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If you could have a legacy upon the Star Wars galaxy, how would you want to be remembered?

As the fearless Jedi Knight, first into the fight against evil
3
4%
As the peacemaking Jedi Master
11
13%
As the shadow that lurks in the dark, influencing the galaxy with subtlety
9
11%
As the Sith Master that reveals themselves and dominates all opposition
18
21%
As the rogue who finds their fortune
2
2%
As the crime boss who lavishes in luxury
1
1%
As the bounty hunter that lives long enough to retire
7
8%
As the veteran soldier who fights for their cause for a lifetime
10
12%
As the daredevil explorer, placing their lives on the line to map the galaxy and reshape its very structure
10
12%
Dude, this galaxy's frickin' crazy, just let me be a normal civilian
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15%
 
Total votes : 84

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Postby Dylar » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:59 pm

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But there's no blazing new ships and shiny new armor, so I'mma have to pass.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:58 pm

Got back from rise of skywalker

I really enjoyed it! The... well everything was just fun. Way better then TLJ.

is there a I am inevitable/I am Iron Man meme but with paluatine and ray yet? I need to see it

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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:

Dooku was the hero we needed.

This is wholly correct.
Dylar wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:

But there's no blazing new ships and shiny new armor, so I'mma have to pass.

But we did dig our metal heels in and dared the Republic to come after us.
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Postby The Biggles Syndicate » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:26 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:

Oh yes and live under a bunch of the galaxy's most evil corporations and Sith Lords. As nice as Dooku is (to diplomats), he couldn't possibly stop all that greed.

The Galactic Republic Senate is ass tier, but hey it's not as bad as the Big Galactic Clanker Corporation Boogaloo if they got the reins.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:55 pm

Is it weird that, other than Han and Leia depending on where you draw the cutoff point, Palpatine was the only sequel character to have any sex?
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Postby Blargoblarg » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:00 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Got back from rise of skywalker

I really enjoyed it! The... well everything was just fun. Way better then TLJ.

is there a I am inevitable/I am Iron Man meme but with paluatine and ray yet? I need to see it

I definitely think it was much better than The Last Jedi too.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:48 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.


At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.

There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.

If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:17 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.


At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.

No, at best you'd be in the Imperial Army where you get to be bantha fodder to the point where 40k PDF look like elite infantry by comparison.
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:39 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.


At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.

There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.

If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.

Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:06 am

Andsed wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.

There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.

If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.

Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?

I mean, are you suggesting he'd actually be able to pass the requirements for commanding a Star Destroyer? He'd probably be one of the people who live on the planets said Star Destroyers oppress.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:14 am

The level of ego in this thread.

We're all sarcastic nerds. If any of us joined the empire, we'd be the janitors on a dead end outpost in the middle of nowhere and probably get flogged for smarting off to a superior.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:42 am

Andsed wrote:Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?


Hell yes, commander of a Star Destroyer is pretty good. I like having a personal fiefdom being granted to me, even if it's only minor in the grand scheme of things.

If I recall correctly, Luke Skywalker initially wanted to become an Imperial Stormtrooper as a means of getting off of Tattooine because living there as a moisture farmer kind of well, sucks. Its a backwater planet that is primarily desert and isn't quite a lush or prominent core world or a world with a ton more economic opportunity like Coruscant.

If you get a means of moving off of a planet like Tattooine via something like an Imperial Academy, you can get a better life than can be had in staying, theoretically speaking.

Certain events in A New Hope however, got Luke Skywalker onto a drastically different path.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:21 am

Ameriganastan wrote:The level of ego in this thread.

We're all sarcastic nerds. If any of us joined the empire, we'd be the janitors on a dead end outpost in the middle of nowhere and probably get flogged for smarting off to a superior.

This^.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:22 am

Saiwania wrote:
Andsed wrote:Sai your chances of becoming a Grand Moth are tiny. Your at best much more likely to become captain of some random Star Destroyer. Is that tiny amount of power really worth supporting a government as evil and despicable as the Galactic Empire?


Hell yes, commander of a Star Destroyer is pretty good. I like having a personal fiefdom being granted to me, even if it's only minor in the grand scheme of things.

If I recall correctly, Luke Skywalker initially wanted to become an Imperial Stormtrooper as a means of getting off of Tattooine because living there as a moisture farmer kind of well, sucks. Its a backwater planet that is primarily desert and isn't quite a lush or prominent core world or a world with a ton more economic opportunity like Coruscant.

If you get a means of moving off of a planet like Tattooine via something like an Imperial Academy, you can get a better life than can be had in staying, theoretically speaking.

Certain events in A New Hope however, got Luke Skywalker onto a drastically different path.

By 'certain events' do you mean Imperial Stormtroopers murdering his only family and burning his home?
Yeah who wouldn't want to join the Empire after that?

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:36 am

Genivaria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Hell yes, commander of a Star Destroyer is pretty good. I like having a personal fiefdom being granted to me, even if it's only minor in the grand scheme of things.

If I recall correctly, Luke Skywalker initially wanted to become an Imperial Stormtrooper as a means of getting off of Tattooine because living there as a moisture farmer kind of well, sucks. Its a backwater planet that is primarily desert and isn't quite a lush or prominent core world or a world with a ton more economic opportunity like Coruscant.

If you get a means of moving off of a planet like Tattooine via something like an Imperial Academy, you can get a better life than can be had in staying, theoretically speaking.

Certain events in A New Hope however, got Luke Skywalker onto a drastically different path.

By 'certain events' do you mean Imperial Stormtroopers murdering his only family and burning his home?
Yeah who wouldn't want to join the Empire after that?



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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:53 am

Genivaria wrote:By 'certain events' do you mean Imperial Stormtroopers murdering his only family and burning his home?
Yeah who wouldn't want to join the Empire after that?

It would be funny if he did though. He runs off to become a Stormtrooper, and Obi-Wan just sits there pissed off that he wasted 16 years on some scorched ballsack of a planet keeping an eye on him.
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:02 am

Saiwania wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:"I want to live in a monarchy despite the fact that I'd be a filthy, illiterate, possibly diseased, and disposable peasant with no rights whatsoever." That's how you meatbags sound when you say things like this.


At best, I'd be a Grand Moff doing important things at Palpatine's side enjoying the Coruscant high life, and at worst- I'd be an Imperial Stormtrooper enforcing order from world to world via military campaigns/police actions which I'd enjoy anyways.

There is just no way I'd become like Maketh Tua or Aresko and Grint. Before it ever got to that point, I'd request a demotion or a reassignment to a different role where I could benefit the Empire more or be less likely to fail my superiors.

If you value obedience and a firm direction, the Galactic Empire is a good deal. It is a fair trade to serve the Empire if the Empire did a lot for you such as providing for an Imperial Academy and so forth, where you live.

Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:18 am

Idzequitch wrote:Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.


It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.

It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.

Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:42 am

Except Luke didn't want to be a Stormtrooper he wanted to be a pilot and jumpship like Biggs did. Hell, Biggs even told Luke that he was going to jumpship after graduation. Also if you recall Luke directly told Ben that he hated the Empire.

This is all in canon too.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:22 am

Saiwania wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.


It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.

It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.

Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.

You know what would have been helpful against the Yuuzhan Vong? An army of Jedi.

This shows the moral decrepitude of the Empire. There was no higher goal. There never is in dictatorships. In the end, everything serves the power base of Palpatine.

By the way, it does not really matter whether you think you could do well. In fact, it makes it worse. If you willingly become part of a genocidal regime that enforces the worst of race-based chattel slavery, it just means you lack any moral character. The more you try to convince us that, actually, you would do well, the worse your choice actually gets.
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Postby -Palpatine- » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:29 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:You know what would have been helpful against the Yuuzhan Vong? An army of Jedi.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:54 am

Saiwania wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Except the Empire isn't the sort of organization that is just gonna let you request a new assignment or take a step back. Once you're in, you're theirs and you do whatever the hell they want, your opinions and wishes be damned.


It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.

It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.

Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.

Nah. The only winners in the Empire was Palptine. Everyone else lost. And really your views align with the Empire. A government that is for all intents and purposes nothing less than fucking evil? I mean I know your you Sai but come on.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:09 am

Andsed wrote:Nah. The only winners in the Empire was Palpatine. Everyone else lost. And really your views align with the Empire. A government that is for all intents and purposes nothing less than fucking evil? I mean I know your you Sai but come on.


The type of Imperial officer I identify most with are the "Low Key" or the "Good Imperial." I'd be either one of those but am more likely to be low key if I'm still the invisible type within that context in terms of behavior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha8fNioLNZs
This video explains well the 6 most common types of people encountered within the Galactic Empire's hierarchy.
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Postby The Krogan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:21 am

Ahhhh yes, I too would love to serve an empire where you're more likely to be killed by your fellow imperials then any rebel.
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Postby DeltaSource » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:49 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It can perhaps be done if there is an opening elsewhere within the Imperial hierarchy/ongoing roles and you're persuasive with decision makers.

It simply isn't true that absolutely no one benefited from the Empire. I contend that its more accurate to say that it had both winners and losers like any system. The Empire aligns with many of my values by default, so I see it as worthwhile to conform to the Imperial system or do good by it, at least until I'm in a no win situation and I have no choice but to defect or go into hiding. I have reason to believe however, that I could have an Imperial career as bright as Tarkin or Thrawn's.

Its aspirational to want to be part of an orderly but very powerful and magnificent military and civil force, reigning over the galaxy. All of the military buildup was worthwhile to be ready for the Yuuzhan Vong.

You know what would have been helpful against the Yuuzhan Vong? An army of Jedi.

This shows the moral decrepitude of the Empire. There was no higher goal. There never is in dictatorships. In the end, everything serves the power base of Palpatine.

By the way, it does not really matter whether you think you could do well. In fact, it makes it worse. If you willingly become part of a genocidal regime that enforces the worst of race-based chattel slavery, it just means you lack any moral character. The more you try to convince us that, actually, you would do well, the worse your choice actually gets.

Pretty sure a single mouse is better at taking care of the Yuuzhan Vong than any amount of Jedi...
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