Star Wars: The Force Shall Free Us All

[Valrifell]

Probably corrupt or sympathisers or something.

Ive not read it myself.

Could also be planted agents who took power in various worlds or something too.

The last one would be believable but I doubt the people in charge of Star Wars put that much thought into it.

IIRC there were people who secretly admired the Empire and joined the New Republic just to hold on to power.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Yeah, when they ruled the entire galaxy for 24 years, plus inheriting all assets from the Republic and having everything they seized from the CIS. The Empire and the FO are in radically different circumstances.

We don't exactly know the circumstances of the FO too well (unless it's expanded in some kinda book, but I can't read), all we know is that they fucked off to an unchartered sector of the galaxy with whatever imperial remnants they had at the time.

They siphoned assets from organisations they had ties to, like KDY or whatever their follow-up was called.

Still doesn't explain how they were able to get so much without raising alarms.

[Valrifell]

We don't exactly know the circumstances of the FO too well (unless it's expanded in some kinda book, but I can't read), all we know is that they fucked off to an unchartered sector of the galaxy with whatever imperial remnants they had at the time.

They siphoned assets from organisations they had ties to, like KDY or whatever their follow-up was called.

Still doesn't explain how they were able to get so much without raising alarms.

The New Republic was incompetent as fuck, apparently.

[Fedel]

The last one would be believable but I doubt the people in charge of Star Wars put that much thought into it.

IIRC there were people who secretly admired the Empire and joined the New Republic just to hold on to power.

You'd think if they were in power and admired the Empire they would have pretty outspoken about their support for the Empire when it was still around. Hell, I'd know I'd be outspoken about my support for the Empire even if I DIDN'T actually support it given what the Empire did to dissidents. That being the case, you think the Republic would watch them closely if they allowed them to stay in power at all. Then again, the New Republic is apparently retarded.

[Fedel]

They siphoned assets from organisations they had ties to, like KDY or whatever their follow-up was called.

Still doesn't explain how they were able to get so much without raising alarms.

The New Republic was incompetent as fuck, apparently.

That we can agree on, lol.

[The Huskar Social Union]

They siphoned assets from organisations they had ties to, like KDY or whatever their follow-up was called.

Still doesn't explain how they were able to get so much without raising alarms.

The New Republic was incompetent as fuck, apparently.

It seemed incredibly autonomous with a very limited fleet that just went with the rotating capital system after a demilitarization treaty.

Not wise like, i understand why, but not wise.

[Valrifell]

The New Republic was incompetent as fuck, apparently.

That we can agree on, lol.

Though it's ineffectiveness is, from what I know from having read literally nothing from the new EU, partly down to the fact that they heavily de-centralized the government as to avoid repeats of the mistakes of old.

[Fedel]

That we can agree on, lol.

Though it's ineffectiveness is, from what I know from having read literally nothing from the new EU, partly down to the fact that they heavily de-centralized the government as to avoid repeats of the mistakes of old.

There's ineffective/slow government and there's incompetence that doesn't make any sense unless the people in charge are retarded or actively sabotaging it tbh.

[Valrifell]

Though it's ineffectiveness is, from what I know from having read literally nothing from the new EU, partly down to the fact that they heavily de-centralized the government as to avoid repeats of the mistakes of old.

There's ineffective/slow government and there's incompetence that doesn't make any sense unless the people in charge are just retarded tbh.

The real life US government had no choice but to let Confederate sympathizers back into government in some places, for reference.

[Vassenor]

... Why?

Probably corrupt or sympathisers or something.

Ive not read it myself.


Could also be planted agents who took power in various worlds or something too.

Pretty sure they're also the ones who revealed the fact that Leia was Vader's daughter to force her out of politics after she started trying to rally support against the FO.

[Fedel]

There's ineffective/slow government and there's incompetence that doesn't make any sense unless the people in charge are just retarded tbh.

The real life US government had no choice but to let Confederate sympathizers back into government in some places, for reference.

There's a difference between a civilization that still mostly used wooden boats for naval wars and an intergalactic civilization with FTL travel capabilities. I.E. the latter government has ways to keep tabs on traitors who are potentially trying to tear the newly formed government down from the inside that the former does not. Not to mention, the traitors in the latter civilization have far more options available to them to try to tear down the government they oppose then the former.

[Alvecia]

The real life US government had no choice but to let Confederate sympathizers back into government in some places, for reference.

There's a difference between a civilization that still mostly used wooden boats for naval wars and an intergalactic civilization with FTL travel capabilities. I.E. the latter government has ways to keep tabs on traitors who are potentially trying to tear the newly formed government down from the inside that the former does not. Not to mention, the traitors in the latter civilization have far more options available to them to try to tear down the government they oppose then the former.

It's not just the odd individuals, it's whole populations. How would they go about excluding the FO sympathisers without being seen as discriminatory. It would have scuppered the New Republic before it could float.

[Fedel]

There's a difference between a civilization that still mostly used wooden boats for naval wars and an intergalactic civilization with FTL travel capabilities. I.E. the latter government has ways to keep tabs on traitors who are potentially trying to tear the newly formed government down from the inside that the former does not. Not to mention, the traitors in the latter civilization have far more options available to them to try to tear down the government they oppose then the former.

It's not just the odd individuals, it's whole populations. How would they go about excluding the FO sympathisers without being seen as discriminatory. It would have scuppered the New Republic before it could float.

They'd go about it by the simple fact that the people who were supporting the Empire and approved its methods were in support of a genocidal totalitarian oppressive regime that treated the majority of the Galaxy as little better then slave labor and blew up entire planets of innocents because they suspected the leaders were working against it ( without actual proof of that being the case I might add ). Pretty sure that's a valid enough reason to give to most of these populations who themselves were living under this oppressive regime.

Keeping tabs on these individuals wouldn't even require that they give any reasoning as they could simply do it in secret as a precaution.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

S3E16:
Wut?

[Valrifell]

S3E16:
Wut?

Is that the Mortis arc? Shits fucked yo. Wrapped in layers of metaphor and symbolism.

Probably among my least favorite arcs of the good seasons.

[The Huskar Social Union]

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

(Image)

This is what is called a "two-dimensional character".

[Ism]

(Image)

I almost didn't recognize him without his red arm.

Also, regarding the NR being stupid, it's important to remember that everyone in the ST is stupid. Not fair to single out the NR, especially given it's limited screen-time.

[Idzequitch]

(Image)

He's now also a giraffe? Or does he double as a Pez dispenser now?

[Pax Nerdvana]

(Image)

That's hilarious, and also a little terrifying. Those eyes.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

S3E17:

"If into the security recordings you go, only pain will you find."

"I must know the truth, master...it can't be. It can't be."

"Can't be? You told me he once tried to unleash a personification of the dark side on the galaxy."

"Oh, yeah, we really shouldn't be surprised by this, should we?"

[The Huskar Social Union]

Forward Soldiers! Your Empire needs you!

[Valrifell]

Forward Soldiers! You're Empire needs you!

Say, what did the New Republic do with all the Stormtroopers that didn't escape with the First Order anyway?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Forward Soldiers! You're Empire needs you!

Say, what did the New Republic do with all the Stormtroopers that didn't escape with the First Order anyway?

I assume most of them probably went and just did other work no doubt, probably after a period of captivity. Same with soldiers from defeated countries on earth.

Others are probably still in service with what other remnants are still around.

[Valrifell]

Say, what did the New Republic do with all the Stormtroopers that didn't escape with the First Order anyway?

I assume most of them probably went and just did other work no doubt, probably after a period of captivity. Same with soldiers from defeated countries on earth.

Others are probably still in service with what other remnants are still around.

I think there's interesting potential with Stormtroopers attempting to integrate into the new status quo, or joining various underground militia groups bent on restoring the Empire.

Either's fine.