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by Abserdia » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:08 pm
by Purpelia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:45 am
by Bralia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:22 am
Purpelia wrote:What ever the case is fact is it's not even remotely reliable as a source of gaining more land. Which is why Christians suck in the game. Zero blob potential.
by Purpelia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:41 am
Bralia wrote:Purpelia wrote:What ever the case is fact is it's not even remotely reliable as a source of gaining more land. Which is why Christians suck in the game. Zero blob potential.
Okay, I haven't been paying any attention to your conversation at all, but if you're going to reduce it to that soundbite, I'm just going to say your downright damn wrong. I've been blobbing hard all game and almost all thanks to the Pope. Gaining claims has never been easier.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:45 am
by The Batavia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:10 am
The Imperial Reach wrote:I'm not forgetting any of that, nor am I biased.
Look into the conflicts between Christian and Muslim states during the Middle Ages, especially the larger ones involving multiple participants. The Muslims are often far more organized and united, whereas the Christians are typically comprised of scheming, ambitious, or cowardly lords who'd sooner beat a Christian of a different sect than work with him. For fucks sake, the Crusaders literally fight against the Byzantines in the Third Crusade. I don't even need to mention the Fourth Crusade. Unless I missed something, Sunni's and Shi'ites were able to unite together to fight the Crusaders and never broke their alliance. The same could not be said for Orthodox and Catholic Christians, as the Crusaders and Byzantines were constantly scheming and betraying each other.
This disunity and failed alliance did in fact hamper the Crusaders' efforts to hold onto the Holy Land and also the Byzantines' efforts to retake lost territory.
by Frievolk » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:21 am
The Imperial Reach wrote:
I'm not forgetting any of that, nor am I biased.
Look into the conflicts between Christian and Muslim states during the Middle Ages, especially the larger ones involving multiple participants. The Muslims are often far more organized and united, whereas the Christians are typically comprised of scheming, ambitious, or cowardly lords who'd sooner beat a Christian of a different sect than work with him. For fucks sake, the Crusaders literally fight against the Byzantines in the Third Crusade. I don't even need to mention the Fourth Crusade. Unless I missed something, Sunni's and Shi'ites were able to unite together to fight the Crusaders and never broke their alliance. The same could not be said for Orthodox and Catholic Christians, as the Crusaders and Byzantines were constantly scheming and betraying each other.
This disunity and failed alliance did in fact hamper the Crusaders' efforts to hold onto the Holy Land and also the Byzantines' efforts to retake lost territory.
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by The Imperial Reach » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:56 am
Purpelia wrote:Bralia wrote:Okay, I haven't been paying any attention to your conversation at all, but if you're going to reduce it to that soundbite, I'm just going to say your downright damn wrong. I've been blobbing hard all game and almost all thanks to the Pope. Gaining claims has never been easier.
I will admit not to have tried it since the pagan expansion came out. What ever the one that lets you play as the vikings is called. But from my memory your only real option was to wait for Crusades which take forever to start or to fabricate claims which happens once in a blue moon. How much has that changed?
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So I decided to take a spin as the US in the new update for the Cold War mod and my god boys, we've almost done it.
I already crushed the communists in Korea and after a horribly long slog in China my forces are finally turning the tide against Mao and Chiang now his outnumbered by 2-3 and with American help we're quickly driving towards Beijing.
Best timeline.
The Batavia wrote:The Imperial Reach wrote:I'm not forgetting any of that, nor am I biased.
Look into the conflicts between Christian and Muslim states during the Middle Ages, especially the larger ones involving multiple participants. The Muslims are often far more organized and united, whereas the Christians are typically comprised of scheming, ambitious, or cowardly lords who'd sooner beat a Christian of a different sect than work with him. For fucks sake, the Crusaders literally fight against the Byzantines in the Third Crusade. I don't even need to mention the Fourth Crusade. Unless I missed something, Sunni's and Shi'ites were able to unite together to fight the Crusaders and never broke their alliance. The same could not be said for Orthodox and Catholic Christians, as the Crusaders and Byzantines were constantly scheming and betraying each other.
This disunity and failed alliance did in fact hamper the Crusaders' efforts to hold onto the Holy Land and also the Byzantines' efforts to retake lost territory.
Not to mention that some of the Crusader Orders (Like the Teutonic Order) Were some of the first states to convert to Protestantism.
Frievolk wrote:The Imperial Reach wrote:
I'm not forgetting any of that, nor am I biased.
Look into the conflicts between Christian and Muslim states during the Middle Ages, especially the larger ones involving multiple participants. The Muslims are often far more organized and united, whereas the Christians are typically comprised of scheming, ambitious, or cowardly lords who'd sooner beat a Christian of a different sect than work with him. For fucks sake, the Crusaders literally fight against the Byzantines in the Third Crusade. I don't even need to mention the Fourth Crusade. Unless I missed something, Sunni's and Shi'ites were able to unite together to fight the Crusaders and never broke their alliance. The same could not be said for Orthodox and Catholic Christians, as the Crusaders and Byzantines were constantly scheming and betraying each other.
This disunity and failed alliance did in fact hamper the Crusaders' efforts to hold onto the Holy Land and also the Byzantines' efforts to retake lost territory.
I mean, the Shia and the Sunni had this thing called the Persian-Ottoman wars that started as soon as the Shia were capable of forming a Powerful Country.
by Bralia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:15 am
by The Imperial Reach » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:59 am
Bralia wrote:And so it comes to an end. I think I only need to share two screenshots to show off the interesting parts of the world:
Upper Christianity and Lower Christianity. The bottom half of the map largely remains Orthodox, although the Maghreb leader become Christian for some odd reason, in the final years. The vast majority of the Muslims reside within the Kakuyid and Fatimid realms and the religion won't be getting back up after the last Crusade seized and formed that Arabian state.
Think I'm going to try a shattered world now, I want to play in range of China. Can't decide if I want to keep religions historical or not, though, being a normal Zoroastrian is tempting . . .
by Bralia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:50 am
The Imperial Reach wrote:Bralia wrote:And so it comes to an end. I think I only need to share two screenshots to show off the interesting parts of the world:
Upper Christianity and Lower Christianity. The bottom half of the map largely remains Orthodox, although the Maghreb leader become Christian for some odd reason, in the final years. The vast majority of the Muslims reside within the Kakuyid and Fatimid realms and the religion won't be getting back up after the last Crusade seized and formed that Arabian state.
Think I'm going to try a shattered world now, I want to play in range of China. Can't decide if I want to keep religions historical or not, though, being a normal Zoroastrian is tempting . . .
I think you mean Fathid, because I see no Fatimid on the map.
Anyway, obligatory DEUS VULT!
by Ithalian Empire » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:29 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So I decided to take a spin as the US in the new update for the Cold War mod and my god boys, we've almost done it.
I already crushed the communists in Korea and after a horribly long slog in China my forces are finally turning the tide against Mao and Chiang now his outnumbered by 2-3 and with American help we're quickly driving towards Beijing.
Best timeline.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:36 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So I decided to take a spin as the US in the new update for the Cold War mod and my god boys, we've almost done it.
I already crushed the communists in Korea and after a horribly long slog in China my forces are finally turning the tide against Mao and Chiang now his outnumbered by 2-3 and with American help we're quickly driving towards Beijing.
Best timeline.
by Abserdia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:13 pm
by Ithalian Empire » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:00 pm
by Abserdia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:53 pm
by Bralia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:15 pm
Abserdia wrote:I sure do love when your daughter-in-law kills your son and heir who also happens to be the king of France so you have to kill your granddaughters to inherit France but everything gets messed up so then your new heir for some reason ends up being your daughter who's patrilineally married to a Karling at the age of 30-something so you have to invite her husband to your court and execute him so you can marry your daughter to your son.
Also ??????????????????
That's my grandson ??????????????????
by Abserdia » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:19 pm
Bralia wrote:Abserdia wrote:I sure do love when your daughter-in-law kills your son and heir who also happens to be the king of France so you have to kill your granddaughters to inherit France but everything gets messed up so then your new heir for some reason ends up being your daughter who's patrilineally married to a Karling at the age of 30-something so you have to invite her husband to your court and execute him so you can marry your daughter to your son.
Also ??????????????????
That's my grandson ??????????????????
What in the world happened to Rome?
by The Imperial Reach » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:41 pm
Abserdia wrote:I sure do love when your daughter-in-law kills your son and heir who also happens to be the king of France so you have to kill your granddaughters to inherit France but everything gets messed up so then your new heir for some reason ends up being your daughter who's patrilineally married to a Karling at the age of 30-something so you have to invite her husband to your court and execute him so you can marry your daughter to your son.
Also ??????????????????
That's my grandson ??????????????????
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:23 am
by Lunas Legion » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:25 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:You ever dab on Japan so hard that you take negative casualties?
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:46 am
Lunas Legion wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:You ever dab on Japan so hard that you take negative casualties?
So...
You managed to recruit 10,000 Japanese people to fight for you from their army? Is that how that works?
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:47 am
by Purpelia » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:47 am
Lunas Legion wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:You ever dab on Japan so hard that you take negative casualties?
So...
You managed to recruit 10,000 Japanese people to fight for you from their army? Is that how that works?
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