Now I'm turning my formidable learning skill of 42 towards taking my revenge, and I've just constructed an actual handgun.

Generations later, my great-grandchild retook Sicily and sacked Rome, stealing Christ's foreskin in the process.
     
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Postby Eternal Lotharia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:11 pm

The Grene Knyght wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Playing CK2 as a relatively peaceful muslim ruler of Sicily, focusing on building universities and writing scientific papers. Pope calls a crusade against me and demolishes me, I'm only left with some holdings I inherited in Spain. Now I'm turning my formidable learning skill of 42 towards taking my revenge, and I've just constructed an actual handgun.

Generations later, my great-grandchild retook Sicily and sacked Rome, stealing Christ's foreskin in the process.

That turned out well didn't it? :p
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:21 pm

Having a ruler reign in peace for a while in Imperator is... pretty boring. Necessary though. I think they need more events or at least ways to do stuff.

The cultural assimilation mechanic is a little slow tbh. They're not growing, and it's making my majority culture have a population boom, but they're not exactly being purged.

They're sticking at around 140 pops. Their pop growth is transfered over to my major, essentially, unless I actively spend power on purging them.

It's meaning they slowly shift into a minority culture and thus cause less province unloyalty issues, but they're not going away unless I actively make an effort to.

I have strong suspicions that this means a religious/cultural assimilation is basically impossible, unless the mechanics get buffed by technology or something, since you can only have one governing policy per province. Maybe if you actively purge the religion, then switch over, but that's a lot of hassle and it's only going to get worse as the global population grows.

It'd be nicer if with Migratory civs like the ones i'm conquering, they just up and fucked off when you conquered them. Then my conquest of Germania would be forcing the German tribes to spread out into Gaul and so on.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:47 pm

So now that I have a mod that got rid of the stupid barbarians, I am doing well as Egypt, except for one thing that was both and accident, and completely in-character for Ptolemy.

I accidentally married my son (who is my heir) to my daughter.

I didn't know, it doesn't tell you that they're related, all I knew was that they both had insanely high stats!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:48 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:So now that I have a mod that got rid of the stupid barbarians, I am doing well as Egypt, except for one thing that was both and accident, and completely in-character for Ptolemy.

I accidentally married my son (who is my heir) to my daughter.

I didn't know, it doesn't tell you that they're related, all I knew was that they both had insanely high stats!

ACCIDENTALLY
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:50 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:So now that I have a mod that got rid of the stupid barbarians, I am doing well as Egypt, except for one thing that was both and accident, and completely in-character for Ptolemy.

I accidentally married my son (who is my heir) to my daughter.

I didn't know, it doesn't tell you that they're related, all I knew was that they both had insanely high stats!

ACCIDENTALLY

I'm also now pretty sure that after they got married, they plotted to kill the original heir to the throne. But now it's too late to stop them because the husband inherited the throne and is now Basileus. Interestingly, the wife is still a pretender.
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:54 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:So now that I have a mod that got rid of the stupid barbarians, I am doing well as Egypt, except for one thing that was both and accident, and completely in-character for Ptolemy.

I accidentally married my son (who is my heir) to my daughter.

I didn't know, it doesn't tell you that they're related, all I knew was that they both had insanely high stats!

Well, that's just good roleplaying.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:26 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:So now that I have a mod that got rid of the stupid barbarians, I am doing well as Egypt, except for one thing that was both and accident, and completely in-character for Ptolemy.

I accidentally married my son (who is my heir) to my daughter.

I didn't know, it doesn't tell you that they're related, all I knew was that they both had insanely high stats!


“Accidentally.” ;)
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Postby Alvecia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:03 pm

Rule Pritannia!

Well, for a little while at least. Hail Albion, the new republic.

That was a good session. After I'd taken most of the south, I was able to steamroll the remaining tribes.
The barbarians weren't quite an issue, as once I'd taken the Scottish cost I was able to spam Civilisation and neutralise them.
Took a little while to colonise the Emerald Isle. It takes some crazy stupid amounts of Civil and Oratory power, and a fair bit of micro moving pops around. No achievement for this as you need to do it in 50 years (God knows how you;d manage that) but I picked up a couple of basic ones related to tribes and civilisation, so that's something.

My goal for this run is basically done now, but I might stick around for a while, either consolidate, converting all the tribesmen, or maybe look to take land in the mainland.

The tribal chief's armies get crazy stupid big later on. It's a damn good job I don't have to pay for them (either in gold or manpower) cause those things would bankrupt me sharpish.
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:43 pm

Okay so a recap of my first VicII game:

First of all I want to say that I like it. Very cool game, very interesting, very fun. I started off as the USA by recommendation and I have to say it's an excellent starting point because the sheer potential you have is totally insane. I don't know how, but I completely avoided the Civil War despite hammering down hard against the Pro-Slavery crowd and even outright outlawing slavery. Maybe I just got lucky? Who knows, really. Tbh I barely had any idea of what I was doing so I just kinda winged it and didn't do that bad either. I saved Texas and expanded all the way to Cascadia. I industrialized fairly quickly and never had to deal with any serious threat at all. Allied with Central America (who lost El Salvador to nationalist rebels) and kept Liberia as my little puppet state. Got on Britain's good side though I did end up having to abandon my attempts to colonize British Columbia. I won 2-3 tug-of-war matches trying to colonize the unoccupied territories between me and Mexico. I built up a fairly large army and then prepared to Manifest Destiny myself across Mexico's northern territories, but fucking Britain had to intervene on their behalf because I was beating their numerically superior army's ass.

Honestly Britain just seems overpowered because it seems like they were involved in fucking everything that went on in the world. I ended up quitting the game because of their interference, which just pissed me off because now it was my numerically superior army getting stomped in my own territory. Before I quit I noticed they had like 199 influence over Mexico, which is probably why they got involved but I have honest to god no idea how they got it so high so quickly. Last I checked it was like 30 or something? Total bullshit; mind your own business, you stuck-up islanders.

Oh, and the Democratic party never lost an election. Somehow. I'm assuming it's because I was being rather populist. Anyway, I've learned some things from this experience:

1. Forts are totally useless

2. Fuck Britain

3. Always check the relations tab before you declare war

4. Always make sure you're militarily stronger than all your neighbors combined at the first opportunity
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:46 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:Okay so a recap of my first VicII game:

First of all I want to say that I like it. Very cool game, very interesting, very fun. I started off as the USA by recommendation and I have to say it's an excellent starting point because the sheer potential you have is totally insane. I don't know how, but I completely avoided the Civil War despite hammering down hard against the Pro-Slavery crowd and even outright outlawing slavery. Maybe I just got lucky? Who knows, really. Tbh I barely had any idea of what I was doing so I just kinda winged it and didn't do that bad either. I saved Texas and expanded all the way to Cascadia. I industrialized fairly quickly and never had to deal with any serious threat at all. Allied with Central America (who lost El Salvador to nationalist rebels) and kept Liberia as my little puppet state. Got on Britain's good side though I did end up having to abandon my attempts to colonize British Columbia. I won 2-3 tug-of-war matches trying to colonize the unoccupied territories between me and Mexico. I built up a fairly large army and then prepared to Manifest Destiny myself across Mexico's northern territories, but fucking Britain had to intervene on their behalf because I was beating their numerically superior army's ass.

Honestly Britain just seems overpowered because it seems like they were involved in fucking everything that went on in the world. I ended up quitting the game because of their interference, which just pissed me off because now it was my numerically superior army getting stomped in my own territory. Before I quit I noticed they had like 199 influence over Mexico, which is probably why they got involved but I have honest to god no idea how they got it so high so quickly. Last I checked it was like 30 or something? Total bullshit; mind your own business, you stuck-up islanders.

Oh, and the Democratic party never lost an election. Somehow. I'm assuming it's because I was being rather populist. Anyway, I've learned some things from this experience:

1. Forts are totally useless

2. Fuck Britain

3. Always check the relations tab before you declare war

4. Always make sure you're militarily stronger than all your neighbors combined at the first opportunity

What year did Britain fuck your armies up?
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:54 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:Okay so a recap of my first VicII game:

First of all I want to say that I like it. Very cool game, very interesting, very fun. I started off as the USA by recommendation and I have to say it's an excellent starting point because the sheer potential you have is totally insane. I don't know how, but I completely avoided the Civil War despite hammering down hard against the Pro-Slavery crowd and even outright outlawing slavery. Maybe I just got lucky? Who knows, really. Tbh I barely had any idea of what I was doing so I just kinda winged it and didn't do that bad either. I saved Texas and expanded all the way to Cascadia. I industrialized fairly quickly and never had to deal with any serious threat at all. Allied with Central America (who lost El Salvador to nationalist rebels) and kept Liberia as my little puppet state. Got on Britain's good side though I did end up having to abandon my attempts to colonize British Columbia. I won 2-3 tug-of-war matches trying to colonize the unoccupied territories between me and Mexico. I built up a fairly large army and then prepared to Manifest Destiny myself across Mexico's northern territories, but fucking Britain had to intervene on their behalf because I was beating their numerically superior army's ass.

Honestly Britain just seems overpowered because it seems like they were involved in fucking everything that went on in the world. I ended up quitting the game because of their interference, which just pissed me off because now it was my numerically superior army getting stomped in my own territory. Before I quit I noticed they had like 199 influence over Mexico, which is probably why they got involved but I have honest to god no idea how they got it so high so quickly. Last I checked it was like 30 or something? Total bullshit; mind your own business, you stuck-up islanders.

Oh, and the Democratic party never lost an election. Somehow. I'm assuming it's because I was being rather populist. Anyway, I've learned some things from this experience:

1. Forts are totally useless

2. Fuck Britain

3. Always check the relations tab before you declare war

4. Always make sure you're militarily stronger than all your neighbors combined at the first opportunity

What year did Britain fuck your armies up?


I don't remember the exact year, it was sometime in the 1860s.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:45 pm

Alvecia wrote:Rule Pritannia!

Well, for a little while at least. Hail Albion, the new republic.

That was a good session. After I'd taken most of the south, I was able to steamroll the remaining tribes.
The barbarians weren't quite an issue, as once I'd taken the Scottish cost I was able to spam Civilisation and neutralise them.
Took a little while to colonise the Emerald Isle. It takes some crazy stupid amounts of Civil and Oratory power, and a fair bit of micro moving pops around. No achievement for this as you need to do it in 50 years (God knows how you;d manage that) but I picked up a couple of basic ones related to tribes and civilisation, so that's something.

My goal for this run is basically done now, but I might stick around for a while, either consolidate, converting all the tribesmen, or maybe look to take land in the mainland.

The tribal chief's armies get crazy stupid big later on. It's a damn good job I don't have to pay for them (either in gold or manpower) cause those things would bankrupt me sharpish.


My guess for the 50 years would be to be that little Irish country or one of the Scots bordering ireland by sea, and unite Albion while using your capital to colonize ireland. Or maybe don't do any inventions and use all civic power to colonize.

Each invention is 4 pops moved. For two inventions, that's basically a front for colonialism opened up.

It mentions perfidy, so probably truce breaking involved too.

With 50 years, at 5 civic power per month (Fairly modest) you get 3000 civic power.

That's around 120 pop movements.

If you decentralize and shift to a migratory tribe you might be able to gimmick it a little better by abusing migration mechanics and simply shifting your pops around that way, since that splits the cost between civic and oratory and also allows you to open up random holes in Albion proper more likely to be immediately bordering population centers. By turning migratory you might also have a bit of an easier time conquering the place.

So like, all the provinces bordering London you can shift the pops over to Ireland, and use London to repopulate the area around london. Rinse/repeat for other population centers. If you're migratory you also get the migratory units, but that throws away pops I think, still viable for a rapid conquest though I think. Also, i'm pretty sure you then get the raiding ability, so you can pillage the mainland with migratory armies for slaves, and use those slaves to repopulate the area you sent to migrate.

Depopulate the area around london for about 30 units, use those 30 units to pillage and raid and get 50 slaves, net profit. Just move the migratory army back before it wipes completely and you're good. (Doesn't matter if it was 10,000 and is now 1,000, because you only need to settle that 1,000 in an Irish province and then boom, its yours.).


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After my Saxonia game i'll try Byzantium again. Lots of achievements there;

City of the worlds desire (15 trade routes in Byzantium), Hellenic League (Unite greece as a republic), Envy of the world (100 civilization in a city.).

My initial Byzantium runs have the problem of Thrace and Macedon being allies. Sometimes they split up, and you can take on Thrace by yourself, but Macedon is just too powerful. You either need the two of them busy and to hope you can run out the clock, or Macedon to abandon Thrace.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:58 pm

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Purpelia
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Libertarian Police State

Postby Purpelia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:24 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:Okay so a recap of my first VicII game:

First of all I want to say that I like it. Very cool game, very interesting, very fun. I started off as the USA by recommendation and I have to say it's an excellent starting point because the sheer potential you have is totally insane. I don't know how, but I completely avoided the Civil War despite hammering down hard against the Pro-Slavery crowd and even outright outlawing slavery. Maybe I just got lucky? Who knows, really. Tbh I barely had any idea of what I was doing so I just kinda winged it and didn't do that bad either. I saved Texas and expanded all the way to Cascadia. I industrialized fairly quickly and never had to deal with any serious threat at all. Allied with Central America (who lost El Salvador to nationalist rebels) and kept Liberia as my little puppet state. Got on Britain's good side though I did end up having to abandon my attempts to colonize British Columbia. I won 2-3 tug-of-war matches trying to colonize the unoccupied territories between me and Mexico. I built up a fairly large army and then prepared to Manifest Destiny myself across Mexico's northern territories, but fucking Britain had to intervene on their behalf because I was beating their numerically superior army's ass.

Honestly Britain just seems overpowered because it seems like they were involved in fucking everything that went on in the world. I ended up quitting the game because of their interference, which just pissed me off because now it was my numerically superior army getting stomped in my own territory. Before I quit I noticed they had like 199 influence over Mexico, which is probably why they got involved but I have honest to god no idea how they got it so high so quickly. Last I checked it was like 30 or something? Total bullshit; mind your own business, you stuck-up islanders.

Oh, and the Democratic party never lost an election. Somehow. I'm assuming it's because I was being rather populist. Anyway, I've learned some things from this experience:

1. Forts are totally useless

2. Fuck Britain

3. Always check the relations tab before you declare war

4. Always make sure you're militarily stronger than all your neighbors combined at the first opportunity

So what you are saying is that Britain was the only historically accurate part of that game.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby North German Realm » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:35 am

Purpelia wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:Okay so a recap of my first VicII game:

First of all I want to say that I like it. Very cool game, very interesting, very fun. I started off as the USA by recommendation and I have to say it's an excellent starting point because the sheer potential you have is totally insane. I don't know how, but I completely avoided the Civil War despite hammering down hard against the Pro-Slavery crowd and even outright outlawing slavery. Maybe I just got lucky? Who knows, really. Tbh I barely had any idea of what I was doing so I just kinda winged it and didn't do that bad either. I saved Texas and expanded all the way to Cascadia. I industrialized fairly quickly and never had to deal with any serious threat at all. Allied with Central America (who lost El Salvador to nationalist rebels) and kept Liberia as my little puppet state. Got on Britain's good side though I did end up having to abandon my attempts to colonize British Columbia. I won 2-3 tug-of-war matches trying to colonize the unoccupied territories between me and Mexico. I built up a fairly large army and then prepared to Manifest Destiny myself across Mexico's northern territories, but fucking Britain had to intervene on their behalf because I was beating their numerically superior army's ass.

Honestly Britain just seems overpowered because it seems like they were involved in fucking everything that went on in the world. I ended up quitting the game because of their interference, which just pissed me off because now it was my numerically superior army getting stomped in my own territory. Before I quit I noticed they had like 199 influence over Mexico, which is probably why they got involved but I have honest to god no idea how they got it so high so quickly. Last I checked it was like 30 or something? Total bullshit; mind your own business, you stuck-up islanders.

Oh, and the Democratic party never lost an election. Somehow. I'm assuming it's because I was being rather populist. Anyway, I've learned some things from this experience:

1. Forts are totally useless

2. Fuck Britain

3. Always check the relations tab before you declare war

4. Always make sure you're militarily stronger than all your neighbors combined at the first opportunity

So what you are saying is that Britain was the only historically accurate part of that game.

The thing about Victoria is that you need to make sure your target isn't in someone's SoI, and if they are you'd better be in good relations with the Sphere-owner.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:08 am

Got cucked by my best mate in the ck2 mod, drawn and quartered him, got made master of whispers of the iron throne, assassinated my whore wife, got beheaded by king Aegon Targaryen for murder, now im a 4 year old.


That was an eventful two years.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:14 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Got cucked by my best mate in the ck2 mod, drawn and quartered him, got made master of whispers of the iron throne, assassinated my whore wife, got beheaded by king Aegon Targaryen for murder, now im a 4 year old.


That was an eventful two years.

You must not have been a very good Master of Whispers if you got caught murdering your wife.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:26 am

Bralia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Got cucked by my best mate in the ck2 mod, drawn and quartered him, got made master of whispers of the iron throne, assassinated my whore wife, got beheaded by king Aegon Targaryen for murder, now im a 4 year old.


That was an eventful two years.

You must not have been a very good Master of Whispers if you got caught murdering your wife.

I had an intrigue of 32. But the bitch was fucking annoying me and was not getting caught so i did a manual assassination on her with a less than 20% of being caught out and the fucking assassin blabbed. Was on the job for a month.
Scary Spooky Leftist #19879417 An Atheist Irishman from Belfast Loyal to Dragonstone and the King in the Narrow Sea
"They fight bravely. They cannot harm our ships but they continue to try"
"Whether they fight or not they know the will die anyway, so really is this bravery or simple desperation?
"
Yeh: The Red Agenda, Purging the Xenos, Not being a prick, Vidya Gaemz, Art, Science, History, Old Gregg, Blondes, Redheads, Tattooed girls, Erecting fortifications, Tanks.
Neh: The Blue Agenda, Being a prick, Xenos, Racism, National/Religious wankery, Zealots, Gatekeeping, Alt-right/SJW Snowflakes, Random lists, Dismantling Fortifications, Cabbage.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:39 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Bralia wrote:You must not have been a very good Master of Whispers if you got caught murdering your wife.

I had an intrigue of 32. But the bitch was fucking annoying me and was not getting caught so i did a manual assassination on her with a less than 20% of being caught out and the fucking assassin blabbed. Was on the job for a month.

. . . damn. I was expecting to double-down on the whole "you're bad" joke, but I'm actually mad and on your side, that's some horrible luck.
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Wife and queen to King Huskar the Mannis. May his reign be long and great.
Entranced and enchanted by an embrace. In love with locked lips. I cannot lie when I meet your eyes.

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