Star Wars: The Force Shall Free Us All

[Zanera]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

The vast majority are absolute terrorists. Very few rebel scum are respectable in the most debased sense of the word.

[Cosumar]

Finally got a chance to watch the Star Wars Rebels finale. Goddamn I'm gonna miss this show and these characters. Very satisfied with the way they went out.

I can see how the victory on Lothal is what incited the Rebel Alliance to start becoming really organized and united. It was the first sign that the Empire could be defeatable.

I hope we get to see older Ezra and Sabine reunited in future SW content.

[New haven america]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[Northern Davincia]

That brings up a brilliant question was was right the republic or the separatists?

The republic on one hand was a democracy yet the separatists we still democratic in a sense. They also did not allow a religious cult military power and while I have nothing against the Jedi they should not be leading troops. Also the republic was extremely corrupt and allowed corporations representation within the senate.

Personally while I like the republic the separatist were right in a way, the republic became the Empire and many separatist became rebels.

The Separatists. Systems with few resources and little power had no influence in the senate and were run roughshod by huge voting blocs. The Republic was corrupt to the point that it would commit genocide on sentient races on the word of other sentient races that provided more value to them ( Yam'rii vs Kaleesh ).

Many worlds and systems in the CIS joined because they didn't see a better alternative and who can blame them? Unfortunately, by the end, many of them were held hostage by Dooku's thugs and the Confederacy's armies.

Dooku strikes me as the kind of leader that the CIS would need regardless of morals. The Separatist Council was united solely by their disdain for the Republic.

[Bearon Uncensored]

The Separatists. Systems with few resources and little power had no influence in the senate and were run roughshod by huge voting blocs. The Republic was corrupt to the point that it would commit genocide on sentient races on the word of other sentient races that provided more value to them ( Yam'rii vs Kaleesh ).

Many worlds and systems in the CIS joined because they didn't see a better alternative and who can blame them? Unfortunately, by the end, many of them were held hostage by Dooku's thugs and the Confederacy's armies.

Dooku strikes me as the kind of leader that the CIS would need regardless of morals. The Separatist Council was united solely by their disdain for the Republic.

Yeah. Dooku was the linchpin of the CIS which is why Sidious chose him as his apprentice after Maul.

[Bearon Uncensored]

Finally got a chance to watch the Star Wars Rebels finale. Goddamn I'm gonna miss this show and these characters. Very satisfied with the way they went out.

WHAT?! Are you kidding me? It was awful.

[Ascoobis]

I know this has probably already been mentioned, but does anyone else feel that Rebels saving Ahsoka from her supposed fate in "Twilight of the Apprentice" felt pretty forced and even pointless?

I actually felt, when the episode first aired, that it was an epic send-off to an amazing character, but now I have to question what she did in the years after the Battle of Endor, and her place in between the Original and Sequel trilogies.....They kind of left that open-ended and I think they just might relegate her to a minor role just because they can't find a place to fit her in. Trying to milk her as Disney is trying to do to the franchise....

[Arvecnia]

I know this has probably already been mentioned, but does anyone else feel that Rebels saving Ahsoka from her supposed fate in "Twilight of the Apprentice" felt pretty forced and even pointless?

I actually felt, when the episode first aired, that it was an epic send-off to an amazing character, but now I have to question what she did in the years after the Battle of Endor, and her place in between the Original and Sequel trilogies.....They kind of left that open-ended and I think they just might relegate her to a minor role just because they can't find a place to fit her in. Trying to milk her as Disney is trying to do to the franchise....

Yeah I get what you mean, personally she should have just died, it was an epic way to go out. Then again they did it with Maul and that turned out quite well.

[Bearon Uncensored]

I know this has probably already been mentioned, but does anyone else feel that Rebels saving Ahsoka from her supposed fate in "Twilight of the Apprentice" felt pretty forced and even pointless?

I actually felt, when the episode first aired, that it was an epic send-off to an amazing character, but now I have to question what she did in the years after the Battle of Endor, and her place in between the Original and Sequel trilogies.....They kind of left that open-ended and I think they just might relegate her to a minor role just because they can't find a place to fit her in. Trying to milk her as Disney is trying to do to the franchise....

Time travel should never be used in media unless the media is based around it ( Dr. Who ) or has inherent restrictions placed on it. It ruins any sense of risk or tension in a work knowing killed characters can be brought back with the snap of a finger.

[Cosumar]

Finally got a chance to watch the Star Wars Rebels finale. Goddamn I'm gonna miss this show and these characters. Very satisfied with the way they went out.

WHAT?! Are you kidding me? It was awful.

How, exactly? Are you just one of those people that hated Rebels to begin with? To me, it felt like they pulled out all the stops to end it on a really grand note!

And everything got explained well too like where they were during the OT and connecting it in the timeline to Rogue One/ANH. No missing pieces but also left room for future stories. Plus, a few really cool details got canonized.

[Pilarcraft]

Dooku strikes me as the kind of leader that the CIS would need regardless of morals. The Separatist Council was united solely by their disdain for the Republic.

Yeah. Dooku was the linchpin of the CIS which is why Sidious chose him as his apprentice after Maul.

I mean, he became Sidious' apprentice before he became the leader of the CIS. But yeah. Dooku is just the type of charismatic bastard to unite a bunch of greedy corporatists and secessionist planets for a common cause. Is it bad that I wish he hadn't died?

[Ism]

Yeah. Dooku was the linchpin of the CIS which is why Sidious chose him as his apprentice after Maul.

I mean, he became Sidious' apprentice before he became the leader of the CIS. But yeah. Dooku is just the type of charismatic bastard to unite a bunch of greedy corporatists and secessionist planets for a common cause. Is it bad that I wish he hadn't died?

He’s a good villain, I would have liked to see more of him. Though I suppose that’s what TCW was for.

[Impaled Nazarene]

I have to go with healing. If it's anything like the games then I can fix most injuries in seconds.

[Pilarcraft]

I mean, he became Sidious' apprentice before he became the leader of the CIS. But yeah. Dooku is just the type of charismatic bastard to unite a bunch of greedy corporatists and secessionist planets for a common cause. Is it bad that I wish he hadn't died?

He’s a good villain, I would have liked to see more of him. Though I suppose that’s what TCW was for.

Yeah, but I feel like Star Wars just mistreated the poor bastard. if we got One movie and two entire shows for a character that literally had 2 lines in his debut movie, we could've gotten more than what we did for one of the most important characters in the Clone Wars era. still, TCW Dooku was great. Better than Movies! Dooku might I add.

[The Huskar Social Union]

He’s a good villain, I would have liked to see more of him. Though I suppose that’s what TCW was for.

Yeah, but I feel like Star Wars just mistreated the poor bastard. if we got One movie and two entire shows for a character that literally had 2 lines in his debut movie, we could've gotten more than what we did for one of the most important characters in the Clone Wars era. still, TCW Dooku was great. Better than Movies! Dooku might I add.

My mind is drawing a blank here, Who?

[Dylar]

Yeah, but I feel like Star Wars just mistreated the poor bastard. if we got One movie and two entire shows for a character that literally had 2 lines in his debut movie, we could've gotten more than what we did for one of the most important characters in the Clone Wars era. still, TCW Dooku was great. Better than Movies! Dooku might I add.

My mind is drawing a blank here, Who?

Boba Fett, I assume

[Bearon Uncensored]

WHAT?! Are you kidding me? It was awful.

How, exactly? Are you just one of those people that hated Rebels to begin with? To me, it felt like they pulled out all the stops to end it on a really grand note!

And everything got explained well too like where they were during the OT and connecting it in the timeline to Rogue One/ANH. No missing pieces but also left room for future stories. Plus, a few really cool details got canonized.

No, I was super excited about the concept of Rebels when it first came out. That excitement quickly died out as I realized it was a show that took the opportunity to drop oneliners at every opportunity killing the mood of situations that should have been serious. That was just the start though. The fact that the characters were never developed beyond simple archetypes was also wearing as the series went on. Then there was the villain of the week style format they adopted after killing off the best original element of the show in Season 1 ( The Grand Inquisitor ). Problems kept piling up. Some random Force mumbo jumbo introduced out of nowhere never to be seen again in season 3 ( The Bendu ), nearly all of S3 and S4 simply telling us that Thrawn is out there planning and doing stuff but never showing it, plot lines that should have had far more focus played on them shoved to the side ( Ezra being tempted by the Darkside ) and never touched again, making a mockery of Maul by making his last moments of screen time wandering the desert talking and giggling to himself like a mad man before anticlimactically being cut down in a few seconds by Kenobi ( this isn't mentioning the fact that half the Episode was devoted to Ezra and Chopper interactions ), Palpatine trying to charm Ezra after he had attempted to kill him the episode prior, Space Whales ex machina and about a million other issues.

[Bearon Uncensored]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Anybody who thinks Thrawn's death at the hands of Space Whales appearing out of hyperspace is "well explained" is beyond my help.

[Pilarcraft]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Anybody who thinks Thrawn's death at the hands of Space Whales appearing out of hyperspace is "well explained" is beyond my help.

It wasn't well explained. I honestly was kinda expecting something more. Especially with how Bendu went all prophet on him in Season 3.

[Bearon Uncensored]

Yeah. Dooku was the linchpin of the CIS which is why Sidious chose him as his apprentice after Maul.

I mean, he became Sidious' apprentice before he became the leader of the CIS. But yeah. Dooku is just the type of charismatic bastard to unite a bunch of greedy corporatists and secessionist planets for a common cause. Is it bad that I wish he hadn't died?

Sidious and Plagueis had planned out the war decades prior to AotC per the Plagueis novel. Dooku's value as a figurehead was recognized by both of them.

Not at all. Dooku is one of my favorite SW characters ( along with Qui Gon and Grievous ).

[Zanera]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Anybody who thinks Thrawn's death at the hands of Space Whales appearing out of hyperspace is "well explained" is beyond my help.

It wasn't well explained. I honestly was kinda expecting something more. Especially with how Bendu went all prophet on him in Season 3.

"In 1 BBY, Thrawn and his fleet faced the Lothal resistance and the Spectres in their last climactic battle during the liberation of Lothal. While facing Ezra Bridger aboard his Star Destroyer the Chimaera, Thrawn's ship was attacked by purrgils and was dragged to an ambiguous fate into the hyperspace, sending both Bridger and Thrawn to the unknown, freeing Lothal from the Empire's control once and for all. At the end of the Galactic Civil War, Thrawn's knowledge of the Unknown Regions was used in part by the remnants of the Galactic Empire used to travel to the region of space, where the Empire's remnants reorganized into the First Order."

I hope Thrawn comes out of the Unknown Regions and ends the current silliness. I know that will never happen, though. He's probably dead as shit.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Question of the day:
Were the Jedi really all that good?

[Pilarcraft]

Question of the day:
Were the Jedi really all that good?

Not in my opinion, really. But honestly, isn't this question kinda bland?

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Question of the day:
Were the Jedi really all that good?

Not in my opinion, really. But honestly, isn't this question kinda bland?

Well I mean not if you really think into it.

1) they are upholding a corrupt government
2)they live in the freakin lap of luxury while the rest of the galaxy literally dies
3)they can and often due meddle in things that plunge the galaxy into chaos (so many times )
4) They make enemies by being completely uncultured
5) They seek to gain power just like the sith and would kill anything that got in their way.....such as a handful of separatist on distant planet.
#the trade federation did nothing wrong

[Ism]

Question of the day:
Were the Jedi really all that good?

Initially, I’d say yes. But the Order became mired in and bound to politics and as such was influenced negatively. By the end, the Order had become arrogant and overly conservative, unable to adapt to the rapid changes that heralded the end of the Old Republic. And thus, they were easy prey for the Sith. Even then though, the Order was not “evil”, merely lessened, in its power, in its effectiveness and in it’s goodness.