Star Wars: The Force Shall Free Us All

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Amazing. Though I am still annoyed on how

Rey managed to beat Palpy. Like Rey was so absurdly OP it was not even funny.

She had all the Jedi with her and it was a fantastic fight.

There was a fight? They stared at one another intensely, Rey killed Palpatine (like Palpatine said would help him), after the Jedi apparently whispered something in her ear in the vein of 'don't give up'. It had no emotional load whatsoever.

[Saiwania]

There is a real life "what if" that didn't happen. George Lucas after the final film of original trilogy, almost sold Star Wars to Fox. In our timeline, Disney bought Fox. But if the deal happened to where Fox got Star Wars earlier on, do people think Disney wouldn't have been able to buy Fox as it did? Would we have seen lots of better Star Wars material compared to what we got?

Disney allegedly cancelled the Clone Wars series in 2014 because it was "too graphic/too violent" than what Disney was used to at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KriscBzZ40s

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

There is a real life "what if" that didn't happen. George Lucas after the final film of original trilogy, almost sold Star Wars to Fox. In our timeline, Disney bought Fox. But if the deal happened to where Fox got Star Wars earlier on, do people think Disney wouldn't have been able to buy Fox as it did? Would we have seen lots of better Star Wars material compared to what we got?

Disney allegedly cancelled the Clone Wars series in 2014 because it was "too graphic/too violent" than what Disney was used to at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KriscBzZ40s

Fox having Star Wars would just mean that Disney would have been willing to pay more to own it. Without having to negotiate with George Lucas. In the 80's and 90's, Lucas did not have the capital and the negotiation position he had when Disney acquired the rights to Disney.

In any case, the Prequel Trilogy would have been different, perhaps made earlier, with Lucas having less of a say than he would later have.

[Andsed]

Amazing. Though I am still annoyed on how

Rey managed to beat Palpy. Like Rey was so absurdly OP it was not even funny.

She had all the Jedi with her and it was a fantastic fight.

The whole ¨having all the Jedi with her¨ means nothing though. All we saw them do was give her a pep talk. And the ¨fight¨ can not even be classified as one. Palptine shot lighting at Rey who simply blocked it and sent it at Palptine while he stood there taking it. Palptine should have fucking annihilated Rey. He took down three Jedi masters in seconds, fought off Yoda, beat Darth Maul. and fucking disabled an entire fleet and he can´t take on one former scrapper with like a year of training at most?! Bullshit.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Should have brought back snoke, would have been so much more straightforward and easier lol

Like you could use the same method you brought back palpatine for him and it would have been fine.

Go down Snoke being the master of some dark sith sorcery shenanigans, simples

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Should have brought back snoke, would have been so much more straightforward and easier lol

Like you could use the same method you brought back palpatine for him and it would have been fine.

Go down Snoke being the master of some dark sith sorcery shenanigans, simples

Or, alternatively: Snoke looks like someone who would relish in designs that unfold after his death. He could be an enemy from beyond the grave, not by being alive, but by a series of cleverly implemented reveals and explosions that bring the universe closer to the Dark Side, especially aimed to kill Kylo Ren.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

She had all the Jedi with her and it was a fantastic fight.

The whole ¨having all the Jedi with her¨ means nothing though. All we saw them do was give her a pep talk. And the ¨fight¨ can not even be classified as one. Palptine shot lighting at Rey who simply blocked it and sent it at Palptine while he stood there taking it. Palptine should have fucking annihilated Rey. He took down three Jedi masters in seconds, fought off Yoda, beat Darth Maul. and fucking disabled an entire fleet and he can´t take on one former scrapper with like a year of training at most?! Bullshit.

It did tho, Palptine had that super lighting beacuse of all the sith that where in him, Ray was able to block him with all the Jedi in her

[Andsed]

The whole ¨having all the Jedi with her¨ means nothing though. All we saw them do was give her a pep talk. And the ¨fight¨ can not even be classified as one. Palptine shot lighting at Rey who simply blocked it and sent it at Palptine while he stood there taking it. Palptine should have fucking annihilated Rey. He took down three Jedi masters in seconds, fought off Yoda, beat Darth Maul. and fucking disabled an entire fleet and he can´t take on one former scrapper with like a year of training at most?! Bullshit.

It did tho, Palptine had that super lighting beacuse of all the sith that where in him, Ray was able to block him with all the Jedi in her

...That is a load of horseshit. Where the fuck where these Jedi before. Where they just sitting around with their thumbs of their asses during Order 66? There is no justification for Rey managing to beat Palptine. If Yoda could not do it then Rey sure as hell can´t.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It did tho, Palptine had that super lighting beacuse of all the sith that where in him, Ray was able to block him with all the Jedi in her

...That is a load of horseshit. Where the fuck where these Jedi before. Where they just sitting around with their thumbs of their asses during Order 66? There is no justification for Rey managing to beat Palptine. If Yoda could not do it then Rey sure as hell can´t.

They where kinda busy dying during 66. They saw that this was Ray's last chance so they joined with her and killed Palptine together.

[Alvecia]

...by doing the same thing Mace did, but with another lightsaber?

Mace was a fully trained (and one of the most skilled and powerful in the order at the time)Jedi Master with decades of training and experience compared to Rey, the scrapper who has like a year of training at the most. Beside Palpatine could have done a lot more than just shoot lightning at Rey.

In fairness tho it's literally just hold up lightsaber and push.

If you got extra lightning, grab yo'self another lightsaber and the bois and push harder

[Andsed]

...That is a load of horseshit. Where the fuck where these Jedi before. Where they just sitting around with their thumbs of their asses during Order 66? There is no justification for Rey managing to beat Palptine. If Yoda could not do it then Rey sure as hell can´t.

They where kinda busy dying during 66. They saw that this was Ray's last chance so they joined with her and killed Palptine together.

The Jedi had been around for thousands of years and there had been hundreds of thousands of Jedi. Why would those Jedi not do anything. And also the idea of force ghost somehow empowering living force users has never been established in cannon (as far as I am aware.)

Mace was a fully trained (and one of the most skilled and powerful in the order at the time)Jedi Master with decades of training and experience compared to Rey, the scrapper who has like a year of training at the most. Beside Palpatine could have done a lot more than just shoot lightning at Rey.

In fairness tho it's literally just hold up lightsaber and push.

If you got extra lightning, grab yo'self another lightsaber and the bois and push harder

Not really. Again this is mother fucking Palpatine were talking about. Dudes lighting was strong enough to disable an entire fleet. That is not something should be able to just block without being a highly trained force users(which Rey is not.) But even if one was somehow able to block it there is no reason Palpatine could not just fucking throw Rey into that pit like he did with Ben or just you know take the lightsabers(which is possible when the power gap between two force users is so fucking large. See Yodas ¨fight¨ with Ventress in the Clone Wars)

[Idzequitch]

...That is a load of horseshit. Where the fuck where these Jedi before. Where they just sitting around with their thumbs of their asses during Order 66? There is no justification for Rey managing to beat Palptine. If Yoda could not do it then Rey sure as hell can´t.

They where kinda busy dying during 66. They saw that this was Ray's last chance so they joined with her and killed Palptine together.

Um... I'm pretty sure that was more of a symbolic thing. Rey does have the force, which could connect her to other Jedi (and obviously did) but it doesn't make any sense that the Jedi voices that she heard actually contributed to the battle in any tangible way. If it was possible, why didn't Obi-Wan and Yoda give Luke a boost in his own battle with Palpatine? This scene, for better or worse, was the culmination of everything the Jedi did over the past several decades, but at the end of the day, they're dead. Rey was the one there, and Rey defeated Palpatine effectively alone.

They where kinda busy dying during 66. They saw that this was Ray's last chance so they joined with her and killed Palptine together.

The Jedi had been around for thousands of years and there had been hundreds of thousands of Jedi. Why would those Jedi not do anything. And also the idea of force ghost somehow empowering living force users has never been established in cannon (as far as I am aware.)

In fairness tho it's literally just hold up lightsaber and push.

If you got extra lightning, grab yo'self another lightsaber and the bois and push harder

Not really. Again this is mother fucking Palpatine were talking about. Dudes lighting was strong enough to disable an entire fleet. That is not something should be able to just block without being a highly trained force users(which Rey is not.) But even if one was somehow able to block it there is no reason Palpatine could not just fucking throw Rey into that pit like he did with Ben or just you know take the lightsabers(which is possible when the power gap between two force users is so fucking large. See Yodas ¨fight¨ with Ventress in the Clone Wars)

Okay let me interrupt your ranting for a second. Look, I agree, OP characters are no fun, especially when there's not a satisfactory explanation for why they're so powerful. But there is such a thing as natural talent. It exists in most activities. For instance, when my brother first picked up a guitar, within weeks he could outplay my friend who had been learning for several years. Or to use a Star Wars example, Anakin was driving a flipping podracer using the Force to aid his reflexes without even a proper understanding of what the Force was, much less proper training. Or why did Obi-Wan defeat Darth Maul when the guy who did most of Obi-Wan's training fell to Maul only moments before? By the logic you're using, that should have been impossible.

All that to say, I'm laying off the "Rey is stupid OP" criticism. I still don't love Rey as a character, but I don't see her victory over Palpatine as egregiously unrealistic. There's more to fights than just training, though obviously it's nearly always more beneficial to be fully trained than not. There are many facets of a fight to take into effect. It's not as simple as the more experienced fighter always winning. Sometimes the underdog manages to find the strength within themselves to win. That's how it is and that's as it should be.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

They where kinda busy dying during 66. They saw that this was Ray's last chance so they joined with her and killed Palptine together.

Um... I'm pretty sure that was more of a symbolic thing. Rey does have the force, which could connect her to other Jedi (and obviously did) but it doesn't make any sense that the Jedi voices that she heard actually contributed to the battle in any tangible way. If it was possible, why didn't Obi-Wan and Yoda give Luke a boost in his own battle with Palpatine? This scene, for better or worse, was the culmination of everything the Jedi did over the past several decades, but at the end of the day, they're dead. Rey was the one there, and Rey defeated Palpatine effectively alone.

The Jedi had been around for thousands of years and there had been hundreds of thousands of Jedi. Why would those Jedi not do anything. And also the idea of force ghost somehow empowering living force users has never been established in cannon (as far as I am aware.)

Not really. Again this is mother fucking Palpatine were talking about. Dudes lighting was strong enough to disable an entire fleet. That is not something should be able to just block without being a highly trained force users(which Rey is not.) But even if one was somehow able to block it there is no reason Palpatine could not just fucking throw Rey into that pit like he did with Ben or just you know take the lightsabers(which is possible when the power gap between two force users is so fucking large. See Yodas ¨fight¨ with Ventress in the Clone Wars)

Okay let me interrupt your ranting for a second. Look, I agree, OP characters are no fun, especially when there's not a satisfactory explanation for why they're so powerful. But there is such a thing as natural talent. It exists in most activities. For instance, when my brother first picked up a guitar, within weeks he could outplay my friend who had been learning for several years. Or to use a Star Wars example, Anakin was driving a flipping podracer using the Force to aid his reflexes without even a proper understanding of what the Force was, much less proper training. Or why did Obi-Wan defeat Darth Maul when the guy who did most of Obi-Wan's training fell to Maul only moments before? By the logic you're using, that should have been impossible.

All that to say, I'm laying off the "Rey is stupid OP" criticism. I still don't love Rey as a character, but I don't see her victory over Palpatine as egregiously unrealistic. There's more to fights than just training, though obviously it's nearly always more beneficial to be fully trained than not. There are many facets of a fight to take into effect. It's not as simple as the more experienced fighter always winning. Sometimes the underdog manages to find the strength within themselves to win. That's how it is and that's as it should be.

Ray's and Palpatine's fight was more deadly with Ray barely hanging on at the end.

Also hey Idzequitch! Long time no see? How you doing? I hope you enjoyed ROS as much as me.

[HC Eredivisie]

They where kinda busy dying during 66. They saw that this was Ray's last chance so they joined with her and killed Palptine together.

Um... I'm pretty sure that was more of a symbolic thing. Rey does have the force, which could connect her to other Jedi (and obviously did) but it doesn't make any sense that the Jedi voices that she heard actually contributed to the battle in any tangible way. If it was possible, why didn't Obi-Wan and Yoda give Luke a boost in his own battle with Palpatine? This scene, for better or worse, was the culmination of everything the Jedi did over the past several decades, but at the end of the day, they're dead. Rey was the one there, and Rey defeated Palpatine effectively alone.

The Jedi had been around for thousands of years and there had been hundreds of thousands of Jedi. Why would those Jedi not do anything. And also the idea of force ghost somehow empowering living force users has never been established in cannon (as far as I am aware.)

Not really. Again this is mother fucking Palpatine were talking about. Dudes lighting was strong enough to disable an entire fleet. That is not something should be able to just block without being a highly trained force users(which Rey is not.) But even if one was somehow able to block it there is no reason Palpatine could not just fucking throw Rey into that pit like he did with Ben or just you know take the lightsabers(which is possible when the power gap between two force users is so fucking large. See Yodas ¨fight¨ with Ventress in the Clone Wars)

Okay let me interrupt your ranting for a second. Look, I agree, OP characters are no fun, especially when there's not a satisfactory explanation for why they're so powerful. But there is such a thing as natural talent. It exists in most activities. For instance, when my brother first picked up a guitar, within weeks he could outplay my friend who had been learning for several years. Or to use a Star Wars example, Anakin was driving a flipping podracer using the Force to aid his reflexes without even a proper understanding of what the Force was, much less proper training. Or why did Obi-Wan defeat Darth Maul when the guy who did most of Obi-Wan's training fell to Maul only moments before? By the logic you're using, that should have been impossible.

All that to say, I'm laying off the "Rey is stupid OP" criticism. I still don't love Rey as a character, but I don't see her victory over Palpatine as egregiously unrealistic. There's more to fights than just training, though obviously it's nearly always more beneficial to be fully trained than not. There are many facets of a fight to take into effect. It's not as simple as the more experienced fighter always winning. Sometimes the underdog manages to find the strength within themselves to win. That's how it is and that's as it should be.

If she used Yoda's lightning redirection technique it would've been overpowered, now it's not much more skills then holding a light sabre in front of you. And why didn't Palpatine just stop shooting lightning if it was killing him, was he waiting for Anakin to step in again?

Should have brought back snoke, would have been so much more straightforward and easier lol

Like you could use the same method you brought back palpatine for him and it would have been fine.

Go down Snoke being the master of some dark sith sorcery shenanigans, simples

Shut up and take this Oscar.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Should have brought back snoke, would have been so much more straightforward and easier lol

Like you could use the same method you brought back palpatine for him and it would have been fine.

Go down Snoke being the master of some dark sith sorcery shenanigans, simples

“I am all the Snokes.”

[Stiltball]

came across this -which some of you might be interested in signing

https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disne ... ons_browse

[Maichuko]

The new Clone Wars trailer looked really good. I can't wait to see the clone troopers go toe to toe with Mandalorians.

[Ameriganastan]

The new Clone Wars trailer looked really good. I can't wait to see the clone troopers go toe to toe with Mandalorians.

That's basically Mandalorians VS Mandalorians when you think on it.

[Pax Nerdvana]

The new Clone Wars trailer looked really good. I can't wait to see the clone troopers go toe to toe with Mandalorians.

That's basically Mandalorians VS Mandalorians when you think on it.

That's true. The Clones are cloned from Jango's DNA, making them Mandalorians.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

That's basically Mandalorians VS Mandalorians when you think on it.

That's true. The Clones are cloned from Jango's DNA, making them Mandalorians.

Well, no, because being born of a Mandalorian does not make you a Mandalorian. It is a way of life, not an ethnicity. Their DNA comes from the planet Mandalore, but that all that there is.

[Pax Nerdvana]

That's true. The Clones are cloned from Jango's DNA, making them Mandalorians.

Well, no, because being born of a Mandalorian does not make you a Mandalorian. It is a way of life, not an ethnicity. Their DNA comes from the planet Mandalore, but that all that there is.

That's true. I forgot about that aspect of the Mandolorians.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Speaking of, I hope the entire fandom is onboard with disregarding the "Jango isn't a mandalorian" shit that TCW peddled.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Speaking of, I hope the entire fandom is onboard with disregarding the "Jango isn't a mandalorian" shit that TCW peddled.

They did Jango dirty.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Should have brought back snoke, would have been so much more straightforward and easier lol

Like you could use the same method you brought back palpatine for him and it would have been fine.

Go down Snoke being the master of some dark sith sorcery shenanigans, simples

“I am all the Snokes.”

Oooh my dog!

Watched Clone wars 2008, was really good.

[The Huskar Social Union]

That trailer was sooo good, really looking forward to it. Shame its only going to be one season.