Star Wars: The Force Shall Free Us All

[Bearon Uncensored]

Ah, I see that you are a fellow of culture as well. The IH is streamlined compared to other capital ships, and not needlessly bulky or obtuse.

In some things...

[Northern Davincia]

Ah, I see that you are a fellow of culture as well. The IH is streamlined compared to other capital ships, and not needlessly bulky or obtuse.

Star Destroyers will always have a place in my heart.

Of course you would think so, wouldn't you.

Have to say though, I do like the CIS aesthetics, and the Invisible Hand is no exception. Not sure if it's the "best", but it might be my favorite capital ship. Always loved the shark look the ship had. The Malevolevolence is cool too, but I agree that the Invisible Hand looks better.

To be fair, I remember there being a source that stated the Invisible Hand wiped out entire planetary populations with its firepower.

Sadly Coruscant was not among them.

[Zanera]

In some things...

Imperial Star Destroyers roll up and everyone goes "O shit".

Star Destroyers will always have a place in my heart.

To be fair, I remember there being a source that stated the Invisible Hand wiped out entire planetary populations with its firepower.

Sadly Coruscant was not among them.

Republic popped a sizable fleet into there before Coruscant could be battered.

[Ascoobis]

Like most Star Wars capital ships, the bridge(As well as IH's observation Deck) is far too exposed for my liking, so...Other than that, I guess it's a nice ship. Defintely more of a carrier than a brawler though.

As for the Malevolence .....It was doomed by a lack of escorts. So I'll blame that on Confederate doctrine rather than the ship itself(There hasn't been a full-scale war in the Galaxy in almost a thousand years, so I guess we can forgive them for forgetting and having to relearn the basics of warfare.)

[Arvecnia]

That brings up a brilliant question was was right the republic or the separatists?

The republic on one hand was a democracy yet the separatists we still democratic in a sense. They also did not allow a religious cult military power and while I have nothing against the Jedi they should not be leading troops. Also the republic was extremely corrupt and allowed corporations representation within the senate.

Personally while I like the republic the separatist were right in a way, the republic became the Empire and many separatist became rebels.

[Ism]

That brings up a brilliant question was was right the republic or the separatists?

The republic on one hand was a democracy yet the separatists we still democratic in a sense. They also did not allow a religious cult military power and while I have nothing against the Jedi they should not be leading troops. Also the republic was extremely corrupt and allowed corporations representation within the senate.

Personally while I like the republic the separatist were right in a way, the republic became the Empire and many separatist became rebels.

Both sides were merely pawns in Palpatine's game to wipe out the Jedi and make himself Emperor. Neither side truly held the moral high ground, and both had their flaws and failings, and that was by design.

[Pilarcraft]

That brings up a brilliant question was was right the republic or the separatists?

The republic on one hand was a democracy yet the separatists we still democratic in a sense. They also did not allow a religious cult military power and while I have nothing against the Jedi they should not be leading troops. Also the republic was extremely corrupt and allowed corporations representation within the senate.

Personally while I like the republic the separatist were right in a way, the republic became the Empire and many separatist became rebels.

Both sides were merely pawns in Palpatine's game to wipe out the Jedi and make himself Emperor. Neither side truly held the moral high ground, and both had their flaws and failings, and that was by design.

that doesn't really chnage the question of, disregarding the whole Palpatine being the one behind the strings thing, who was more in the right, though.
Personally, I think the Separatists were the ones in the right.

[Arvecnia]

Both sides were merely pawns in Palpatine's game to wipe out the Jedi and make himself Emperor. Neither side truly held the moral high ground, and both had their flaws and failings, and that was by design.

that doesn't really chnage the question of, disregarding the whole Palpatine being the one behind the strings thing, who was more in the right, though.
Personally, I think the Separatists were the ones in the right.

I kinda agree with you, while yes the separatists did some outright terrible things they simply wanted to be free from the corrupt republic. But in the end both we simply pawns in the Sith's game.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Of course you would think so, wouldn't you.

Have to say though, I do like the CIS aesthetics, and the Invisible Hand is no exception. Not sure if it's the "best", but it might be my favorite capital ship. Always loved the shark look the ship had. The Malevolevolence is cool too, but I agree that the Invisible Hand looks better.

To be fair, I remember there being a source that stated the Invisible Hand wiped out entire planetary populations with its firepower.

The same can be said for Imperial-Class Star Destroyers.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I always liked the Republic ships from KOTOR. Especially the hammerhead cruiser:

Was over the moon when i saw a similar design in Rebels and Rogue one.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

[Pilarcraft]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

a- there's no 'or' in that. Those two aren't mutually exclusive. Some of the Rebel factions (Saw, for example) were terrorists. Some of the other factions were a legitimate military force.

And definitely the New Republic (post Empire). The Galactic Republic was plain ass corrupt, the Empire was a fascistic overstate, and the First Order isn't even a political entity.

[Ism]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

Rebels are definitely on the freedom fighter side of that line. But I’d say the Old Republic was the best government we’ve seen in Star Wars. It certainly lasted the longest, by a great deal of time.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

a- there's no 'or' in that. Those two aren't mutually exclusive. Some of the Rebel factions (Saw, for example) were terrorists. Some of the other factions were a legitimate military force.

And definitely the New Republic (post Empire). The Galactic Republic was plain ass corrupt, the Empire was a fascistic overstate, and the First Order isn't even a political entity.

1)did you change your flag?

2)At what point does war not classify as terrorism?

3) Every government is corrupt only blind(mentally) people think any type of government if non corruptible

[Anywhere Else But Here]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

I don't see any evidence they used terror. The empire did, quite explicitly.

[The Batavia]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

The Rebels are pure terrorist scum

r/EmpireDidNothingWrong

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

I don't see any evidence they used terror. The empire did, quite explicitly.

So all those hit and runs in the middle of busy Imperial markets don't count as terrorism?
What about how they sided with well known criminals to assassinate political leaders?

[Pilarcraft]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

I don't see any evidence they used terror. The empire did, quite explicitly.

a- Saw Garrera. b- Lothal's cell were quite liberal in destroying public property, along with killing civillians and stormtroopers alike.

[Pilarcraft]

a- there's no 'or' in that. Those two aren't mutually exclusive. Some of the Rebel factions (Saw, for example) were terrorists. Some of the other factions were a legitimate military force.

And definitely the New Republic (post Empire). The Galactic Republic was plain ass corrupt, the Empire was a fascistic overstate, and the First Order isn't even a political entity.

1)did you change your flag?

2)At what point does war not classify as terrorism?

3) Every government is corrupt only blind(mentally) people think any type of government if non corruptible

1- Ya. I did. Regime change and stuff. it'll change again in a week. I think.

2- Idk.

3- Yes. Every regime is corrupt at the inherent level. Some regimes are more corrupt. The Galactic Republic was too corrupt.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

I don't see any evidence they used terror. The empire did, quite explicitly.

So all those hit and runs in the middle of busy Imperial markets don't count as terrorism?
What about how they sided with well known criminals to assassinate political leaders?

I'm not at all familiar with the former. The latter...are you talking about Han helping to blow up the death star? That's terrorism in only the most diluted sense of the word.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

So all those hit and runs in the middle of busy Imperial markets don't count as terrorism?
What about how they sided with well known criminals to assassinate political leaders?

I'm not at all familiar with the former. The latter...are you talking about Han helping to blow up the death star? That's terrorism in only the most diluted sense of the word.

No the attacks on the Death stars were...unfortunate but not terrorism.
I'm talking about how the Rebel Scum(in the most annoying British accent ever) would carelessly blow up transports so close to civilians and then speed through crowded street blasting away at anything or anyone that got in their way.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

I'm not at all familiar with the former. The latter...are you talking about Han helping to blow up the death star? That's terrorism in only the most diluted sense of the word.

No the attacks on the Death stars were...unfortunate but not terrorism.
I'm talking about how the Rebel Scum(in the most annoying British accent ever) would carelessly blow up transports so close to civilians and then speed through crowded street blasting away at anything or anyone that got in their way.

I suppose this is some EU thing. Were the attacks targeted at civilians with the intent of spreading terror? Or were the civilians collateral damage?

[The Huskar Social Union]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

Both.

They often go hand in hand.

[Bearon Uncensored]

That brings up a brilliant question was was right the republic or the separatists?

The republic on one hand was a democracy yet the separatists we still democratic in a sense. They also did not allow a religious cult military power and while I have nothing against the Jedi they should not be leading troops. Also the republic was extremely corrupt and allowed corporations representation within the senate.

Personally while I like the republic the separatist were right in a way, the republic became the Empire and many separatist became rebels.

The Separatists. Systems with few resources and little power had no influence in the senate and were run roughshod by huge voting blocs. The Republic was corrupt to the point that it would commit genocide on sentient races on the word of other sentient races that provided more value to them ( Yam'rii vs Kaleesh ).

Many worlds and systems in the CIS joined because they didn't see a better alternative and who can blame them? Unfortunately, by the end, many of them were held hostage by Dooku's thugs and the Confederacy's armies.

[Bearon Uncensored]

So Question of the day.....are the rebels Terrorist or Freedom fighters?


Also which government was better at ruling the galaxy?

The Rebellion is an enormous galaxy spanning organization and have carried out attacks on civilian centers. So both.

The Empire was the best at ruling the galaxy from a pure organizational standpoint.