The Huskar Social Union wrote:Gimme a fucking trailer already damn you
mood af
honestly I'm nervous for episode 9 but still excited as a SW fan. very nervously excited
just give me Vader and Obi-Wan force ghosts and it will be a good movie.
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by Yusseria » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:36 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Gimme a fucking trailer already damn you
by Bloodshade » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:47 pm
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by Genivaria » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:20 pm
Bloodshade wrote:Apparently, Anakin's force ghost is supposed to appear in Episode 9 but that's just a rumor. Damn, I wanna see Hayden in Star Wars again.
Edit: So far, there are quite a few sites claiming we'll see Anakin/Vader but there's no real evidence of that. That's a shame
by Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:33 pm
Genivaria wrote:Bloodshade wrote:Apparently, Anakin's force ghost is supposed to appear in Episode 9 but that's just a rumor. Damn, I wanna see Hayden in Star Wars again.
Edit: So far, there are quite a few sites claiming we'll see Anakin/Vader but there's no real evidence of that. That's a shame
Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
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by The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:55 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Genivaria wrote:Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
Yeah. I think the whole "Murdering a bunch of children and blowing up a planet" thing should have denied him force ghost status...course I'm not even sure how force ghosts work. Is it like Jedi heaven?
by The 1st Galactic Empire » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:00 pm
by Bloodshade » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:03 pm
Genivaria wrote:Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
Ameriganastan wrote: Yeah. I think the whole "Murdering a bunch of children and blowing up a planet" thing should have denied him force ghost status...course I'm not even sure how force ghosts work. Is it like Jedi heaven?
An interstellar civilization that survived the self-induced destruction of its now long-gone homeworld and is trying to live the good life, all the while avoiding getting its ass kicked around.
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by Yusseria » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:07 pm
Genivaria wrote:Bloodshade wrote:Apparently, Anakin's force ghost is supposed to appear in Episode 9 but that's just a rumor. Damn, I wanna see Hayden in Star Wars again.
Edit: So far, there are quite a few sites claiming we'll see Anakin/Vader but there's no real evidence of that. That's a shame
Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
by Ism » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:11 pm
Genivaria wrote:Bloodshade wrote:Apparently, Anakin's force ghost is supposed to appear in Episode 9 but that's just a rumor. Damn, I wanna see Hayden in Star Wars again.
Edit: So far, there are quite a few sites claiming we'll see Anakin/Vader but there's no real evidence of that. That's a shame
Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
by Genivaria » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:45 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Genivaria wrote:Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
Yeah. I think the whole "Murdering a bunch of children and blowing up a planet" thing should have denied him force ghost status...course I'm not even sure how force ghosts work. Is it like Jedi heaven?
Ism wrote:Genivaria wrote:Honestly I never cared for Anakin becoming one with the force like that, he does ONE good thing for his own son after decades of serving a genocidal and tyrannical empire and suddenly he's redeemed?
Yeah no, I don't buy it.
Now, there is a difference between redemption, which Anakin achieves, and forgiveness, which is much more subjective. He is redeemed because he rejects the Dark Side, but he is not forgiven by the galaxy at large. Leia was forced out of government because she is his daughter, remember, most people just see him as the murderous tyrant. Arguably, Luke is the only one who really forgives him, excepting Padme, Obi-Wan, Yoda and presumably Qui-Gon, who are all dead. I think it would have been great for the ST to have his force ghost trying to fix some of his mistakes as a means of penance, primarily trying to pull Ben out of the Dark Side's grip, refusing to move on, to see Padme again, until he had done so, that would have shown he had earned some measure of forgiveness.
by The 1st Galactic Empire » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:47 am
by Ism » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:12 am
Genivaria wrote:Ameriganastan wrote:Yeah. I think the whole "Murdering a bunch of children and blowing up a planet" thing should have denied him force ghost status...course I'm not even sure how force ghosts work. Is it like Jedi heaven?
Basically I think Vader hadn't yet earned his redemption, but I'd accept his dying act being his first step back to the light.
The force putting him in a sort of 'limbo' until he earns his respect would've been better imo.Ism wrote:
Now, there is a difference between redemption, which Anakin achieves, and forgiveness, which is much more subjective. He is redeemed because he rejects the Dark Side, but he is not forgiven by the galaxy at large. Leia was forced out of government because she is his daughter, remember, most people just see him as the murderous tyrant. Arguably, Luke is the only one who really forgives him, excepting Padme, Obi-Wan, Yoda and presumably Qui-Gon, who are all dead. I think it would have been great for the ST to have his force ghost trying to fix some of his mistakes as a means of penance, primarily trying to pull Ben out of the Dark Side's grip, refusing to move on, to see Padme again, until he had done so, that would have shown he had earned some measure of forgiveness.
It was easy for Luke, he never saw the atrocities that Vader commits.
by The Huskar Social Union » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:21 am
by Alvecia » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:38 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:So can only people who are light side users (or who go back to the light side ala darth vader) be force ghosts? Can dark side users not do it at all? Or do they have their own thing that they can do, because in Clone wars yoda saw a ghost esque thing of a long dead sith lord who talked to him at one point im near certain.
by New haven america » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:56 am
Alvecia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:So can only people who are light side users (or who go back to the light side ala darth vader) be force ghosts? Can dark side users not do it at all? Or do they have their own thing that they can do, because in Clone wars yoda saw a ghost esque thing of a long dead sith lord who talked to him at one point im near certain.
Sith ghosts have been part of the EU for some time now iirc.
Think the Yoda talking to a Sith ghost was actually Darth Bane, but it was preprod footage released from episodes that were never aired before the show was cancelled, so I'm not sure they'd count as "canon".
by Platypus Bureaucracy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:07 am
Fedel wrote:Snip
New haven america wrote:I seems that my argument has fallen upon deaf ears, for the 100th or so time.
New haven america wrote:Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:S3E2:
If you haven't figured it out yet, TCW's an anthology series.
Also, there's a reason for the wonkiness, and that's because they didn't have much funding/money at the start of the series, so they had to make the easier to make episodes first and have the harder to make episode later.
Northern Davincia wrote:Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:I think this is another case of getting distracted by the worldbuilding. Yes, Rey gets stronger in the Force, but she also went through that self-esteem arc I outlined. Unless you mean "stronger" in a more general emotional sense, but that would describe virtually all non-tragic arcs, so you couldn't possibly object to that unless you object to fiction in general.
This is the sort of thing I find so incredibly confusing. Best case scenario, you can't see a critical part of the film. Worst case, you have a wildly unorthodox approach to understanding fiction.
You don't need a tragic arc to have character flaws that initially make a character weak. When I refer to her strength, I am speaking of a quality independent of worldbuilding.
Han Solo is physically adept as a character, but his own arrogance holds him back. It takes time to get over. Tell me, what flaws does Rey have as a person? Emotionally, she's strong from the get-go.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:08 am
Genivaria wrote:Ameriganastan wrote:Yeah. I think the whole "Murdering a bunch of children and blowing up a planet" thing should have denied him force ghost status...course I'm not even sure how force ghosts work. Is it like Jedi heaven?
Basically I think Vader hadn't yet earned his redemption, but I'd accept his dying act being his first step back to the light.
The force putting him in a sort of 'limbo' until he earns his respect would've been better imo.Ism wrote:
Now, there is a difference between redemption, which Anakin achieves, and forgiveness, which is much more subjective. He is redeemed because he rejects the Dark Side, but he is not forgiven by the galaxy at large. Leia was forced out of government because she is his daughter, remember, most people just see him as the murderous tyrant. Arguably, Luke is the only one who really forgives him, excepting Padme, Obi-Wan, Yoda and presumably Qui-Gon, who are all dead. I think it would have been great for the ST to have his force ghost trying to fix some of his mistakes as a means of penance, primarily trying to pull Ben out of the Dark Side's grip, refusing to move on, to see Padme again, until he had done so, that would have shown he had earned some measure of forgiveness.
It was easy for Luke, he never saw the atrocities that Vader commits.
by Platypus Bureaucracy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:11 am
by Alvecia » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:27 am
New haven america wrote:Alvecia wrote:Sith ghosts have been part of the EU for some time now iirc.
Think the Yoda talking to a Sith ghost was actually Darth Bane, but it was preprod footage released from episodes that were never aired before the show was cancelled, so I'm not sure they'd count as "canon".
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Season 6 is most definitely canon, I assure you on that fact.
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