Star Wars: The Force Shall Free Us All

[Dentali]

God damn separatist droids are shit.

Really depends on the droid, doesn't it? The "food soldier" equivalents are indeed shit. They're designed to be mass produced cannon fodder that shoot straight and swarm enemies.

shoot straight lol

[Ism]

Yeah but still, its astounding how utterly bad they are lol

Fight scene in the latest clone wars episode and i was like god damn they fucking suck lol

Oh yeah the inaccuracy of the shots in the Clone Wars is kinda weird. Like for the droids I get that their not in anyway sharpshooters and probably have really shitty weapons but why are the clones so bad? They trained years for this and are some of the best solders in the galaxy yet they cannot hit shit.

That's actually more accurate than not, most shots fired in any given battle will not hit the intended target. Especially if suppressing fire is used, since that's not even meant to hit anyone.

[The first Galactic Republic]

God damn separatist droids are shit.

Not in Battlefront they’re not.

[Ism]

God damn separatist droids are shit.

Not in Battlefront they’re not.

Watch Those Wrist Rockets!

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

God damn separatist droids are shit.

Not in Battlefront they’re not.

You sound like a Seperatist bot.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Not in Battlefront they’re not.

You sound like a Seperatist bot.

It’s just funny to me that the droids are individually equal to the Clone Troopers in Battlefront, especially in co-op where four B1 battle droids can potentially hold off swarms of Clones fighting alongside three Jedi and Chewbacca. All with their silly B1 voices.

[Aeritai]

You sound like a Seperatist bot.

It’s just funny to me that the droids are individually equal to the Clone Troopers in Battlefront, especially in co-op where four B1 battle droids can potentially hold off swarms of Clones fighting alongside three Jedi and Chewbacca. All with their silly B1 voices.

Bots are over-powered in co-op mode no matter what side your on XD well except if your playing as the Empire than co-op is easy to fight bots.

[Impaled Nazarene]

It’s just funny to me that the droids are individually equal to the Clone Troopers in Battlefront, especially in co-op where four B1 battle droids can potentially hold off swarms of Clones fighting alongside three Jedi and Chewbacca. All with their silly B1 voices.

Bots are over-powered in co-op mode no matter what side your on XD well except if your playing as the Empire than co-op is easy to fight bots.

Angry memories of 20 rebels surrounding my corpse and shooting it with their pistols

[Vassenor]

So the novelisation has cleared up exactly how Palpy came back.

Turns out he was a clone in true Dark Empire fashion.

[Impaled Nazarene]

So the novelisation has cleared up exactly how Palpy came back.

Turns out he was a clone in true Dark Empire fashion.

Shrug. It's not like it changes anything.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

So the novelisation has cleared up exactly how Palpy came back.

Turns out he was a clone in true Dark Empire fashion.

It's not in the movie, so it does not count. Which is good for them, because it sucks hard.

[Alvecia]

So the novelisation has cleared up exactly how Palpy came back.

Turns out he was a clone in true Dark Empire fashion.

It's not in the movie, so it does not count. Which is good for them, because it sucks hard.

Trickle down canon is how I've always seen it.

Movies > TV shows > novelisations

Everything in the books is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the TV shows or movies.
Everything in the Tv shows is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the movies.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I mean, Rise of Skywalker is already a theatrical version of Dark Empire. A little extra silliness doesn’t change much.

[Idzequitch]

It's not in the movie, so it does not count. Which is good for them, because it sucks hard.

Trickle down canon is how I've always seen it.

Movies > TV shows > novelisations

Everything in the books is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the TV shows or movies.
Everything in the Tv shows is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the movies.

But there are a good portion of fans who don't really care what the official explanation is if they didn't see it on screen. That's not to contradict your point about what's canon, but rather just what people will actually accept personally.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Trickle down canon is how I've always seen it.

Movies > TV shows > novelisations

Everything in the books is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the TV shows or movies.
Everything in the Tv shows is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the movies.

But there are a good portion of fans who don't really care what the official explanation is if they didn't see it on screen. That's not to contradict your point about what's canon, but rather just what people will actually accept personally.

And, while it might be canon or not, a movie’s plot holes and other bad elements cannot be retroactively fixed by a book. Actually get pretty mad when some flaw gets explained in some visual guide, because that does not make the movies better, and it’s an extremely lazy and cynical way to try and do that anyway.

[Alvecia]

Trickle down canon is how I've always seen it.

Movies > TV shows > novelisations

Everything in the books is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the TV shows or movies.
Everything in the Tv shows is canon unless otherwise stated, or contradicted by the movies.

But there are a good portion of fans who don't really care what the official explanation is if they didn't see it on screen. That's not to contradict your point about what's canon, but rather just what people will actually accept personally.

Which is fair. There's likely a huge portion of fans who will never even know about this explaination. This is just my take.

[Andsed]

But there are a good portion of fans who don't really care what the official explanation is if they didn't see it on screen. That's not to contradict your point about what's canon, but rather just what people will actually accept personally.

And, while it might be canon or not, a movie’s plot holes and other bad elements cannot be retroactively fixed by a book. Actually get pretty mad when some flaw gets explained in some visual guide, because that does not make the movies better, and it’s an extremely lazy and cynical way to try and do that anyway.

Pretty much. Novelizations and visual guides should be used to add in extra details the movie did not have time to put in(such as the whole Sith legions things for TRoS) not to fix gaping plot holes(like how Rey was somehow able to pull off a Jedi Mind trick in TFA despite never having any training.)

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rey in my opinion should have been like a raw manifestation of the force. Pure force energy channelling into someone due to the state of force users in the galaxy (2 dark side users, 1 semi light side user and 1 light side user who cut himself off) as a way of trying to bring balance or something. And this could explain her powers and how she just gets more powerful over time and possibly even leads to her going mental or falling to the darkside as a result (Which i think could have worked well with Ren going back to the lightside)

[Andsed]

Rey in my opinion should have been like a raw manifestation of the force. Pure force energy channelling into someone due to the state of force users in the galaxy (2 dark side users, 1 semi light side user and 1 light side user who cut himself off) as a way of trying to bring balance or something. And this could explain her powers and how she just gets more powerful over time and possibly even leads to her going mental or falling to the darkside as a result (Which i think could have worked well with Ren going back to the lightside)

I mean even then I feel like Rey, with very little training pulling off Jedi Mind tricks along with force lighting powerful enough to destroy a transport vessel feels a bit contrived. I mean Anakin was said to be the chosen one and he still needed over a decade of training to start doing anything remotely like that. If Rey was given some more training (like two or three years or so during which the First Order could have taken the galaxy ) then that could be used to explain her fast advancement and then it might work better.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rey in my opinion should have been like a raw manifestation of the force. Pure force energy channelling into someone due to the state of force users in the galaxy (2 dark side users, 1 semi light side user and 1 light side user who cut himself off) as a way of trying to bring balance or something. And this could explain her powers and how she just gets more powerful over time and possibly even leads to her going mental or falling to the darkside as a result (Which i think could have worked well with Ren going back to the lightside)

I mean even then I feel like Rey, with very little training pulling off Jedi Mind tricks along with force lighting powerful enough to destroy a transport vessel feels a bit contrived. I mean Anakin was said to be the chosen one and he still needed over a decade of training to start doing anything remotely like that. If Rey was given some more training (like two or three years or so during which the First Order could have taken the galaxy ) then that could be used to explain her fast advancement and then it might work better.

Definitely should have been time jumps, i will agree.

[New haven america]

Rey in my opinion should've been an actually well thought out character.

Just like half of the other characters and plots in the ST, but JJ was at the helm for most of it so, y'know.

[DeltaSource]

Rey in my opinion should've been an actually well thought out character.

Just like half of the other characters and plots in the ST, but JJ was at the helm for most of it so, y'know.

I agree, I think she had a lot going for her when she was introduced.

[Northern Davincia]

Had I written the sequel trilogy, Rey would have been a youngling in the restored Jedi Order, with her watching a growing rift between the Republic and the Jedi over what role the other should play in the galaxy. Luke would appear to be grabbing more power for himself, as would Leia. It could be an interesting dynamic.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Rey in my opinion should've been an actually well thought out character.

Just like half of the other characters and plots in the ST, but JJ was at the helm for most of it so, y'know.

I agree, I think she had a lot going for her when she was introduced.

They all did. Unfortunately had lots of wastage. Finn i think came out the worst overall as his role in the movies never changed at all, it was just repeating the same things over and over again. I like the Force Awakens a lot and i think JJ did a good job with that one, but wish he didnt come back for Episode 9, i really would have liked to have seen how Trevorrow would have done directing it. Or even just get Rian Johnson again.

[Alvecia]

I agree, I think she had a lot going for her when she was introduced.

They all did. Unfortunately had lots of wastage. Finn i think came out the worst overall as his role in the movies never changed at all, it was just repeating the same things over and over again. I like the Force Awakens a lot and i think JJ did a good job with that one, but wish he didnt come back for Episode 9, i really would have liked to have seen how Trevorrow would have done directing it. Or even just get Rian Johnson again.

Honestly, the more I think about it, they really couldn't have gotten two worse directors to pair together.
JJ's a crowd pleaser, where Rian seems anything but.
Neither of those are bad things, nor are either of them bad directors, but their two methods of story telling just don't mix well.

I would have really enjoyed a full JJ trilogy and/or a full Rian trilogy