Battlefield 5...Thoughts?

[Baltenstein]

I'd rather not have the "and then the ebul baddy-waddies do da ebulist thing and then you join the good guys." cliche. Some people just wanna play as the other side all the way through, and enjoy being the bad guy without having a big moral lesson.

I'd be all for a German/Italian/Japanese story, if it just involved playing a soldier of said country throughout the entire war. Same with being a French or British, or Soviet, soldier all throughout.

Besides, you can have a cool story without it being a preachy moral lesson or political. Modern Warfare was pretty great, and so was Bad Company and Bad Company 2. Gears of War was a great franchise, and it didn't beat players over the head with morality, even if the world and backstory for the COG and Pendulum Wars were grimdark.

Fascist Italian campaign could be a good step then, not so controversial and could have some good action, fighting in North Africa.

Somehow I would have a hard time buying a SP campaign where you, as an Italian, gun down hundreds of Brits or Greeks...when Italian forces performed so infamously poorly at most fronts they were involved.

EDIT: With that being said, I really would like to see some war theatres that have not been realized in FPS format yet...like the aforementioned Albanian Front of 1940 (Italians vs Greeks), the Winter War (Finns vs Soviets), Khalkyn Gol (Japanese vs Soviets), Fall of France (Germans vs French) etc, rather than the umpteenth rendition of D-Day and Stalingrad.

[Baltenstein]

After watching everything again I feel like my opinion got more negative. It looks less like a WW2 game and more like diversity fest 2018 with WW2 weapons and vehicles thrown in.

Tis a shame really because I was hoping for something good after BF1.

The use of I think a rocket was also quite silly.

I was also rather confused about that steampunk biker dude who did that creepy serial killer "shush, shush" gesture with his hand. I thought that he was one of your squadmates who had started to act weird all of a sudden. Only when amputee Boudicca bashed his skull in did I realize that he was - apparently - a German soldier.

[DPR of Arstotzka]

The use of I think a rocket was also quite silly.

But the thing is, the Germans did use rockets in WW2. That was a V1.

[NeuPolska]

The use of I think a rocket was also quite silly.

But the thing is, the Germans did use rockets in WW2. That was a V1.

They didn’t use them like that lol

[DPR of Arstotzka]

But the thing is, the Germans did use rockets in WW2. That was a V1.

They didn’t use them like that lol

I believe the V1s were used against infantry. V2s were used for long ranged targets such as France or England.

[NeuPolska]

They didn’t use them like that lol

I believe the V1s were used against infantry. V2s were used for long ranged targets such as France or England.

They were just early cruise missiles, also used against Britain. France had fallen way before then as well. You don’t ever use missiles against infantry. There’s literally zero point. It’s a massive waste of funds and munitions.

[DPR of Arstotzka]

I believe the V1s were used against infantry. V2s were used for long ranged targets such as France or England.

They were just early cruise missiles, also used against Britain. France had fallen way before then as well. You don’t ever use missiles against infantry. There’s literally zero point. It’s a massive waste of funds and munitions.

good point polskie

[Torrocca]

The use of I think a rocket was also quite silly.

I was also rather confused about that steampunk biker dude who did that creepy serial killer "shush, shush" gesture with his hand. I thought that he was one of your squadmates who had started to act weird all of a sudden. Only when amputee Boudicca bashed his skull in did I realize that he was - apparently - a German soldier.

Apparently he's a Fallschrimjager, because of the model of goggles on his helmetless head and the oversaturated camo pattern to his uniform.

Although they probably wouldn't have been sporting such goofy goatees.

They didn’t use them like that lol

I believe the V1s were used against infantry. V2s were used for long ranged targets such as France or England.

Ewww, no. That's just bad history right there. Both were used against cities and the like in places like England.

[Torrocca]

[Baltenstein]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWVtV59mczkNew trailer is online.

The Single Player campaign will apparently feature

a lesbian lovestory,

something which I'm sure will be met with cool-headed and unanimous approval by the gaming community.

[NeuPolska]

I’m about to astral project my body to a different universe

[Washington Resistance Army]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWVtV59mczkNew trailer is online.

The Single Player campaign will apparently feature

a lesbian lovestory,

something which I'm sure will be met with cool-headed and unanimous approval by the gaming community.

This has to be a meme lol

[Alanis Star]

It's not about the women (I know there were women in some fronts, but not all), it's not about the potential inaccuracies (it's a game), it's not about being unrealistic (game's mechanism will have to give you freedom to be unrealistic at times)... The one thing I fear is...

Loot-boxes.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

They should stop making these every year.

[Chan Island]

From what I hear about features, it sounds awesome. The Norwegian front is one that could use a few games set in it.

Though the lady with the prosthetic, the katana and the war paint... eh. I think there really is one simple way they could save that one: mercenaries. Say it's an alt-history WW2 where both the UK and the German government were forced to hire a mercenary company to help fight the war. That way you could have absolutely unlimited customisation of your character (something I think tragically few games in the FPS genre do) and all of that silly stuff would be justified.

It's not about the women (I know there were women in some fronts, but not all), it's not about the potential inaccuracies (it's a game), it's not about being unrealistic (game's mechanism will have to give you freedom to be unrealistic at times)... The one thing I fear is...

Loot-boxes.

They actually made a big point of promising no loot boxes.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

From what I hear about features, it sounds awesome. The Norwegian front is one that could use a few games set in it.

Though the lady with the prosthetic, the katana and the war paint... eh. I think there really is one simple way they could save that one: mercenaries. Say it's an alt-history WW2 where both the UK and the German government were forced to hire a mercenary company to help fight the war. That way you could have absolutely unlimited customisation of your character (something I think tragically few games in the FPS genre do) and all of that silly stuff would be justified.

Firstly, people are already complaining about historical inaccuracy. You think alternate history will fix that?

Second, literally nothing wrong with multiplayer customization being unrealistic.

[Chan Island]

From what I hear about features, it sounds awesome. The Norwegian front is one that could use a few games set in it.

Though the lady with the prosthetic, the katana and the war paint... eh. I think there really is one simple way they could save that one: mercenaries. Say it's an alt-history WW2 where both the UK and the German government were forced to hire a mercenary company to help fight the war. That way you could have absolutely unlimited customisation of your character (something I think tragically few games in the FPS genre do) and all of that silly stuff would be justified.

Firstly, people are already complaining about historical inaccuracy. You think alternate history will fix that?

Second, literally nothing wrong with multiplayer customization being unrealistic.

I think if you explicitly market your game as alt-history, instead of what Dice have actually done in talking at length about being historically accurate, would in fact go a long way to making people complain less. Like how people don't complain much about historical accuracy in Wolfenstein.

I completely agree. If you have full customisation, than I'm damn sure to create the most flamboyantly gay-looking, jewish, pink-haired character possible to take out some Nazis with. (Purely for the lols ) I was just thinking about ways in which to get other people onboard.

EDIT: Oh, and my Nazi character better have some Hugo Boss or why bother?

[Rostavykhan]

Really, if DICE/EA had just went with the "Yeah it's WWII, but we're not shooting for accuracy" angle or just said "We no chicks and robot arms aren't realistic, but we just wanted to do it for multiplayer" instead of pulling the "Gamers are Sexist and Racist" card, then the whole reveal fiasco wouldn't have been as bad as it was.

Anyways, for the multiplayer gameplay, customization looks dumb. That said, gameplay additions like being able to hitch up and tow artillery and AA looks cool as well. Also, THEY FINALLY HAVE DECENT DESTRUCTION PHYSICS AGAIN, THANK GOD. Bad Co 2 and BF3 had way better destruction than BF4 and BF1, and it baffled the hell out of me. These physics look nice.

Now...it's WWII...I'm looking forward to my Type-100 gunfu.

[Korasta]

"Surely it can't be worse than Battlefield 1"

"Yes, yes it can. And is."

Seriously though, I get that in multiplayer you don't really have to give a toss about realism and the like (in these sort of games, looking at you COD), but jesus Christ don't label yourself as "historically accurate" then have Robocop in the trailer.

[Baltenstein]

Firstly, people are already complaining about historical inaccuracy. You think alternate history will fix that?

Second, literally nothing wrong with multiplayer customization being unrealistic.

I think if you explicitly market your game as alt-history, instead of what Dice have actually done in talking at length about being historically accurate, would in fact go a long way to making people complain less. Like how people don't complain much about historical accuracy in Wolfenstein.

Amusingly, "Wolfenstein: The Old Blood" also featured a lesbian love story...and it was done rather well, actually.

[Grenartia]

When I first saw the trailer I thought "wow, that's unusual. A post-apocalyptic Mad Max-esque setting? They even got the lady with the badass arm prosthesis and the barbarian war paint and everything". It took me about 2 minutes into the trailer, when the Messerschmidts flying at an altitude of three meters above ground or so showed up, to realize that this is supposed to be set in WW2.
The close range V1s were just the icing on the cake.

Same, but also, the fast-moving Churchills, and the fact that it looks like 1944, and you can still apparently shoot down a 109 with an MG34. Also, I'm really irritated by the Social Injustice Warriors getting pissed off that they put a woman in there. Like, of all the shit to criticize that trailer for, they picked the most realistic thing?

[Baltenstein]

When I first saw the trailer I thought "wow, that's unusual. A post-apocalyptic Mad Max-esque setting? They even got the lady with the badass arm prosthesis and the barbarian war paint and everything". It took me about 2 minutes into the trailer, when the Messerschmidts flying at an altitude of three meters above ground or so showed up, to realize that this is supposed to be set in WW2.
The close range V1s were just the icing on the cake.

Same, but also, the fast-moving Churchills, and the fact that it looks like 1944, and you can still apparently shoot down a 109 with an MG34. Also, I'm really irritated by the Social Injustice Warriors getting pissed off that they put a woman in there. Like, of all the shit to criticize that trailer for, they picked the most realistic thing?

Well, if the 109 is flying at an altitude of 3 meters like in the trailer, you probably can.

A woman on the frontlines of WW2 is not that unrealistic. Her looking like Dieselpunk Boudicca, on the other hand...

[Grenartia]

Same, but also, the fast-moving Churchills, and the fact that it looks like 1944, and you can still apparently shoot down a 109 with an MG34. Also, I'm really irritated by the Social Injustice Warriors getting pissed off that they put a woman in there. Like, of all the shit to criticize that trailer for, they picked the most realistic thing?

1. Well, if the 109 is flying at an altitude of 3 meters like in the trailer, you probably can.

2. A woman on the frontlines of WW2 is not that unrealistic. Her looking like Dieselpunk Boudicca, on the other hand...

1. Not in 44. Fritz had already started replacing his 7.92 mm MGs in fighters with larger artillery (like the MG 131), by 1940, because it was apparent that it was becoming increasingly less effective against armor. To say nothing of a person actually tracking the plane at that close of a range.

2. True.

[Democratic Empire of Romania]

When I first saw the trailer I thought "wow, that's unusual. A post-apocalyptic Mad Max-esque setting? They even got the lady with the badass arm prosthesis and the barbarian war paint and everything". It took me about 2 minutes into the trailer, when the Messerschmidts flying at an altitude of three meters above ground or so showed up, to realize that this is supposed to be set in WW2.
The close range V1s were just the icing on the cake.

I literally agree with this.

In addition, this game is an attempt to attract people from Fortnite, which I have never play personally but, like the new COD, this will either be successful or backfire, especially if game types like Fortnite die out.

Well..DICE said B5 will be Fortnite-ish....