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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:55 am
by Pax Nerdvana
Just watched the trailer for Squadrons. It looks great, and I'm getting serious Wing Commander and X-Wing vibes. I really hope EA doesn't screw this up.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:55 pm
by Impaled Nazarene
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Just watched the trailer for Squadrons. It looks great, and I'm getting serious Wing Commander and X-Wing vibes. I really hope EA doesn't screw this up.

EA is involved so,

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:00 pm
by Andsed
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Just watched the trailer for Squadrons. It looks great, and I'm getting serious Wing Commander and X-Wing vibes. I really hope EA doesn't screw this up.

According to this:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-06-20-star-wars-squadrons-doesnt-have-microtransactions-isnt-a-live-service-game#:~:text=Star%20Wars%3A%20Squadrons%20does%20not,service%20game%2C%20EA%20has%20said.&text=Speaking%20to%20Game%20Informer%2C%20Motive,great%20in%20its%20own%20right%22. there will be no microtransaction fuckery and the game will be a complete game upon launch. So it does seem like EA has not fucked this over, though it will probably not hurt to be a bit skeptical as it is EA.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:39 pm
by Pythaga
I really really hope that all the initial reports will turn out to be true, but I don’t put it past EA to muck around and screw everything up at the last minute. The success of Fallen Order does give me more hope though.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:45 pm
by Storica
Duel of the fates it absolutely the best dual and I will argue it until I get tired and go for a nap

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:52 am
by Pax Nerdvana
I hope these intial reports are true, but I'm gonna take 'em with a grain of salt, because EA.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:40 am
by Andsed
I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:42 am
by Aureumterra
Andsed wrote:I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

Disney wanted plot convenience

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:58 am
by Alvecia
Andsed wrote:I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

I looked it up. From what I gather, he didn't leave it for people to follow so much as scattered it so they couldn't.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:06 am
by Fedel
Alvecia wrote:
Andsed wrote:I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

I looked it up. From what I gather, he didn't leave it for people to follow so much as scattered it so they couldn't.


Why not just take it with him...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:07 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Andsed wrote:I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

He didnt leave a map it was a map to the first jedi temple which he followed, others could follow it as well. The FO found most of the map in imperial archives somewhere but Lor San Tekka had the last piece in TFA and R2 also had a piece which is why he was in low power mode.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:13 am
by Andsed
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Andsed wrote:I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

He didnt leave a map it was a map to the first jedi temple which he followed, others could follow it as well. The FO found most of the map in imperial archives somewhere but Lor San Tekka had the last piece in TFA and RD also had a piece which is why he was in low power mode.

Oh. Alright. Yeah that makes a bit more sense.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:14 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Andsed wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:He didnt leave a map it was a map to the first jedi temple which he followed, others could follow it as well. The FO found most of the map in imperial archives somewhere but Lor San Tekka had the last piece in TFA and RD also had a piece which is why he was in low power mode.

Oh. Alright. Yeah that makes a bit more sense.

Kylo ren mentions it in TFA some point i believe that they found most of the map themselves, i think its when he is interrogating Rey.

I think in some of the original drafts it was Luke who left it himself but then in later drafts they changed it to one he found iirc

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:25 am
by The first Galactic Republic
Andsed wrote:I just realized something. Luke in TLJ claimed he traveled to Achto to get away from the galaxy and die there. Yet in TFA he seemingly left a map to his location. Does anyone have an answer on why someone who was trying to get away from the galaxy forever would leave a map to his location so people could find him?

Does the movie outright say Luke made the map?

If he did, it’s probable he made it when he still believed in his Jedi Order since Ahch-To was an important Jedi world in the past. He probably wanted to study it or set up a temple there.

So the map to Ahch-To would already be around when he gave up on everything. Maybe he’s the reason it was fragmented.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:32 pm
by Ovesa
I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I figured this was the best forum to share it in.

Why are so many people (IRL) convinced that Dooku is a violent humanocentrist? It quite literally goes against everything his character is. He's diplomatic, a man of honor and reason, a former Jedi, and he's effectively the leader of the Separatists, a group whose leaders are almost entirely made up of sentient non-humans. Obviously, Dooku was far from perfect, but he genuinely believed that he was doing the right thing by leaving the Jedi Order, and leading a movement to help countless systems escape Republic control. So why are so many writers and fans convinced that he's a violent humanocentrist who wanted to create what was essentially the Imperium of Man?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:44 pm
by Northern Davincia
Ovesa wrote:I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I figured this was the best forum to share it in.

Why are so many people (IRL) convinced that Dooku is a violent humanocentrist? It quite literally goes against everything his character is. He's diplomatic, a man of honor and reason, a former Jedi, and he's effectively the leader of the Separatists, a group whose leaders are almost entirely made up of sentient non-humans. Obviously, Dooku was far from perfect, but he genuinely believed that he was doing the right thing by leaving the Jedi Order, and leading a movement to help countless systems escape Republic control. So why are so many writers and fans convinced that he's a violent humanocentrist who wanted to create what was essentially the Imperium of Man?

Dooku's portrayal in the Revenge of the Sith novelization makes him seem to be anthropocentric, with the end goal of restoring the old Sith Empire (which was very racist).

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:54 pm
by Ovesa
Northern Davincia wrote:

Dooku's portrayal in the Revenge of the Sith novelization makes him seem to be anthropocentric, with the end goal of restoring the old Sith Empire (which was very racist).[/quote]
That's a fair point. I haven't gotten to reading that novelization yet, but I heard that it's really well written.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:03 pm
by Northern Davincia
Ovesa wrote:That's a fair point. I haven't gotten to reading that novelization yet, but I heard that it's really well written.

It is, but Dooku is not done justice by the book. The rest is fantastic.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:16 pm
by Ovesa
Northern Davincia wrote:It is, but Dooku is not done justice by the book. The rest is fantastic.

To be fair, when is Dooku ever done justice by the writers? Man, I can't wait for the libraries in my area to open up again. Can't wait to check it out :)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:24 pm
by Northern Davincia
Ovesa wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:It is, but Dooku is not done justice by the book. The rest is fantastic.

To be fair, when is Dooku ever done justice by the writers? Man, I can't wait for the libraries in my area to open up again. Can't wait to check it out :)

I heard the latest book to star him is good, although I cannot confirm it myself.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:53 pm
by Fedel
Ovesa wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:It is, but Dooku is not done justice by the book. The rest is fantastic.

To be fair, when is Dooku ever done justice by the writers? Man, I can't wait for the libraries in my area to open up again. Can't wait to check it out :)


In the novel "Yoda: Dark Rendezvous."

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:57 pm
by Idzequitch
Ovesa wrote:I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I figured this was the best forum to share it in.

Why are so many people (IRL) convinced that Dooku is a violent humanocentrist? It quite literally goes against everything his character is. He's diplomatic, a man of honor and reason, a former Jedi, and he's effectively the leader of the Separatists, a group whose leaders are almost entirely made up of sentient non-humans. Obviously, Dooku was far from perfect, but he genuinely believed that he was doing the right thing by leaving the Jedi Order, and leading a movement to help countless systems escape Republic control. So why are so many writers and fans convinced that he's a violent humanocentrist who wanted to create what was essentially the Imperium of Man?

It's an established belief here (for the most part) that if the Separatists hadn't been made so cartoonishly evil for the purposes of the movies, there would actually be a pretty solid case to be made that they were justified in their goals, and maybe even the outright good guys.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:03 pm
by Andsed
Idzequitch wrote:
Ovesa wrote:I've been thinking about this for a while now, and I figured this was the best forum to share it in.

Why are so many people (IRL) convinced that Dooku is a violent humanocentrist? It quite literally goes against everything his character is. He's diplomatic, a man of honor and reason, a former Jedi, and he's effectively the leader of the Separatists, a group whose leaders are almost entirely made up of sentient non-humans. Obviously, Dooku was far from perfect, but he genuinely believed that he was doing the right thing by leaving the Jedi Order, and leading a movement to help countless systems escape Republic control. So why are so many writers and fans convinced that he's a violent humanocentrist who wanted to create what was essentially the Imperium of Man?

It's an established belief here (for the most part) that if the Separatists hadn't been made so cartoonishly evil for the purposes of the movies, there would actually be a pretty solid case to be made that they were justified in their goals, and maybe even the outright good guys.

The Separatists definitely had good reason to want to leave the Republic. If it were not for the brilliant evil cunt known as Palpatine manipulating and using them their cause would be a pretty good one. Palpatine just ruins everything doesn't he?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:04 pm
by Idzequitch
Andsed wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:It's an established belief here (for the most part) that if the Separatists hadn't been made so cartoonishly evil for the purposes of the movies, there would actually be a pretty solid case to be made that they were justified in their goals, and maybe even the outright good guys.

The Separatists definitely had good reason to want to leave the Republic. If it were not for the brilliant evil cunt known as Palpatine manipulating and using them their cause would be a pretty good one. Palpatine just ruins everything doesn't he?

Especially RoS. (Sorry. Couldn't resist the cheap shot :P )

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:06 pm
by Andsed
Idzequitch wrote:
Andsed wrote:The Separatists definitely had good reason to want to leave the Republic. If it were not for the brilliant evil cunt known as Palpatine manipulating and using them their cause would be a pretty good one. Palpatine just ruins everything doesn't he?

Especially RoS. (Sorry. Couldn't resist the cheap shot :P )

I mean, your not wrong.