Star Wars: The Force Shall Free Us All

[New haven america]

Say what you want about him, but he managed to successfully bring an old sci-fi classic back into popular mainstream not once (Star Trek) but twice (Star Wars), which is pretty impressive.

Star Wars has never not been popular.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Say what you want about him, but he managed to successfully bring an old sci-fi classic back into popular mainstream not once (Star Trek) but twice (Star Wars), which is pretty impressive.

Star Wars has never not been popular.

I don't know. I hear the Star Wars fandom in 1823 was tiny.

[Ism]

Almost anyone else.

Who, for example?

Well like I said, I'm willing to give Rian a shot as I liked TLJ far more than TFA, but, I don't really have a short list of directors/writers I'd want for this.

[Ism]

Star Wars has never not been popular.

I don't know. I hear the Star Wars fandom in 1823 was tiny.

I'm kicking myself that I only just thought of this.

[Northern Davincia]

Star Wars has never not been popular.

I don't know. I hear the Star Wars fandom in 1823 was tiny.

Nonsense.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I'm seeing Solo soon.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

I don't know. I hear the Star Wars fandom in 1823 was tiny.

Nonsense.

That's fucking amazing.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I'm seeing Solo soon.

Hope you enjoy it

[The Huskar Social Union]

People are fucking shitheads

Its all good not liking a character, but if you go out of your way to be a wanker to the actor/actress you need to fucking grow up.

[Tarsonis]

Who, for example?

Well like I said, I'm willing to give Rian a shot as I liked TLJ far more than TFA, but, I don't really have a short list of directors/writers I'd want for this.

TLJ isn’t as bad as I think people make it, it’s better than say AotC. But reading about all the behind the scenes issues, the politics involved, Rian’s ego, and seeing the finished product, I understand the vitriolic response to it. TLJ was bad, and fans are showing it by not seeing Solo which is easily a much better film.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

People are fucking shitheads

Its all good not liking a character, but if you go out of your way to be a wanker to the actor/actress you need to fucking grow up.

Ugh, I saw that. Sections of the Star Wars fandom are just appallingly toxic these days.

And the top comment below that tweet.

[Ism]

Well like I said, I'm willing to give Rian a shot as I liked TLJ far more than TFA, but, I don't really have a short list of directors/writers I'd want for this.

TLJ isn’t as bad as I think people make it, it’s better than say AotC. But reading about all the behind the scenes issues, the politics involved, Rian’s ego, and seeing the finished product, I understand the vitriolic response to it. TLJ was bad, and fans are showing it by not seeing Solo which is easily a much better film.

Oh I would never say TLJ was good, I posted a critical review of it in this thread I think, but I agree that people blow it way out of proportion. And, funnily enough, AotC is actually my favorite film in the franchise.

People are fucking shitheads

Its all good not liking a character, but if you go out of your way to be a wanker to the actor/actress you need to fucking grow up.

Ugh, I saw that. Sections of the Star Wars fandom are just appallingly toxic these days.

And the top comment below that tweet.

Yeah, there might be some issues with the Rose character, but this is just despicable behavior. Sadly, the Star Wars fandom isn’t even all that unique in this regard.

[Vassenor]

TLJ isn’t as bad as I think people make it, it’s better than say AotC. But reading about all the behind the scenes issues, the politics involved, Rian’s ego, and seeing the finished product, I understand the vitriolic response to it. TLJ was bad, and fans are showing it by not seeing Solo which is easily a much better film.

Oh I would never say TLJ was good, I posted a critical review of it in this thread I think, but I agree that people blow it way out of proportion. And, funnily enough, AotC is actually my favorite film in the franchise.

Ugh, I saw that. Sections of the Star Wars fandom are just appallingly toxic these days.

And the top comment below that tweet.

Yeah, there might be some issues with the Rose character, but this is just despicable behavior. Sadly, the Star Wars fandom isn’t even all that unique in this regard.

It's also not the first time the SW fandom has pulled this shit.

See also driving Daisy Ridley off of social media before and driving Jake Lloyd to a mental breakdown.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Oh I would never say TLJ was good, I posted a critical review of it in this thread I think, but I agree that people blow it way out of proportion. And, funnily enough, AotC is actually my favorite film in the franchise.



Yeah, there might be some issues with the Rose character, but this is just despicable behavior. Sadly, the Star Wars fandom isn’t even all that unique in this regard.

It's also not the first time the SW fandom has pulled this shit.

See also driving Daisy Ridley off of social media before and driving Jake Lloyd to a mental breakdown.

I’ve even seen one dude making horrible social media comments towards the actor who plays the kid at the very end of TLJ. The one who uses the force to pick up a broom.

Nobody remembers what happened to Jake Lloyd it would seem.

[Bralia]

People are fucking shitheads

Its all good not liking a character, but if you go out of your way to be a wanker to the actor/actress you need to fucking grow up.

There's an executive order in the universe that I wish we had in real life for people like them.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

People are fucking shitheads

Its all good not liking a character, but if you go out of your way to be a wanker to the actor/actress you need to fucking grow up.

Thats really bad.

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Solo was fun, like Guardians of the Galaxy but starwars

[Genivaria]

"From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"
-Just got done slaughtering children.

Well everyone has their own subjective morality and point-of-views, you can't just throw away Anakin's opinion even if he's slaughtered a sandpeople village and a room full of younglings!
oi

I actually read a fanfic which made the argument that Anakin being born as a slave fucked his mind up alot compared to the rest of society.
That because he was brought in at a late age he wasn't molded by the Jedi properly and was starved for any approval and friendship.
Enter Palpatine who acted like he was friendly old grandpa.

[Zanera]

Well everyone has their own subjective morality and point-of-views, you can't just throw away Anakin's opinion even if he's slaughtered a sandpeople village and a room full of younglings!
oi

I actually read a fanfic which made the argument that Anakin being born as a slave fucked his mind up alot compared to the rest of society.
That because he was brought in at a late age he wasn't molded by the Jedi properly and was starved for any approval and friendship.
Enter Palpatine who acted like he was friendly old grandpa.

Didn't he have the fantasy when he was young of becoming a Jedi Knight, going back to Tatooine, then freeing his mother and ending slavery?

[Genivaria]

I actually read a fanfic which made the argument that Anakin being born as a slave fucked his mind up alot compared to the rest of society.
That because he was brought in at a late age he wasn't molded by the Jedi properly and was starved for any approval and friendship.
Enter Palpatine who acted like he was friendly old grandpa.

Didn't he have the fantasy when he was young of becoming a Jedi Knight, going back to Tatooine, then freeing his mother and ending slavery?

Yeah he did, and then the Jedi slammed "release all of your attachements" into his head which basically mean't abandoning everyone he cared about including his mother.
Are the Jedi evil? No.
But I can see why they didn't help a young and mentally fragile Anakin Skywalker.

Also something else that is relevant.
How Darth Vader Reacted to Slavery By The Empire
TL;DR? It really fucked him up.

[Zanera]

Didn't he have the fantasy when he was young of becoming a Jedi Knight, going back to Tatooine, then freeing his mother and ending slavery?

Yeah he did, and then the Jedi slammed "release all of your attachements" into his head which basically mean't abandoning everyone he cared about including his mother.
Are the Jedi evil? No.
But I can see why they didn't help a young and mentally fragile Anakin Skywalker.

Also something else that is relevant.
How Darth Vader Reacted to Slavery By The Empire
TL;DR? It really fucked him up.

"I'm going to free my mother that I love deeply (from fucking) slavery!"
"No. Forget your mother. And wipe away that moral crusader shit (even if we all ingrain ourselves in a higher moral code as a part of the organization)."
"..." boils inside of him for years.

[Genivaria]

Personally I think the Empire would've been better if Vader had taken over.
He was strictly meritocratic and would've cared nothing for aristocracy or speciesism, he hated the Death Star and would've used the resources for more ships and soldiers, and would've opposed slavery.
Honestly all the worst aspects of the Empire wouldn't have been reality under Vader.

[Zanera]

Personally I think the Empire would've been better if Vader had taken over.
He was strictly meritocratic and would've cared nothing for aristocracy or speciesism, he hated the Death Star and would've used the resources for more ships and soldiers, and would've opposed slavery.
Honestly all the worst aspects of the Empire wouldn't have been reality under Vader.

"Don't choke on your aspirations."
Maybe ambition was another problem in the Empire. You step all over other people to get to the top in a cutthroat environment not conducive to actually being good at whatever you're supposed to do.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Personally I think the Empire would've been better if Vader had taken over.
He was strictly meritocratic and would've cared nothing for aristocracy or speciesism, he hated the Death Star and would've used the resources for more ships and soldiers, and would've opposed slavery.
Honestly all the worst aspects of the Empire wouldn't have been reality under Vader.

That is a fascinating concept. Vader was still ruthless though, and the galaxy would no doubt be repressed under his rule, but I do believe that he’d make the Empire better both morally and practically.

The only downside is that he may not do as good a job at keeping everyone in line. Palpatine encouraged officers to be conniving and power hungry, knowing that they’d turn on each other before they turned on him and that he was skilled enough with manipulation to keep them from challenging him. Vader is a lot more blunt and straight forward. I can see warlords splintering off and dividing the galaxy into chunks following Vader’s ascension. We’d see a galaxy torn apart by war between the Imperial factions, but Vader’s Empire would probably be pretty stable and secure. Kind of like the Imperial Remnant under Pellaeon, but probably more repressive.

[Genivaria]

Personally I think the Empire would've been better if Vader had taken over.
He was strictly meritocratic and would've cared nothing for aristocracy or speciesism, he hated the Death Star and would've used the resources for more ships and soldiers, and would've opposed slavery.
Honestly all the worst aspects of the Empire wouldn't have been reality under Vader.

That is a fascinating concept. Vader was still ruthless though, and the galaxy would no doubt be repressed under his rule, but I do believe that he’d make the Empire better both morally and practically.

The only downside is that he may not do as good a job at keeping everyone in line. Palpatine encouraged officers to be conniving and power hungry, knowing that they’d turn on each other before they turned on him and that he was skilled enough with manipulation to keep them from challenging him. Vader is a lot more blunt and straight forward. I can see warlords splintering off and dividing the galaxy into chunks following Vader’s ascension. We’d see a galaxy torn apart by war between the Imperial factions, but Vader’s Empire would probably be pretty stable and secure. Kind of like the Imperial Remnant under Pellaeon, but probably more repressive.

It would need one thing to make it stable, Padme.
If she had said yes to his offer on Mustafar she would've been the stabilizing influence that was needed.

[The first Galactic Republic]

That is a fascinating concept. Vader was still ruthless though, and the galaxy would no doubt be repressed under his rule, but I do believe that he’d make the Empire better both morally and practically.

The only downside is that he may not do as good a job at keeping everyone in line. Palpatine encouraged officers to be conniving and power hungry, knowing that they’d turn on each other before they turned on him and that he was skilled enough with manipulation to keep them from challenging him. Vader is a lot more blunt and straight forward. I can see warlords splintering off and dividing the galaxy into chunks following Vader’s ascension. We’d see a galaxy torn apart by war between the Imperial factions, but Vader’s Empire would probably be pretty stable and secure. Kind of like the Imperial Remnant under Pellaeon, but probably more repressive.

It would need one thing to make it stable, Padme.
If she had said yes to his offer on Mustafar she would've been the stabilizing influence that was needed.

Freakin’ panda bear ruined everything.