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Which faction deserved to win the Spanish Civil War?

The Anarchists
5
18%
The Communists
2
7%
An Alliance Between The Anarchists And The Communists
4
14%
The Internationale Brigades who would have established a Communist Spain
0
No votes
Literally any faction that was not Fascist nor Franco
17
61%
 
Total votes : 28

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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:26 am

Playing CK2 as a relatively peaceful muslim ruler of Sicily, focusing on building universities and writing scientific papers. Pope calls a crusade against me and demolishes me, I'm only left with some holdings I inherited in Spain. Now I'm turning my formidable learning skill of 42 towards taking my revenge, and I've just constructed an actual handgun.
     
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:31 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:Playing CK2 as a relatively peaceful muslim ruler of Sicily, focusing on building universities and writing scientific papers. Pope calls a crusade against me and demolishes me, I'm only left with some holdings I inherited in Spain. Now I'm turning my formidable learning skill of 42 towards taking my revenge, and I've just constructed an actual handgun.

Lol, if only you could single handily kill the pope with that gun and name it justice.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:35 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Playing CK2 as a relatively peaceful muslim ruler of Sicily, focusing on building universities and writing scientific papers. Pope calls a crusade against me and demolishes me, I'm only left with some holdings I inherited in Spain. Now I'm turning my formidable learning skill of 42 towards taking my revenge, and I've just constructed an actual handgun.

Lol, if only you could single handily kill the pope with that gun and name it justice.

Speaking of Popes, is it possible to have my game's Pope to secretly turn Muslim? Just to see the chaos that will follow
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:39 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Lol, if only you could single handily kill the pope with that gun and name it justice.

Speaking of Popes, is it possible to have my game's Pope to secretly turn Muslim? Just to see the chaos that will follow

Probably not while he's in office, but if you can get a secret Muslim into the College of Cardinals and murder every other cardinal, then you'll get a secretly Muslim pope.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:39 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Playing CK2 as a relatively peaceful muslim ruler of Sicily, focusing on building universities and writing scientific papers. Pope calls a crusade against me and demolishes me, I'm only left with some holdings I inherited in Spain. Now I'm turning my formidable learning skill of 42 towards taking my revenge, and I've just constructed an actual handgun.

Lol, if only you could single handily kill the pope with that gun and name it justice.

I'm pretty sure that you can do both of those things - attack the Pope and hope you can fight him on the battlefield to kill him with the gun, and then just rename it.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:40 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Lol, if only you could single handily kill the pope with that gun and name it justice.

Speaking of Popes, is it possible to have my game's Pope to secretly turn Muslim? Just to see the chaos that will follow

Reminds me of the time, someone asked if they could have a romantic relationship with the pope as a homosexual. My answer...

*shrugs*

God knows what would happen.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:45 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:Speaking of Popes, is it possible to have my game's Pope to secretly turn Muslim? Just to see the chaos that will follow

Reminds me of the time, someone asked if they could have a romantic relationship with the pope as a homosexual. My answer...

*shrugs*

God knows what would happen.

He certainly does.
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Postby North German Realm » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:51 am

Lunas Legion wrote:
North German Realm wrote:The Situation in North Africa, following the dismantling of the mighty (not really) French Empire. This world's first world war was essentially real life WW's opposite. I dominated France and got all the way to Paris in 1909 (2 months after the war started), but Russia actually reached Berlin because of their stacks, so I couldn't dismantle them too.


0/10 not beating up France so hard they become your friend then you invade and dismantle Russia together.

God that was a glorious Austria run.
Damn that's a wonderful idea. I wonder if I should have done that.
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Postby North German Realm » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:51 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
North German Realm wrote:The Situation in North Africa, following the dismantling of the mighty (not really) French Empire. This world's first world war was essentially real life WW's opposite. I dominated France and got all the way to Paris in 1909 (2 months after the war started), but Russia actually reached Berlin because of their stacks, so I couldn't dismantle them too.

Sounds like you're describing WW2.

I did convince the Russians, while at the gates of Berlin, to demobilize, go home, and let me dismantle France so uh... not really?
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:01 am

North German Realm wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Sounds like you're describing WW2.

I did convince the Russians, while at the gates of Berlin, to demobilize, go home, and let me dismantle France so uh... not really?

I'd like to see that movie tbh.
"We fought through legions of German troops to get to Berlin! We want the Kaiser's head!"
"Eh m8, I beat the crap out of France so you should go away"
"Oh ok, we'll just go home then."

Or perhaps Russia simply didn't want to be dragged into this war and wasn't interested in bailing out France, and knew that pissing off Germany would probably come back to bite them in the future. Probably that.
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Postby North German Realm » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:05 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
North German Realm wrote:I did convince the Russians, while at the gates of Berlin, to demobilize, go home, and let me dismantle France so uh... not really?

I'd like to see that movie tbh.
"We fought through legions of German troops to get to Berlin! We want the Kaiser's head!"
"Eh m8, I beat the crap out of France so you should go away"
"Oh ok, we'll just go home then."

Or perhaps Russia simply didn't want to be dragged into this war and wasn't interested in bailing out France, and knew that pissing off Germany would probably come back to bite them in the future. Probably that.

Fun Fact, before the war became The Great War (2 weeks into the war, when France invented that), it was known as "The German War of Aggression on Russia" :p

Yeah I'm not sure how I pulled that off either. I war fucked in the colonies (especially in Ghana) and Russia was all the way to Berlin (my mobilization fall back line was in Brandenburg, if you can believe it), but I reached Brittany, so uh... "Yeah, sorry we started a war of Aggression against you. Friends?"
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:24 am

North German Realm wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I'd like to see that movie tbh.
"We fought through legions of German troops to get to Berlin! We want the Kaiser's head!"
"Eh m8, I beat the crap out of France so you should go away"
"Oh ok, we'll just go home then."

Or perhaps Russia simply didn't want to be dragged into this war and wasn't interested in bailing out France, and knew that pissing off Germany would probably come back to bite them in the future. Probably that.

Fun Fact, before the war became The Great War (2 weeks into the war, when France invented that), it was known as "The German War of Aggression on Russia" :p

Yeah I'm not sure how I pulled that off either. I war fucked in the colonies (especially in Ghana) and Russia was all the way to Berlin (my mobilization fall back line was in Brandenburg, if you can believe it), but I reached Brittany, so uh... "Yeah, sorry we started a war of Aggression against you. Friends?"

In that case, it was probably more of a "holy s*** they killed France, best quit while we're ahead before they come back with their real army".
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:28 am

When I first started getting in to ck2 I really wanted to do a muslim pope run, but I didn't realise that they somehow haven't released a theocracy DLC yet.
     
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:31 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:When I first started getting in to ck2 I really wanted to do a muslim pope run, but I didn't realise that they somehow haven't released a theocracy DLC yet.

They did, (“Sons of Abraham”) it just doesnt really allow you to play as a theocracy still. CK2 focuses on dynasties... and the popes werent dynastic, save for a few bastard borns here and there.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:36 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:When I first started getting in to ck2 I really wanted to do a muslim pope run, but I didn't realise that they somehow haven't released a theocracy DLC yet.

Theocracies don't use dynastic succession, so playing as them would basically be an instant game over.
However, you can follow the following steps:
1: Open the console with the "`" (or "~") key.
2: Type in "charinfo" and mouse over the Pope. Remember or write down the character ID you see.
3: Type in "set_government <character ID (without brackets)> feudal_government".
4: Type in "play <character ID (without brackets)>.
5: Type in "set_religion <character ID (without brackets)> sunni_muslim (or "shia muslim", or "yazidi_muslim", or whatever)".
6 (optional): Type in "add_trait immortal" to make yourself immortal, so you'll always be playing the same character.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:37 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Bralia wrote:So . . . I discovered and colonized the First League ecumenopolis a long time time ago and I recently discovered an uncolonized and unoccupied Cybrex ringworld in the Alpha Quadrant of my galaxy. And I can get it. Do I even need planets anymore?

Yes and no. You don't need them, but they'll help for basic resources that you can't get from the ecumenopolis or ringworld (such as minerals).

And on a different topic, I just discovered a way to completely cheese the game: Machine Empire (just a basic ME), with Habitable Worlds and Primitive Civilizations set to 5x. You'll be absolutely swimming in planets because of your habitability buff, and you'll be able to roll over the entire galaxy (excluding Fallen Empires) by 2300. Administrative capacity is the only real issue, but because of all the tech you'll be getting from your tech-focused worlds, you'll be able to minimize the effects of being over admin cap and also increase admin cap through tech.


I apparently have the strongest fleet in my current game at 1.6k (which, considering how far into the game I am, is really bad by my own standards, which means its absolutely abysmal by everyone else's). I'm currently trying to build an L-gate quarantine system (which is why my fleet is so underpowered, because all of my alloys have been going to beefing up starbases) before opening up my L-gate.

Personally, I've always thought about playing full on Fanatic Purifiers with post-apocalyptic. Its free real estate terraforming!
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Postby Lunas Legion » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:41 am

North German Realm wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
0/10 not beating up France so hard they become your friend then you invade and dismantle Russia together.

God that was a glorious Austria run.
Damn that's a wonderful idea. I wonder if I should have done that.


They also helped me keep the Prussians down and all the tiny German states as Austrian satellite states. After France was dismantled and had learned their place they were a bro. Helped my ass out in murdering the Russians so much.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:42 am

Grenartia wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Yes and no. You don't need them, but they'll help for basic resources that you can't get from the ecumenopolis or ringworld (such as minerals).

And on a different topic, I just discovered a way to completely cheese the game: Machine Empire (just a basic ME), with Habitable Worlds and Primitive Civilizations set to 5x. You'll be absolutely swimming in planets because of your habitability buff, and you'll be able to roll over the entire galaxy (excluding Fallen Empires) by 2300. Administrative capacity is the only real issue, but because of all the tech you'll be getting from your tech-focused worlds, you'll be able to minimize the effects of being over admin cap and also increase admin cap through tech.


I apparently have the strongest fleet in my current game at 1.6k (which, considering how far into the game I am, is really bad by my own standards, which means its absolutely abysmal by everyone else's). I'm currently trying to build an L-gate quarantine system before opening up my L-gate.

Personally, I've always thought about playing full on Fanatic Purifiers with post-apocalyptic. Its free real estate terraforming!

What civics are you running?

And I've long thought about running fanatic purifiers with Survivor, flavoring it as "our planet was almost destroyed by an alien invasion that we were only barely able to stop, so now that we're in space, we're going to make them pay". I think my next run might be either that or using Survivor and Shared Burdens to create the perfect Posadist utopia.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:48 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I apparently have the strongest fleet in my current game at 1.6k (which, considering how far into the game I am, is really bad by my own standards, which means its absolutely abysmal by everyone else's). I'm currently trying to build an L-gate quarantine system before opening up my L-gate.

Personally, I've always thought about playing full on Fanatic Purifiers with post-apocalyptic. Its free real estate terraforming!

What civics are you running?


I don't recall at the moment, but I'm running an expanded starbases mod, so I can upgrade to citadels with 24 modules and buildings, a mod that brings back the old tier 2 and 3 fortresses, tactical ship sections (adds a bunch of cool shit for corvettes and destroyers), and a planetary defense mod. So my strat probably won't apply to a vanilla game.

And I've long thought about running fanatic purifiers with Survivor, flavoring it as "our planet was almost destroyed by an alien invasion that we were only barely able to stop, so now that we're in space, we're going to make them pay". I think my next run might be either that or using Survivor and Shared Burdens to create the perfect Posadist utopia.


Nice.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:50 am

Grenartia wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Yes and no. You don't need them, but they'll help for basic resources that you can't get from the ecumenopolis or ringworld (such as minerals).

And on a different topic, I just discovered a way to completely cheese the game: Machine Empire (just a basic ME), with Habitable Worlds and Primitive Civilizations set to 5x. You'll be absolutely swimming in planets because of your habitability buff, and you'll be able to roll over the entire galaxy (excluding Fallen Empires) by 2300. Administrative capacity is the only real issue, but because of all the tech you'll be getting from your tech-focused worlds, you'll be able to minimize the effects of being over admin cap and also increase admin cap through tech.


I apparently have the strongest fleet in my current game at 1.6k (which, considering how far into the game I am, is really bad by my own standards, which means its absolutely abysmal by everyone else's). I'm currently trying to build an L-gate quarantine system (which is why my fleet is so underpowered, because all of my alloys have been going to beefing up starbases) before opening up my L-gate.

Personally, I've always thought about playing full on Fanatic Purifiers with post-apocalyptic. Its free real estate terraforming!

Fanatic Purifiers with Life Seeded. You won't be able to colonise anything, but who cares, those other planets all stick of xenos.
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:06 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:When I first started getting in to ck2 I really wanted to do a muslim pope run, but I didn't realise that they somehow haven't released a theocracy DLC yet.

They did, (“Sons of Abraham”) it just doesnt really allow you to play as a theocracy still. CK2 focuses on dynasties... and the popes werent dynastic, save for a few bastard borns here and there.

Actually, as far as I remember, the popes in the early middle ages were quite dynastic, in a similar way to how merchant republics are represented in CK2. A few families of Rome vying for power in order to receive that sweet sweet tax on pilgrims. Wasn't until maybe the 12th century renaissance or a tad earlier that it became less secular and more influential outside Rome, but various dynasties continued to hold sway well into the actual renaissance.
     
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Postby Heloin » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:13 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:They did, (“Sons of Abraham”) it just doesnt really allow you to play as a theocracy still. CK2 focuses on dynasties... and the popes werent dynastic, save for a few bastard borns here and there.

Actually, as far as I remember, the popes in the early middle ages were quite dynastic, in a similar way to how merchant republics are represented in CK2. A few families of Rome vying for power in order to receive that sweet sweet tax on pilgrims. Wasn't until maybe the 12th century renaissance or a tad earlier that it became less secular and more influential outside Rome, but various dynasties continued to hold sway well into the actual renaissance.

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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:21 am

Heloin wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Actually, as far as I remember, the popes in the early middle ages were quite dynastic, in a similar way to how merchant republics are represented in CK2. A few families of Rome vying for power in order to receive that sweet sweet tax on pilgrims. Wasn't until maybe the 12th century renaissance or a tad earlier that it became less secular and more influential outside Rome, but various dynasties continued to hold sway well into the actual renaissance.

About everything you said but the other way around.

Can't argue with that I guess
     
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Holy Tedalonia
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:23 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:They did, (“Sons of Abraham”) it just doesnt really allow you to play as a theocracy still. CK2 focuses on dynasties... and the popes werent dynastic, save for a few bastard borns here and there.

Actually, as far as I remember, the popes in the early middle ages were quite dynastic, in a similar way to how merchant republics are represented in CK2. A few families of Rome vying for power in order to receive that sweet sweet tax on pilgrims. Wasn't until maybe the 12th century renaissance or a tad earlier that it became less secular and more influential outside Rome, but various dynasties continued to hold sway well into the actual renaissance.

Yeah, but they were all bastards because Popes were not allowed marry as head of religion. I do know that there were several dynasties, but they were all illegitimate at best. That’s atleast what I was told in history class.
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