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by The first Galactic Republic » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:12 am
by Fedel » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:12 am
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Fedel wrote:
Did you really write an essay to me because I paraphrased one of your statements?
The reason I formatted it in the way I did was because not long after making the statement about how you thought Rey was a great character you make this comment:
"I was going to explain to y'all what Rey's arc is and snidely dismiss the idea that any of you know jack shit about this stuff. But I've got a better idea:"
Now you're probably going to say that this was in response to the posts that you deemed "low effort criticisms" ( edit: after skimming your post I see that's EXACTLY what you did ) but I posit that you brought it up in the first place KNOWING the kind of responses you'd get in order to start another row on the subject.
I also didn't say Rey was a great character (though obviously I do think she is). I said she was cute, and that TLJ hit its character beats hard. If you don't care to read my posts, why do you keep responding to me? If you don't like me, put me on ignore.
If I'm having to write at length, it's because you're not taking the care to respond to what I'm actually saying, so I'm having to go back and restate stuff I've already said. It's the old issue that it takes ten times as much effort to refute bullshit as to produce it.
by Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:13 am
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:22 am
Fedel wrote:Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:You misrepresented the course of events to suggest that I started this. I didn't. I also didn't say Rey was a great character (though obviously I do think she is). I said she was cute, and that TLJ hit its character beats hard. If you don't care to read my posts, why do you keep responding to me? If you don't like me, put me on ignore.
If I'm having to write at length, it's because you're not taking the care to respond to what I'm actually saying, so I'm having to go back and restate stuff I've already said. It's the old issue that it takes ten times as much effort to refute bullshit as to produce it.
I don't ignore thinks I don't like unfortunately for you. I face them head on in order to curb influences I find malignant. I suspect you don't ignore those you disagree with for the same reason.
Since you're familiar with that concept, you should realize why people in this thread abhor conversing with you.
by Fedel » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:36 am
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Fedel wrote:
I don't ignore thinks I don't like unfortunately for you. I face them head on in order to curb influences I find malignant. I suspect you don't ignore those you disagree with for the same reason.
Since you're familiar with that concept, you should realize why people in this thread abhor conversing with you.
Well, point out my bullshit. You've spent a lot of time attacking me here, but you've been curiously quiet about Rey's arc, which is the point on which I challenged people to demonstrate their understanding. Ism has, for better or worse, attempted to meet that challenge. I've even agreed with him, broadly, on his issues with TFA.
You're very upset about my malignant influence. You get terribly offended when I praise a film. Yet you have no interest in my analysis. You'll forgive me if I conclude that this is because you don't feel able to. It's clearly not for want of time.
by Northern Davincia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:45 am
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Fedel wrote:
Too bad the ST hasn't managed to do that.
See, this is the essence of what I'm talking about. Short, meaningless assertions that it's bad.
None of you want to actually expand on these "points" (except, of course, to talk about worldbuilding and Force powers) and on the rare occasions you do, you talk a bunch of nonsense that showcases the extent of your ignorance and, very often, hypocrisy.
It's like a thread populated entirely by Vassenor clones.
If I try to talk to any of you about Rey's arc--even if I straight up quote the movie--you'll just claim it doesn't exist then pivot away to moan about how she lifted too many rocks or some nonsense. You want to circlejerk about how bad the films are without doing any of the work required to demonstrate that your opinions are informed opinions.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Dylar » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:16 am
St. Albert the Great wrote:"Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena."
Franko Tildon wrote:Fire washes the skin off the bone and the sin off the soul. It cleans away the dirt. And my momma didn't raise herself no dirty boy.
by Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:19 am
by Valrifell » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:36 pm
by Platypus Bureaucracy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:52 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:See, this is the essence of what I'm talking about. Short, meaningless assertions that it's bad.And this:
And this:
And this:
None of you want to actually expand on these "points" (except, of course, to talk about worldbuilding and Force powers) and on the rare occasions you do, you talk a bunch of nonsense that showcases the extent of your ignorance and, very often, hypocrisy.
It's like a thread populated entirely by Vassenor clones.
If I try to talk to any of you about Rey's arc--even if I straight up quote the movie--you'll just claim it doesn't exist then pivot away to moan about how she lifted too many rocks or some nonsense. You want to circlejerk about how bad the films are without doing any of the work required to demonstrate that your opinions are informed opinions.
My biggest issue with Rey is that her personality doesn't change from TFA to TLJ.
Her arc is ultimately "I am strong" to "I am stronger" thus far.
Fedel wrote:Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Well, point out my bullshit. You've spent a lot of time attacking me here, but you've been curiously quiet about Rey's arc, which is the point on which I challenged people to demonstrate their understanding. Ism has, for better or worse, attempted to meet that challenge. I've even agreed with him, broadly, on his issues with TFA.
You're very upset about my malignant influence. You get terribly offended when I praise a film. Yet you have no interest in my analysis. You'll forgive me if I conclude that this is because you don't feel able to. It's clearly not for want of time.
I've already had this debate with you and others countless times in this very thread. I don't see the need to go throug another rendition ( though I will if you insist ).
I don't have any interest in your "analysis" because it's built upon assumptions, fallacies and subjective opinions. I know this because I've engaged with you on this very subject in the past. You can think what you want though.
by Fedel » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:22 pm
by Fedel » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:27 pm
by Pax Nerdvana » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:59 pm
by Uinted Communist of Africa » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:10 pm
by Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:15 pm
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by Alvecia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:30 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Valrifell wrote:
Star Wars is so lost in its own massive amount of worldbuilding that if they've been shown on screen, not only do they have a name but probably at least one EU story.
Let's test this claim. How about...that weird looking guy from ROTJ. Had an eyepatch and a big head. Made a great Robot Chicken sketch.
by Ameriganastan » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:32 pm
Alvecia wrote:Ameriganastan wrote:Let's test this claim. How about...that weird looking guy from ROTJ. Had an eyepatch and a big head. Made a great Robot Chicken sketch.
Orrimaarko
Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.
Krazakistan wrote: He is a force of negativity for the sake of negativity
Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.
Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*
by New haven america » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:38 pm
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
I strongly approve of this method. There's a reason I don't criticise Huskar in this thread, even when he says things I disagree with, and it's not just because I like him. He doesn't try to frame his personal feelings on a film as fact.New haven america wrote:We get it, you like a shitty movie, move on already!
You know, that's not a bad thing, I unironically like Episode III and don't mind Episode I (It's not good, but it's not horrible either), but I still acknowledge that they're pretty bad and have no problem making fun of them while pointing out both the good and bad parts. It's ok to like something that's not good, you don't need to defend TLJ as if it's a beached whale that'll die if it doesn't have praise upon heaped continually.
I'm not the one who started bitching about how bad Rey was.
Note how I didn't frame most of my post around my opinion. I was talking about the arc. The real problem here is people who had a negative emotional reaction to the film deciding that means it must be bad (to the point that those people *ahem!* think they can just assert it's bad because [--insert movie jargon here--] without actually making the argument).
I really didn't enjoy Phantom Thread, but I wouldn't dare to insist that it's a bad movie just because I personally had a bad time watching it. On reflection, in fact, I think it is probably a very good movie, and if I had the willpower to put myself through watching it again, I expect I would probably be able to make a strong argument for that, even though I will probably never like that film.
I quite like parts of Rogue One, even though I think it's very mediocre. But there are films I like that I think are good. TLJ is one of them. Imagine if I told you to just admit that, I don't know, Toy Story is a bad movie. You'd probably think I was mad.
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:41 pm
by New haven america » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:49 pm
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:S3E2:So, this is part three of a trilogy about these clones that goes S3E1-->S1E5-->S3E2.
This is bonkers. Dave Filoni is the guy lots of fans say should be in charge of Lucasfilm's creative direction, right? Are they crazy, or does he get his shit together at some point?
Good episode, at least on the clones' side of things. Bit predictable with 99, though.
The clones are now ARC troopers. Based on my experience with the old battlefront, I understand this means they'll fill one of two possible battlefield roles:
1. Fire their rocket launcher, miss, and then get shot dead during the four-hour long reloading process
2. Fire their rocket launcher, miss, switch to a shitty little pistol and then get shot dead because their enemy has a rifle
RIP Fives and Echo. Taken too soon.
by New haven america » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:49 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Gimme a fucking trailer already damn you
by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:53 pm
"Some cunt on the internet wants the trailer lord Mickey!"
by Northern Davincia » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:10 pm
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:My biggest issue with Rey is that her personality doesn't change from TFA to TLJ.
Her arc is ultimately "I am strong" to "I am stronger" thus far.
I think this is another case of getting distracted by the worldbuilding. Yes, Rey gets stronger in the Force, but she also went through that self-esteem arc I outlined. Unless you mean "stronger" in a more general emotional sense, but that would describe virtually all non-tragic arcs, so you couldn't possibly object to that unless you object to fiction in general.
This is the sort of thing I find so incredibly confusing. Best case scenario, you can't see a critical part of the film. Worst case, you have a wildly unorthodox approach to understanding fiction.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
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