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by Dylar » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:59 pm
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:58 pm
by Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:19 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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by Blargoblarg » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:00 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Got back from rise of skywalker
I really enjoyed it! The... well everything was just fun. Way better then TLJ.is there a I am inevitable/I am Iron Man meme but with paluatine and ray yet? I need to see it
by Saiwania » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:48 pm
Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.
by Impaled Nazarene » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:17 pm
Saiwania wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.
At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Andsed » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:39 pm
Saiwania wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.
At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.
There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.
If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.
by North German Realm » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:06 am
Andsed wrote:Saiwania wrote:
At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.
There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.
If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.
Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?
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by Ameriganastan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:14 am
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Saiwania » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:42 am
Andsed wrote:Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?
by Genivaria » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:21 am
Ameriganastan wrote:The level of ego in this thread.
We're all sarcastic nerds. If any of us joined the empire, we'd be the janitors on a dead end outpost in the middle of nowhere and probably get flogged for smarting off to a superior.
by Genivaria » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:22 am
Saiwania wrote:Andsed wrote:Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?
Hell yes, commander of a Star Destroyer is pretty good. I like having a personal fiefdom being granted to me, even if it's only minor in the grand scheme of things.
If I recall correctly, Luke Skywalker initially wanted to become an Imperial Stormtrooper as a means of getting off of Tattooine because living there as a moisture farmer kind of well, sucks. Its a backwater planet that is primarily desert and isn't quite a lush or prominent core world or a world with a ton more economic opportunity like Coruscant.
If you get a means of moving off of a planet like Tattooine via something like an Imperial Academy, you can get a better life than can be had in staying, theoretically speaking.
Certain events in A New Hope however, got Luke Skywalker onto a drastically different path.
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:36 am
Genivaria wrote:Saiwania wrote:
Hell yes, commander of a Star Destroyer is pretty good. I like having a personal fiefdom being granted to me, even if it's only minor in the grand scheme of things.
If I recall correctly, Luke Skywalker initially wanted to become an Imperial Stormtrooper as a means of getting off of Tattooine because living there as a moisture farmer kind of well, sucks. Its a backwater planet that is primarily desert and isn't quite a lush or prominent core world or a world with a ton more economic opportunity like Coruscant.
If you get a means of moving off of a planet like Tattooine via something like an Imperial Academy, you can get a better life than can be had in staying, theoretically speaking.
Certain events in A New Hope however, got Luke Skywalker onto a drastically different path.
By 'certain events' do you mean Imperial Stormtroopers murdering his only family and burning his home?
Yeah who wouldn't want to join the Empire after that?
by Ameriganastan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:53 am
Genivaria wrote:By 'certain events' do you mean Imperial Stormtroopers murdering his only family and burning his home?
Yeah who wouldn't want to join the Empire after that?
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Idzequitch » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:02 am
Saiwania wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.
At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.
There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.
If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.
by Saiwania » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:18 am
Idzequitch wrote:Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.
by Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:42 am
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:22 am
Saiwania wrote:Idzequitch wrote:Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.
It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.
It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.
Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.
by -Palpatine- » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:29 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:You know what would have been helpful against the Yuuzhan Vong? An army of Jedi.
by Andsed » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:54 am
Saiwania wrote:Idzequitch wrote:Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.
It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.
It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.
Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.
by Saiwania » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:09 am
Andsed wrote:Nah. The only winners in the Empire was Palpatine. Everyone else lost. And really your views align with the Empire. A government that is for all intents and purposes nothing less than fucking evil? I mean I know your you Sai but come on.
by The Krogan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:21 am
by DeltaSource » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:49 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Saiwania wrote:
It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.
It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.
Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.
You know what would have been helpful against the Yuuzhan Vong? An army of Jedi.
This shows the moral decrepitude of the Empire. There was no higher goal. There never is in dictatorships. In the end, everything serves the power base of Palpatine.
By the way, it does not really matter whether you think you could do well. In fact, it makes it worse. If you willingly become part of a genocidal regime that enforces the worst of race-based chattel slavery, it just means you lack any moral character. The more you try to convince us that, actually, you would do well, the worse your choice actually gets.
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