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SCP-5001: The SCP Discussion Thread

Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:44 pm

Item #: SCP-5001

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Special Containment Procedures: No special procedure is needed for SCP-5001 so far, with the only restrictions being that the participants of the thread must be older than 13 years old, and that they must adhere to the rules accordant to OSRS of NationStates' Forums.

Description: SCP-5001 is a forum post made on the political simulation website named NationStates. Given the nature of discussing sensitive information of the Foundation, and possible fourth-wall breaks, it currently resides in the Site "Arts & Fiction", with discussion being open to all the users, bar the users younger than 13 years old (see Special Containment Procedure). The Original Post, designated SCP-5000-X, has been made here, and here, and here but given the website's rules, it has been unofficially laid to rest without a lock, and no further discussion can be made there.

SCP-5001 Documentation:

All right, that's enough roleplay from me. So, I searched a little bit through Google to see if there's still a SCP thread going around in NS. Many of them are either dead, or just RP stuff, so I figured that I would get a go at an OOC discussion (and hopefully not failing at it).

With that said, first question: What is your favorite SCP? Mine would have to be SCP-093.

I have read the main article, along with the exploration logs and recovered materials. All of these things fascinated me because we are looking at abandoned world where even The Foundation had little idea of what has happened. Perhaps a dimensional jumper a la Time Lord that happened to stumble upon these people, and declared himself as their God. Cue theism, and advanced technology, but at a price of their "Sins" devouring them.

If I could, I would totally explore that area, though I would also ask that they give me an assault rifle or a shotgun instead of a measely pistol. I always love the idea of walking around an abandoned place, where I am the only person around. Zombie apocalypses are not really my thing, given the gross nature, and that dying by zombies is a horrible way to go (but that's another story!)


Another favorite is SCP-450.

An abandoned death row block where most of the restrictions are 25-based, e.g. only walk at 25 cm / sec pace. Add that to the fact that these little dos (and don'ts) might actually not even work at all, or worse, amplify the effects of whatever is inside there!
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:47 pm

093 is a great one, easily in my top 20. SCP Illustrated recently went through the whole series of logs for that one, and they are excellently done as usual.

SCP 1609 is such a good defence for the SCP approach that I really consider it a vital one for someone who wants to understand the mindset and universe. A similar thing with SCP 1730 (which, to be honest, if you're not listening to this while reading the last few entries, you're doing it wrong).

As for raw favourites.... SCP 516 can only make me smile. SCP 423 has the best description of James Joyce's Ulysses I've ever seen. SCP 3930 is simply spooky on a level difficult to point a finger on.

And 682 is such a troll I don't think we even need to elaborate on it :p .
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:42 pm

Chan Island wrote:093 is a great one, easily in my top 20. SCP Illustrated recently went through the whole series of logs for that one, and they are excellently done as usual.

SCP 1609 is such a good defence for the SCP approach that I really consider it a vital one for someone who wants to understand the mindset and universe. A similar thing with SCP 1730 (which, to be honest, if you're not listening to this while reading the last few entries, you're doing it wrong).

As for raw favourites.... SCP 516 can only make me smile. SCP 423 has the best description of James Joyce's Ulysses I've ever seen. SCP 3930 is simply spooky on a level difficult to point a finger on.

And 682 is such a troll I don't think we even need to elaborate on it :p .


682 is like a computer bug; you certainly cannot kill it, and if you try to, many more problems will pop up. :P

SCP-1730 is pretty interesting, and I already put it in my reading list for later. I'm impressed by the sheer number of logfiles inside it.
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:00 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Chan Island wrote:093 is a great one, easily in my top 20. SCP Illustrated recently went through the whole series of logs for that one, and they are excellently done as usual.

SCP 1609 is such a good defence for the SCP approach that I really consider it a vital one for someone who wants to understand the mindset and universe. A similar thing with SCP 1730 (which, to be honest, if you're not listening to this while reading the last few entries, you're doing it wrong).

As for raw favourites.... SCP 516 can only make me smile. SCP 423 has the best description of James Joyce's Ulysses I've ever seen. SCP 3930 is simply spooky on a level difficult to point a finger on.

And 682 is such a troll I don't think we even need to elaborate on it :p .


682 is like a computer bug; you certainly cannot kill it, and if you try to, many more problems will pop up. :P

SCP-1730 is pretty interesting, and I already put it in my reading list for later. I'm impressed by the sheer number of logfiles inside it.


You see, the thing with most SCPs is that the log files don't really add anything for me. I get it, the thing is scary/weird/mind-boggling. But SCP-1730's log files are simply amazing and tell a great story.

SPOILER ALERT

It's absolutely awesome. The first ones are extremely effective in creating that spooky atmosphere. Just reading as multiple teams just get lost in horrific, but sufficiently mysterious ways as to justify sending just one more expedition in is chilling.

But then when the message of survivors comes in it just turns to awesome. Seeing Tau-5 and the survivors of the expeditions just decide 'f*** everybody, we are leaving!' and absolutely wreck up shop is about the most inspiring story the MTF has. The sheer variety of what the hell abominations they encounter and then just decide to shoot them is hilarious, and I love the guy who just casually loses his legs but still, for who knows what reason, can still walk. On the air. As in, you can move your hands through the air between the stumps and yet he is still standing.

It's why I think the song Avenged Sevenfold by Shepherd of Fire is so perfect.


In summary, I hope you enjoy it. :p
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Postby Wentera » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:22 pm

I find SCP-3000 to be one of my favorites. Did they ever try to kill 682 with it?
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Postby Drawkland » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:32 pm

I'm not gonna lie, most of the joke SCPs are actually my favorite. The way they twist the general format into humor is just so entertaining for me.

As far as my favorite SCPs, I gotta go with the book-related ones, like SCP-423, 826, or 1230. None of them are really dangerous, but I like the possibilities that those SCPs present.

423 is an entity who enters books and inserts themself as a background character named "Fred," they have no physical form and by inserting themself into the story, they are able to read it.
826 are the dragon bookends which, if you put a book in between them within a room and leave the room, next time you enter the room, it's in the opening setting of the book, wherever it is. The book and bookends are contained within each scene, so you need to be able to find the book before the "story" ends or else you'll be trapped there forever.
Then 1230 is a book where when you open it, it just has "A hero is born" written on the first page, and next time you go to sleep you'll live out an adventure story in your dream. Interesting stuff for sure.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:14 pm

I really wished that we didn't have to discuss this, but let's keep it to the website itself and talk a little about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-UBfkU ... e=youtu.be

Basically, there is some... fluff with overly-sensitive people going on, with something as far as Mods-as-weapons that apparently happened on the website. As much as I love the SCP, and the LGBT community, this feels kinda booish. It wouldn't be that big of a problem... except that the Mod team is in on it, i.e. "Ban anyone that they don't like." What happened? SCP-7143-J was too offensive, I guess.

And might I remind them that the SCPs are neutral? Take 173 or 682, two of the most well-known pieces. Doesn't matter if you're gay or what, they snap your neck or eat you alive!

I would just like to re-instate that I am all for the LGBT community and everything else. More power to them. But this mass-banning is unacceptable.

So some pointers without going off-topic:

- How do you think the website will be run now? I will say that it will get worse. Regardless of political opinion, it's bad when their Mods ban you just because you looked at them wrong, or because you use a wrong word.

- Vandalism to the old SCPs? I really hope not, but with many of them in higher places, it could happen. Keyword being "could".

EDIT: AFAIK the hostile meltdown (not takeover, sorry) seemed to happen shy of an hour ago. It was only being talked about now.
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Postby Wentera » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:07 am

Valentine Z wrote:I really wished that we didn't have to discuss this, but let's keep it to the website itself and talk a little about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-UBfkU ... e=youtu.be

Basically, there is some... fluff with overly-sensitive people going on, with something as far as Mods-as-weapons that apparently happened on the website. As much as I love the SCP, and the LGBT community, this feels kinda booish. It wouldn't be that big of a problem... except that the Mod team is in on it, i.e. "Ban anyone that they don't like." What happened? SCP-7143-J was too offensive, I guess.

And might I remind them that the SCPs are neutral? Take 173 or 682, two of the most well-known pieces. Doesn't matter if you're gay or what, they snap your neck or eat you alive!

I would just like to reinstate that I am all for the LGBT community and everything else. More power to them. But this mass-banning is unacceptable.

So some pointers without going off-topic:

- How do you think the website will be run now? I will say that it will get worse. Regardless of political opinion, it's bad when their Mods ban you just because you looked at them wrong, or because you use a wrong word.

- Vandalism to the old SCPs? I really hope not, but with many of them in higher places, it could happen. Keyword being "could".

EDIT: AFAIK the hostile takeover seemed to happen shy of an hour ago. It was only being talked about now.


Wait, the doorknob? Pardon me if I can't read between the lines on this, but how and to who is that SCP offensive?
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:11 am

Wentera wrote:Wait, the doorknob? Pardon me if I can't read between the lines on this, but how and to who is that SCP offensive?


Yep, the sensual doorknob. I don't even know how, to be honest.

Though, if you go to the comments section, apparently quite a few have been offended by that. The offended comments were earlier, but the takeover meltdown seemed to happen today, like a few hours back. (It was not a takeover, sorry. More of a Mod meltdown.)

From what I have read, someone was complaining about the LGBT logo (for Gay Pride day) being crap, some took offense at that while others explained cooly that "Relax, it's just for a few days,"... and the Admins/Mods went wayyyyy too overboard with their power. Again, I might be wrong at some points, because I kind of skimmed through what's happening.

EDIT: In effect, it was less about the LGBT flag or the politics, and more about Mod abuse. People are getting banned left, right, center, all because they had the gall to say "Hmm, I am not sure if I agree to that."
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Valentine Z wrote:
Wentera wrote:Wait, the doorknob? Pardon me if I can't read between the lines on this, but how and to who is that SCP offensive?


Yep, the sensual doorknob. I don't even know how, to be honest.

Though, if you go to the comments section, apparently quite a few have been offended by that. The offended comments were earlier, but the takeover meltdown seemed to happen today, like a few hours back. (It was not a takeover, sorry. More of a Mod meltdown.)

From what I have read, someone was complaining about the LGBT logo (for Gay Pride day) being crap, some took offense at that while others explained cooly that "Relax, it's just for a few days,"... and the Admins/Mods went wayyyyy too overboard with their power. Again, I might be wrong at some points, because I kind of skimmed through what's happening.

EDIT: In effect, it was less about the LGBT flag or the politics, and more about Mod abuse. People are getting banned left, right, center, all because they had the gall to say "Hmm, I am not sure if I agree to that."


You were talking about vandalism of SCP's earlier, what kind of vandalism do you think would happen?
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Postby Alazonti » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:16 pm

SCP-1730.

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Postby Arkeyana » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:26 pm

Personal favorites:
1678-Unlondon
2399-Malfunctioning Destroyer
j-666 -1/2, simply because I can't read it without keeping a straight face (link)
and 963-Dr. Bright, because of the long list of increasingly ridiculous things that he is not allowed to do that implies that at some point all of the things listed have been attempted in the past.

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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:47 pm

Wentera wrote:
You were talking about vandalism of SCP's earlier, what kind of vandalism do you think would happen?


I might be speculating too hard right now, but I am thinking that they will change the older SCPs, or whatever that they feel are too offensive, specifically the joke SCPs. It's not even about the doorknob anymore, but more of "Ahh, I think this is to scary, or too triggering me. EDIT!"
I certainly don't want SCP-012 to be re-edited on the grounds of "traumatising for suicide/self-harm victims", given its nature.

And I know even the admins need the author's permission to edit, but then again... it can happen. Let's hope not though.




Oh yes, SCP-666-J was fantastic! Reminds me of SpongeBob, except that this man apparently got the license to drive, so... goodness help us. :P

SCP-000-J is also great. I want to see more of it, like other items described in this manner.
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Postby Arkeyana » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:23 am

Valentine Z wrote:Oh yes, SCP-666½-J was fantastic! Reminds me of SpongeBob, except that this man apparently got the license to drive, so... goodness help us. :P

SCP-000-J is also great. I want to see more of it, like other items described in this manner.



I think you got your SCPs mixed up, j-666 is the bad driver, the one I mentioned is a food that I quote: "triggers five stages of localized K-class scenarios within the subject's digestive system"

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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:31 am

Well, from what I've seen, 169 and 2399 are pretty cool, although kind of ridiculous.

Geez, imagine playing Secret Laboratory and then you see this enormous Loch Ness Monster come out of the ocean, or some enormous alien spacecraft fire a beam of doom from orbit.

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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:27 am

Arkeyana wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Oh yes, SCP-666½-J was fantastic! Reminds me of SpongeBob, except that this man apparently got the license to drive, so... goodness help us. :P

SCP-000-J is also great. I want to see more of it, like other items described in this manner.



I think you got your SCPs mixed up, j-666 is the bad driver, the one I mentioned is a food that I quote: "triggers five stages of localized K-class scenarios within the subject's digestive system"


Ah yeah, my bad, haha! Yep, 666.5-J is a delight to read as well! Wow, that's one spicy mushroom.
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There is no SCP entry for NationStates: I wonder what such an entry would look like? :roll:
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The Biggles Syndicate wrote:Well, from what I've seen, 169 and 2399 are pretty cool, although kind of ridiculous.

Geez, imagine playing Secret Laboratory and then you see this enormous Loch Ness Monster come out of the ocean, or some enormous alien spacecraft fire a beam of doom from orbit.


I'm pretty sure that 169 is described as Arthropoid, so it would look more like a giant Lobster or Crab.

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Postby Chan Island » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:46 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
I really wished that we didn't have to discuss this, but let's keep it to the website itself and talk a little about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-UBfkU ... e=youtu.be

Basically, there is some... fluff with overly-sensitive people going on, with something as far as Mods-as-weapons that apparently happened on the website. As much as I love the SCP, and the LGBT community, this feels kinda booish. It wouldn't be that big of a problem... except that the Mod team is in on it, i.e. "Ban anyone that they don't like." What happened? SCP-7143-J was too offensive, I guess.

And might I remind them that the SCPs are neutral? Take 173 or 682, two of the most well-known pieces. Doesn't matter if you're gay or what, they snap your neck or eat you alive!

I would just like to re-instate that I am all for the LGBT community and everything else. More power to them. But this mass-banning is unacceptable.

So some pointers without going off-topic:

- How do you think the website will be run now? I will say that it will get worse. Regardless of political opinion, it's bad when their Mods ban you just because you looked at them wrong, or because you use a wrong word.

- Vandalism to the old SCPs? I really hope not, but with many of them in higher places, it could happen. Keyword being "could".

EDIT: AFAIK the hostile meltdown (not takeover, sorry) seemed to happen shy of an hour ago. It was only being talked about now.


The whole thing seems a bit overblown and overreacting. Oooh, scary, the mods decided to change the logo for a special occasion, and 2 SCPs were controversial, oooooh. It's a storm in a teacup and the SCP wiki has been through worse. Mind you, the banning of users just for having different tastes on logos is not a good path to take.

We better hope that they don't touch the old classics. SCP 237 is supposed to be traumatising, and is the most high profile potentially triggering one of the lot, so if any are going to be vandalised, I'd watch that one.

Minoa wrote:There is no SCP entry for NationStates: I wonder what such an entry would look like? :roll:


Maybe like this?

Arkeyana wrote:Personal favorites:
1678-Unlondon
2399-Malfunctioning Destroyer
j-666 -1/2, simply because I can't read it without keeping a straight face (link)
and 963-Dr. Bright, because of the long list of increasingly ridiculous things that he is not allowed to do that implies that at some point all of the things listed have been attempted in the past.


Unlondon! How could I have forgotten that one! That one is one of my favourites.

All of those are really good choices. The malfunctioning destroyer is terrifying, J-666-1/2 is the pinnacle of absurdity (it killed 682, after all) and Dr Bright doesn't even need an introduction.
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:21 pm

Minoa wrote:There is no SCP entry for NationStates: I wonder what such an entry would look like? :roll:


I completely made that entry up, in the style of the Foundation. :P

Chan Island wrote:The whole thing seems a bit overblown and overreacting. Oooh, scary, the mods decided to change the logo for a special occasion, and 2 SCPs were controversial, oooooh. It's a storm in a teacup and the SCP wiki has been through worse. Mind you, the banning of users just for having different tastes on logos is not a good path to take.

We better hope that they don't touch the old classics. SCP 237 is supposed to be traumatising, and is the most high profile potentially triggering one of the lot, so if any are going to be vandalised, I'd watch that one.


Yeah, I have to admit, I also overreacted to that. I mean, I was expecting the worst of the worst to happen. It's not about the logo change, it's about what would happen if the Mods went crazy (your underlined quote).

Also SCP-231, which I am afraid they will change. Then again, it's just implied, and one story actually explained that
The entry was made to be horrible, but actually, Operation Montauk is just reading an innocent story to the poor soul. http://www.scp-wiki.net/fear-alone


Off-topic: While I love to use "storm in a teacup", I would go with "tempest in a tincan." :P
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Postby Minoa » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:25 am

Chan Island wrote:
Minoa wrote:There is no SCP entry for NationStates: I wonder what such an entry would look like? :roll:


Maybe like this?

Close, but SCP-1761 seems to be about a single nation than a community of hundreds. :unsure:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:26 am

SPC-999 is best

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Postby Wentera » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:13 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:SPC-999 is best

Wrong. 3000 is. ;)
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Postby Razarija » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:12 am

Minoa wrote:There is no SCP entry for NationStates: I wonder what such an entry would look like? :roll:

Conceptually utterly disgusting, gets mass downvoted and deleted 3 minutes after submission.




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Postby Gogol Transcendancy » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:47 am

Razarija wrote:
Minoa wrote:There is no SCP entry for NationStates: I wonder what such an entry would look like? :roll:

Conceptually utterly disgusting, gets mass downvoted and deleted 3 minutes after submission.




Who's your favourite skip author? For me, Metaphysician comes to mind, their entries combine thoughtfulness and interesting premises with effective execution.

djkaktus has written a lot of my personal faves, like 1730, 2399, 3000, The Broken God, 3740 and everything dado.


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