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Which faction deserved to win the Spanish Civil War?

The Anarchists
5
19%
The Communists
1
4%
An Alliance Between The Anarchists And The Communists
4
15%
The Internationale Brigades who would have established a Communist Spain
0
No votes
Literally any faction that was not Fascist nor Franco
16
62%
 
Total votes : 26

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The Grene Knyght
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:36 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Actually, as far as I remember, the popes in the early middle ages were quite dynastic, in a similar way to how merchant republics are represented in CK2. A few families of Rome vying for power in order to receive that sweet sweet tax on pilgrims. Wasn't until maybe the 12th century renaissance or a tad earlier that it became less secular and more influential outside Rome, but various dynasties continued to hold sway well into the actual renaissance.

Yeah, but they were all bastards because Popes were not allowed marry as head of religion. I do know that there were several dynasties, but they were all illegitimate at best. That’s atleast what I was told in history class.

Not necessarily. Many popes were related to one another as nephews or cousins. Some popes did marry and have children before becoming pope also. Besides which, these were landed, aristocratic dynasties we're talking about. They vied for control of the papacy for centuries, but only one person could be pope at a time (usually). The dynasties still continued.
     
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:57 pm

Starting my new game in a shattered world. random religion, random culture, random everything, save for government which is only nomadic and tribal. The tech is also flat, and the holdings are random. Should be interesting.

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Postby The Imperial Reach » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:10 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:So I just realized I've never played Tibetan or Bön characters since Tibet became available, which is odd because I've played pretty much everywhere and everything. I think I'll give them a try after my current game finishes; see if I can't rule Tibet as a Bön and then reform the faith into... something. Of course I'm a bit worried being right next China because Lord knows the Western Protectorate is OP as fuck.


Personally I avoid playing Tibetan rulers of that religion because it's a pet peeve of mine since Bön is just an extension of Tibetan Buddhism that pretends to be older than what it is. Rather than a separate religion which competes for the heart of Tibet in the medieval period. But PDX threw out a desire for historical accuracy a long time ago.


Bruh they threw it out of CKII the minute the game came out. Zikri exists as a Sunni heresy from the beginning even though it's founder wasn't even born until 1443. He wouldn't found Zikrism until 1496 either, which is 43 years after the game ends. It was therefor never historically accurate.
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Postby Bralia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:25 pm

Imperator: Rome is supposed to come out at the specifically scheduled 9 AM PST, according to secondary sources.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:11 am

Bralia wrote:Imperator: Rome is supposed to come out at the specifically scheduled 9 AM PST, according to secondary sources.

So 5 o clock then.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:13 am

I watched Many a True Nerds live stream from the paradox multiplayer event in Imperator Rome, was a good show.


Especially when he got near 400k Egyptian men killed towards the end of the third part trying to capture Rome for bragging rights.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bralia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:34 am

I just spent, like, two full hours preparing to invade the L-Cluster only to end up getting the one option that doesn't involve catastrophic slaughter. On the other hand, I have a friendly Titan class sapient warship working for me now, so it all buffs out.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:04 am

Bralia wrote:I just spent, like, two full hours preparing to invade the L-Cluster only to end up getting the one option that doesn't involve catastrophic slaughter. On the other hand, I have a friendly Titan class sapient warship working for me now, so it all buffs out.


At this point, I'd be elated if that happened in my game.
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Lunas Legion
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:25 am

Bralia wrote:Imperator: Rome is supposed to come out at the specifically scheduled 9 AM PST, according to secondary sources.


4 o'clock GMT then which from memory is Paradox's usual release timing, so seems accurate enough.

Won't be buying it until a bit after release as I sadly have RL work that having it will distract me from.
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valrifell » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:03 pm

I hope I can play as Vercingetorix, kill Julius Caesar, and create the Gallic Empire.

If not than this game is a bust.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:29 pm

Valrifell wrote:I hope I can play as Vercingetorix, kill Julius Caesar, and create the Gallic Empire.

If not than this game is a bust.

Hmm actually, does IR have multiple starting dates or is it just the one?
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Washington Resistance Army
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:29 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Valrifell wrote:I hope I can play as Vercingetorix, kill Julius Caesar, and create the Gallic Empire.

If not than this game is a bust.

Hmm actually, does IR have multiple starting dates or is it just the one?


Just one and they aren't adding more.

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Hammer Britannia
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hmm actually, does IR have multiple starting dates or is it just the one?


Just one and they aren't adding more.

... Yeah, screw you Paradox.

No money for u. I wanted to play as a comfy Greek-City state, but instead, I get Alexander the Controversial.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:36 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Just one and they aren't adding more.

... Yeah, screw you Paradox.

No money for u. I wanted to play as a comfy Greek-City state, but instead, I get Alexander the Controversial.

It doesnt bother me personally.


Also because the clusterfuck of massive empire's disintegrating and the shit that causes is juicy goodness.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:39 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:... Yeah, screw you Paradox.

No money for u. I wanted to play as a comfy Greek-City state, but instead, I get Alexander the Controversial.

It doesnt bother me personally.


Also because the clusterfuck of massive empire's disintegrating and the shit that causes is juicy goodness.

Yeah, in all seriousness, I'm just gonna sit back and wait a couple of days till I get it. Even if I can't play as a comfy playthrough, the game still looks fun.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:52 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Hmm actually, does IR have multiple starting dates or is it just the one?


Just one and they aren't adding more.


Boo. Hss. Now I have to use some rando for my Gallic Empire. Totally unfair!
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Hammer Britannia
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:53 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Just one and they aren't adding more.


Boo. Hss. Now I have to use some rando for my Gallic Empire. Totally unfair!

I mean, some very nice and talented person could add more starting dates.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:58 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:It doesnt bother me personally.


Also because the clusterfuck of massive empire's disintegrating and the shit that causes is juicy goodness.

Yeah, in all seriousness, I'm just gonna sit back and wait a couple of days till I get it. Even if I can't play as a comfy playthrough, the game still looks fun.

Im looking for something to fill the void of EU4, and games like that.

The only real paradox game ive been playing actively a lot is HOI4 and im getting a bit burnt out on it (its also not the same as EU4), so ive started playing ck2 again today, messing around in the game of thrones mod (doing my favourite past time of murdering lannister children as stannis baratheon) and to me IR looks like it could be a more fun EU4, its grown on me a lot now since its initial reveal (where i didnt really care) and im thinking i might pick it up a bit after launch as a result to scratch that itch.

If its good that is at launch, if its broken or something ill hold off and ill watch more gameplay at launch before deciding.
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:10 pm

Why did they never add more start-dates to HOI4? I wanted to try playing the Italian Social Republic in a 1944 scenario, similar to what was in HOI3, but they never added it to the game.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Why did they never add more start-dates to HOI4? I wanted to try playing the Italian Social Republic in a 1944 scenario, similar to what was in HOI3, but they never added it to the game.


It's just not worth the effort. The numbers they have show the overwhelmingly vast amount of people only ever use the first and earliest start date.

Though if you want to play the ISR in 1944 Endsieg is a good mod that lets you do just that.

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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:07 pm

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Just one and they aren't adding more.

... Yeah, screw you Paradox.

No money for u. I wanted to play as a comfy Greek-City state, but instead, I get Alexander the Controversial.

I only ever really play
The earliest start in HoI4, earliest start in EU4, CK2 usually Charlemagne or Viking era start, or the default start.

And that's about it. I like to stay early, more time fucking around then.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:13 pm

*Armenia sees IR coming out*

"Bois it's my time to shine."

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Postby The Imperial Reach » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:52 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:Why did they never add more start-dates to HOI4? I wanted to try playing the Italian Social Republic in a 1944 scenario, similar to what was in HOI3, but they never added it to the game.


Why would you want to play a glorified Nazi puppet state that barely last 3 years and only controlled half of Italy?

Holy Tedalonia wrote:I like to start early, more time fucking around then.


^Exactly this.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:55 pm

The Imperial Reach wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:Why did they never add more start-dates to HOI4? I wanted to try playing the Italian Social Republic in a 1944 scenario, similar to what was in HOI3, but they never added it to the game.


Why would you want to play a glorified Nazi puppet state that barely last 3 years and only controlled half of Italy?


It's a damn fun challenge.

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Postby The Imperial Reach » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:00 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1720976546

Bohemia! Why do you do this? You've massacred all things borders, how could you?


Bohemia in 769 is always the worst offender of bordergore in every game. They expand ridiculously and just trash everything around them - Bavaria, Avaria, Poland, Pomerania, Germany, etc. The second worst offender is either Uyghur or Khazaria - both of which completely butcher their respective end of the steppes and nearby Feudal/Tribal territories.
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