But It Was So Artistically Done: THE STAR WARS THREAD

[Dernland]

Heck the Old Republic had a military of its own, fleets, armies etc

Never got why the republic before the clone wars didnt have something similar. I get they relied on the jedi and stuff but come on, how many systems are there in the galaxy, never mind planets.

I always assumed that with no real opposition (the Empire Gone, the Hutts having no real fleets or conquering drive to speak of), that the Republic disbanded it's Military, but retained a sort of National Guard so to speak. Naboo, despite being quite pacifistic, has several squadrons of starfighters and a fairly well equipped military. Alderaan has its own small fleet and army. Mon Calamari has its own fleet (with capital ships) and army. Every planet or groups of planets had their own militia and defenses, making them more than capable of defeating any threats that they would expect. It's part of the reason that the Seps were such a threat. Many groups within, like the Trade Federation or Techno Union regularly produced and sold ships, equipment, and droids for other systems, so their having a lot of these things wasn't that strange.

A common misconception is that the Republic is a singular entity, but that is quite false. It's more like the EU, or perhaps a more decentralized version of the USA.

[The first Galactic Republic]

The weird part is that nobody thinks of conscripting a Republic army or building it from volunteers.
If the expensive clones drive the republic to bankruptcy, paying volunteers/conscripts can't be THAT much worse.
It would also solve part of the unemployement issues plagueing the republic
and the volunteers/conscripts are quicker to get combat ready than clones.

What I also don't get is WHY the republic orders more clones.
It takes 10 years to get them combat-ready.
The clone wars lasted 3 years.
Thus the clones should have been bred more than 7 years BEFORE the clone wars to see battle.
Thus the clones they're using are part of the original order OR the kaminoans made a massive surplus of the clones with the original batch.
Since clones are expensive (which was a real issue), why are the kaminoians willing to risk that much capital?

Was the republic planning on fighting the seperatist 10+ years?

There was conscription in the old EU.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Heck the Old Republic had a military of its own, fleets, armies etc

Never got why the republic before the clone wars didnt have something similar. I get they relied on the jedi and stuff but come on, how many systems are there in the galaxy, never mind planets.

I always assumed that with no real opposition (the Empire Gone, the Hutts having no real fleets or conquering drive to speak of), that the Republic disbanded it's Military, but retained a sort of National Guard so to speak. Naboo, despite being quite pacifistic, has several squadrons of starfighters and a fairly well equipped military. Alderaan has its own small fleet and army. Mon Calamari has its own fleet (with capital ships) and army. Every planet or groups of planets had their own militia and defenses, making them more than capable of defeating any threats that they would expect. It's part of the reason that the Seps were such a threat. Many groups within, like the Trade Federation or Techno Union regularly produced and sold ships, equipment, and droids for other systems, so their having a lot of these things wasn't that strange.

A common misconception is that the Republic is a singular entity, but that is quite false. It's more like the EU, or perhaps a more decentralized version of the USA.

Fair points

[Maichuko]

The campaign for Battlefront ea II actually looks good so far.

[Alekseandrea]

The campaign for Battlefront ea II actually looks good so far.

It does.
Crushing the rebellion has never looked as good.

[Alekseandrea]

Why the "mace is a black slaver" poll?

It isn't like black slavers were a historical curiosity.
Who do you think sold the slaves to the white guys in Africa?

Besides, calling Mace a "black" slaver is probably racist.
It would be better to simply call him "a slaver".

Not that I actually care, but some people do.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The campaign for Battlefront ea II actually looks good so far.

I saw the first hour of it from a stream, it looks alright so far, the AI is a bit not great but my main worry is how long the campaign is going to be. If people blow through it in like 5 hours im going to disappointed.

[Gibberan]

Why the "mace is a black slaver" poll?

It isn't like black slavers were a historical curiosity.
Who do you think sold the slaves to the white guys in Africa?

Besides, calling Mace a "black" slaver is probably racist.
It would be better to simply call him "a slaver".

Not that I actually care, but some people do.

Probably some sort of joke.

Which I don't get.

[Maichuko]

There's something really funny about Rebel troopers screaming in terror that a single Imperial commando has boarded their ship.
I just hope the main character doesn't end up defecting, but from what I can see of the cut scenes It might happen :|

[The first Galactic Republic]

There's something really funny about Rebel troopers screaming in terror that a single Imperial commando has boarded their ship.
I just hope the main character doesn't end up defecting, but from what I can see of the cut scenes It might happen :|

You know what would be hilarious? If Death Troopers fight alongside the main character in one level, and everyone considers them to be the best of the best, but they’re actually given insanely terrible AI.

[Salus Maior]

Why the "mace is a black slaver" poll?

It isn't like black slavers were a historical curiosity.
Who do you think sold the slaves to the white guys in Africa?

Besides, calling Mace a "black" slaver is probably racist.
It would be better to simply call him "a slaver".

Not that I actually care, but some people do.

....Mace Windu?

What?

[Ism]

Why the "mace is a black slaver" poll?

It isn't like black slavers were a historical curiosity.
Who do you think sold the slaves to the white guys in Africa?

Besides, calling Mace a "black" slaver is probably racist.
It would be better to simply call him "a slaver".

Not that I actually care, but some people do.

....Mace Windu?

What?

Windu is the Hanharr of Jedi. Everyone knows that.

[The first Galactic Republic]

....Mace Windu?

What?

Windu is the Hanharr of Jedi. Everyone knows that.

*Wookie roar*

Translation: I don’t remember asking you a goddamn thing.

[Maichuko]

I do not understand the poll. Is this some sort of obscure lore that his parents were slavers? or has Mace made some very questionable decisions while on Jedi missions? Are wookies involved?

[Salus Maior]

....Mace Windu?

What?

Windu is the Hanharr of Jedi. Everyone knows that.

I really don't get it.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Windu is the Hanharr of Jedi. Everyone knows that.

I really don't get it.

Ditto, like what?

[The Huskar Social Union]

http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy?cmp=smc%7C1147744441

Rian Johnson is to create an entire trilogy of Star Wars movies in the future.

[Saiwania]

Elliot Rodger's writings (finally listened to an audiobook of his manifesto) make me want to play some Star Wars games and be dark side to the fullest. He was the dark side, the force was so strong within him, he was pure Episode III. He let the hatred consume him and forever dominate his destiny.

[The first Galactic Republic]

Elliot Rodger's writings (finally listened to an audiobook of his manifesto) make me want to play some Star Wars games and be dark side to the fullest. He was the dark side, the force was so strong within him, he was pure Episode III. He let the hatred consume him and forever dominate his destiny.

It’s funny because le edge.

[Ism]

http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy?cmp=smc%7C1147744441

Rian Johnson is to create an entire trilogy of Star Wars movies in the future.

Oh my god, it’s so obvious now! The films will never end, they’ll keep coming, trilogy after trilogy, with only the standalone films as a buffer. We shall be faced with an infinite onslaught of Star Wars films. And who will create this infinite stream of movies? Disney. The same Disney that is currently creating movie called Infinity War. Do you know what this means? A Star Wars/MCU crossover has been confirmed.

[Gibberan]

http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy?cmp=smc%7C1147744441

Rian Johnson is to create an entire trilogy of Star Wars movies in the future.

I think it's a little preemptive for a new trilogy to be announced, considering we haven't even gotten the second film of the current trilogy yet. It was bound to happen at some point in the future with Disney, who has already said they'll keep making Star Wars movies as long as people want to see them, but still.

That being said, without even having seen Episode 8 I am confident Rian Johnson is the right man for the job.

[Alekseandrea]

I do not understand the poll. Is this some sort of obscure lore that his parents were slavers? or has Mace made some very questionable decisions while on Jedi missions? Are wookies involved?

The logic behind it is something like this:

Since, jedi are brainwashed from a young age to obey and respect the council it could be argued that they have no other choice than to follow whatever the jedi council does.
Since they aren't or are unable to make their own decisions, they obey the council, ergo they are slaves.
Mace Windu leads the council, thus he's the master slaver.


As you can see there are some generalisations and simplifications.
One could say they oversimplify the matter.

But, from a certain point of view, Mace is indeed a slaver.

And all the clones are basically slaves. That too.
Mace leads those too.

[Indo-Malaysia]

http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy?cmp=smc%7C1147744441

Rian Johnson is to create an entire trilogy of Star Wars movies in the future.

Great, Disneys milking the name now.
Way to ruin one if my favourite series.

Oh, and if you were expecting ---- Skywalker, they aren't in it. It's essentially an anthology film.

[Ism]

I do not understand the poll. Is this some sort of obscure lore that his parents were slavers? or has Mace made some very questionable decisions while on Jedi missions? Are wookies involved?

The logic behind it is something like this:

Since, jedi are brainwashed from a young age to obey and respect the council it could be argued that they have no other choice than to follow whatever the jedi council does.
Since they aren't or are unable to make their own decisions, they obey the council, ergo they are slaves.
Mace Windu leads the council, thus he's the master slaver.


As you can see there are some generalisations and simplifications.
One could say they oversimplify the matter.

But, from a certain point of view, Mace is indeed a slaver.

And all the clones are basically slaves. That too.
Mace leads those too.

Except that Jedi can leave the order at any time, at least once they reach adulthood. And many Jedi, at least in the old EU, showed unorthodox beliefs. Indeed, the nature of the Jedi as philosophers means that blind obedience is not something they would be taught. As for the clones, Mace didn't create the clones, nor decide to use them. That would be Palpatine/the Republic. They're the ones who used the clone army and put the Jedi in charge. Not to say the Jedi are blameless there, but they're very far from the slavemasters in this scenario.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy?cmp=smc%7C1147744441

Rian Johnson is to create an entire trilogy of Star Wars movies in the future.

Great, Disneys milking the name now.
Way to ruin one if my favourite series.

Oh, and if you were expecting ---- Skywalker, they aren't in it. It's essentially an anthology film.

Is that such a bad thing? Star Wars is a huge world; it hardly needs to follow the one family. Rogue One didn't, and that was an all right film.