But It Was So Artistically Done: THE STAR WARS THREAD

[Salus Maior]

The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

[-Ocelot-]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

This guy was definitely part of the old Empire. He is one of the few FO higher-ups who don't seem incompetent and new af. Hopfully Disney should make some sub-plot about how he survived the fall of the Empire and ended up in the FO.

[Genivaria]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

This guy was definitely part of the old Empire. He is one of the few FO higher-ups who don't seem incompetent and new af. Hopfully Disney should make some sub-plot about how he survived the fall of the Empire and ended up in the FO.

I seriously preferred the Imperial Remnant to this First Order embarrassment.

[Genivaria]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

When your superior actually falls for what amounts to a 'prank call' stalling tactic he should've just 'promoted' himself the Sith way right there.

[Salus Maior]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

When your superior actually falls for what amounts to a 'prank call' stalling tactic he should've just 'promoted' himself the Sith way right there.

Well, Hux wasn't exactly promoted because of his talent.

[Salus Maior]

This guy was definitely part of the old Empire. He is one of the few FO higher-ups who don't seem incompetent and new af. Hopfully Disney should make some sub-plot about how he survived the fall of the Empire and ended up in the FO.

I seriously preferred the Imperial Remnant to this First Order embarrassment.

Tbf to the First Order, they actually managed to destroy the New Republic, reduce the Resistance to basically a dozen people, and take control of the Galaxy in the power vacuum.

[Genivaria]

When your superior actually falls for what amounts to a 'prank call' stalling tactic he should've just 'promoted' himself the Sith way right there.

Well, Hux wasn't exactly promoted because of his talent.

Clear evidence that HIS superior needed to be replaced.

Snoke and Kylo Ren are clearly both idiots

[Salus Maior]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

This guy was definitely part of the old Empire. He is one of the few FO higher-ups who don't seem incompetent and new af. Hopfully Disney should make some sub-plot about how he survived the fall of the Empire and ended up in the FO.

Moden Canady: A Star Wars Story.

Edit: And according to the visual dictionary, he was a Commander of a Star Destroyer during the Galactic Civil War.

[Northern Davincia]

Daily reminder that the Separatists did nothing wrong.

[Salus Maior]

Daily reminder that the Separatists did nothing wrong.

Aside from simply being a tool never intended to win the war.

[Genivaria]

Daily reminder that the Separatists did nothing wrong.

Other than falling for Sith lies, just like the Republic.

[Pontous]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

He's actually my favourite character.

I RIPed pretty hard when he died in the first couple of minutes. I was hoping he would become a new side villain, due to being competent and genre-savvy.

[Salus Maior]

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The Supreme Leader we needed, but didn't deserve. RIP

He's actually my favourite character.

I RIPed pretty hard when he died in the first couple of minutes. I was hoping he would become a new side villain, due to being competent and genre-savvy.

>Bring him back as a cyborg.

If Phasma can come back (and I bet she will again), he can come back.

[Alekseandrea]

I seriously preferred the Imperial Remnant to this First Order embarrassment.

Tbf to the First Order, they actually managed to destroy the New Republic, reduce the Resistance to basically a dozen people, and take control of the Galaxy in the power vacuum.

They literally couldn’t have done that without Poe Dameron.

If that guy wasn’t insubordinate scum, the first order wouldn’t have destroyed so many transports.

If Poe had trusted his superior,
The resistance would have gotten a good chance of escaping with all transports intact, without having to defend against a ground assault. And Luke wouldn’t have had to sacrifice himself to buy time.

And the reason he isn’t executed on the spot or arrested: They “like” him.
Good thing that the rebellion maintains the time–honored traditions of nepotism.

Episode 8: Dameron ruins everything. And nobody calls him out on it.

[-Ocelot-]

This guy was definitely part of the old Empire. He is one of the few FO higher-ups who don't seem incompetent and new af. Hopfully Disney should make some sub-plot about how he survived the fall of the Empire and ended up in the FO.

I seriously preferred the Imperial Remnant to this First Order embarrassment.

A bit of an apples and oranges thing to be directly compared. The remnants were a true continuation of the Galactic Empire. The FO is a reformation of the Empire and proud of it. The Imperial remnants believed in the old Empire and wanted to restore it. The FO believed that they were a purer, stronger version of a failed organization and thus fundamentally different than their predecessors.

What makes the FO so bad imo is their ideology. They are reactionary military junta that wants to conquer an extremely diverse galaxy, where corporations reign supreme. The Galactic Empire controlled the galaxy because it was more than just a collection of frenzied military units, just like the Galactic Republic was more than clone armies. The FO doesn't want to be that.

[Bearon]

Merry Christmass all.

[Pilarcraft]

Daily reminder that the Separatists did nothing wrong.

well, it is true that they did have a point. ignoring the minor detail that they were controlled by the same guy who ran the republic and were nothing but a front, fact remains they were the absolute "good guys" in that war.

[Alekseandrea]

Merry Christmass all.

Don't you mean life day?

[Nocturnalis]

Sympathetic as they may be, the First Order is a poor-man's Empire. They fight the New Republic, which is commendable in itself, but they do so in a drastically un-Imperial way. They fight like Jedi, taking children from their homes and enslaving them to their will. Their now-destroyed superweapon, Starkiller Base, is ultimately a weapon of revenge and little more; it singlehandedly wiped out one of the most populous systems in the Galaxy, one filled with former Imperial citizens no doubt. The Emperor, on the other hand, sought a system whereby the galaxy would be governed at peace for an eternity, either via Tarkin's Doctrine or by directly attacking only military targets. The Death Star was fully intended to carry out this policy, of pacification through superior firepower, with the ultimate aim of preventing another galactic civil war. Existing in a galaxy full of enemies stronger than ever, the Order's early mistakes can be forgiven. However, they are surely aware of the legacy they must live to; the First Order must enact more stable, rational policies in the future to ensure that they can achieve the same democratic support that Emperor Palpatine enjoyed during his reign.

They literally couldn’t have done that without Poe Dameron.

If that guy wasn’t insubordinate scum, the first order wouldn’t have destroyed so many transports.

If Poe had trusted his superior,
The resistance would have gotten a good chance of escaping with all transports intact, without having to defend against a ground assault. And Luke wouldn’t have had to sacrifice himself to buy time.

And the reason he isn’t executed on the spot or arrested: They “like” him.
Good thing that the rebellion maintains the time–honored traditions of nepotism.

Episode 8: Dameron ruins everything. And nobody calls him out on it.

Holdo is singlehandedly responsible for all the Resistance lives lost. As the commanding officer for most of the film, it is her responsibility to not only command the ship and its crew, but to maintain the confidence of her crew. Instead, she just shows up out of nowhere looking like she's late to cocktail party instead of a Resistance leader and automatically expects everyone to follow her, a perfect example of piss-poor leadership that gets 90% of the remaining Resistance killed.

As commander, she has two duties: to have a plan and to keep the morale of her forces up. She ostensibly failed on both accounts; although she had a plan, she told basically no one beyond a select few about it, not even the leader of the Resistance's few remaining starfighter pilots. Without a plan, how can she expect the remaining Resistance forces to fight for her at all? Why should they fight for someone who's plan appears to be to just get everyone killed? The mutiny against her included pilots, troopers, and even command crew, so it's very clear that Holdo was incapable of maintaining the confidence of her forces. Poe's plan may have led to the First Order discovering the transports, but only because Holdo was an extremely poor leader (and because Finn picked up the wrong guy). Her refusal to let the rank soldiers know of her plan, regardless of how brilliant it was, is what causes most of the Resistance to perish. The best thing she does in the film is die to protect the remaining transports, and it took her forever to even figure out how to do that. If Holdo wasn't a complete idiot, the FO wouldn't have destroyed so many transports.

[Genivaria]

He's actually my favourite character.

I RIPed pretty hard when he died in the first couple of minutes. I was hoping he would become a new side villain, due to being competent and genre-savvy.

>Bring him back as a cyborg.

If Phasma can come back (and I bet she will again), he can come back.

When her helmet cracked I thought for a second I was looking at an angry Gwendoline Chris-OH SHIT THAT WAS HER.
EVIL BRIANE FROM GOT HOLY SHIT

[Genivaria]

I seriously preferred the Imperial Remnant to this First Order embarrassment.

A bit of an apples and oranges thing to be directly compared. The remnants were a true continuation of the Galactic Empire. The FO is a reformation of the Empire and proud of it. The Imperial remnants believed in the old Empire and wanted to restore it. The FO believed that they were a purer, stronger version of a failed organization and thus fundamentally different than their predecessors.

What makes the FO so bad imo is their ideology. They are reactionary military junta that wants to conquer an extremely diverse galaxy, where corporations reign supreme. The Galactic Empire controlled the galaxy because it was more than just a collection of frenzied military units, just like the Galactic Republic was more than clone armies. The FO doesn't want to be that.

The Fel Empire is the empire that the fans deserved and the galaxy needed.

[Salus Maior]

Sympathetic as they may be, the First Order is a poor-man's Empire. They fight the New Republic, which is commendable in itself, but they do so in a drastically un-Imperial way. They fight like Jedi, taking children from their homes and enslaving them to their will.

You realize that the Galactic Empire had millions if not billions of slave laborers, right?

What do you think built the Death Star?

[Genivaria]

Sympathetic as they may be, the First Order is a poor-man's Empire. They fight the New Republic, which is commendable in itself, but they do so in a drastically un-Imperial way. They fight like Jedi, taking children from their homes and enslaving them to their will.

You realize that the Galactic Empire had millions if not billions of slave laborers, right?

What do you think built the Death Star?

Apparently that fucked Vader up when he first learned of it.
https://imgur.com/a/1mAFM

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Sympathetic as they may be, the First Order is a poor-man's Empire. They fight the New Republic, which is commendable in itself, but they do so in a drastically un-Imperial way. They fight like Jedi, taking children from their homes and enslaving them to their will.

You realize that the Galactic Empire had millions if not billions of slave laborers, right?

What do you think built the Death Star?

If I had to guess I'd say droids and other machines, maintained by a relatively small number of engineers.

[Nocturnalis]

Sympathetic as they may be, the First Order is a poor-man's Empire. They fight the New Republic, which is commendable in itself, but they do so in a drastically un-Imperial way. They fight like Jedi, taking children from their homes and enslaving them to their will.

You realize that the Galactic Empire had millions if not billions of slave laborers, right?

What do you think built the Death Star?

Those that brought the galaxy to war, and those that seek to bring the galaxy to war, utterly deserve their circumstances. Far better for them to make a positive contribution of some kind to the galaxy rather than be free to bring chaos and violence wherever they go.

Taking children away from their homes, brainwashing them and pressing them as soldiers - what the Jedi did before and what the First Order does now - is wrong. Forcing separatists and rebels - people that voluntarily engage in violent, anti-galactic activities - to contribute to the galaxy is not; they chose their fate, and must suffer the consequences for their lack of vision.